Conflict in tarsus

Well, the first force to retreat and end the conflict is normally the side that lost.

Sometimes people think that the side with more kills win, as if it was an ASF vs CSF battle, or if they are 8 vs 4 they have a sure win, but that's false.

The force that stands last, wins, unless it's a draw and both sides agree to go sleep or something.

The reason to fight each other lies somehow in the nature of having guns on your ship - for some it's more interesting to fight a human player than a dumb npc.

Also, the ones complaining at this forum here, in multiple threads, lost hard - but they own this place, so they use it for themselves to look better after a lost battle. They don't understand that they are playing a game, feeling themselves personally hurt, instead of trying to become better. I never saw that much swearing on a freelancer server while playing but it's kinda funny to see those guys starting to boil because of lost battle on a gameserver. Most active Freelancer players all around the world are veterans now, ever tried to play the first unreal tournament which also still have active multiplayer servers? It's magic to see how people are fighting if they know perfectly how a game is working. It's the same with freelancer - if you saw everything game related, the fights are what keeps you busy and interested, not all but some.

There was another battle in o3 yesterday, much harder for one side, but no complaining.

Make your own thoughts, including the /frags command. Some people simply wants to fight others that's what you experienced yesterday.

V.

Just saw your answer Michael - you are from the ones owning the forum, are you?

Thelo: The pirates don't have a clue about rp. In their minds, rp consists of getting into fights with police, no more no less. They don't join forces with smugglers and do smuggling / profit runs, they don't tax traders in other system or try to actually use their imagination. This a good reason why RP suffers so much. Also some of those pirates are from previous clans on CF seeking revenge instead of ...again... employing some imagination.

Let's review the current version of pirates RP:
1. Stay in Arena until police are in X... then come out to fight.
2. Stay in Arena until police are in Custodian or Tarsus... then invade
3. Stay in Arena until police gather in a certain system... then fight (provided the system is close to X so they don't have to go far. )

As you see it's very limited and one dimensional in thought

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The reason to fight each other lies somehow in the nature of having guns on your ship - for some it's more interesting to fight a human player than a dumb npc.

Also, the ones complaining at this forum here, in multiple threads, lost hard - but they own this place, so they use it for themselves to look better after a lost battle. They don't understand that they are playing a game, feeling themselves personally hurt, instead of trying to become better. I never saw that much swearing on a freelancer server while playing but it's kinda funny to see those guys starting to boil because of lost battle on a gameserver. Most active Freelancer players all around the world are veterans now, ever tried to play the first unreal tournament which also still have active multiplayer servers? It's magic to see how people are fighting if they know perfectly how a game is working. It's the same with freelancer - if you saw everything game related, the fights are what keeps you busy and interested, not all but some.

There was another battle in o3 yesterday, much harder for one side, but no complaining.

V.

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1. It's widely known that some participants in these fights use "enhanced" features to play or should I say, cause themselves to lag. ( Not pointing at you) It amazes many of us how 2 specific pilots can have a clean / perfect connection, yet still warp 2 to 3 k away from the fight ( everyone see's it ) , shields reload on an instant ( as witnessed in O3 ) and some other things such as guns that never miss. That's what you hear people complaining about.

2. O3 invasion was OORP, as the Pirate RP does not permit pirates to openly shoot Mercenaries or invade their home system just to fight. Mercs are bound by engagement rules for a reason and matter of fact, so are all RP's. Police and Pirates are the only two that can open fire at will.

A few years back a funny thing happened.....I stopped caring what guy was from what previous clan and why he always seemed to hunting me down. Oddly enough.....I started having more fun and trying to do my pirate RP the best way I saw fit and had fun doing it. There were times that that meant ignoring a lot of players that "hang around" arena or some other system for example. Over time I noticed that it was probably better (for me at least) to try and make RP with new players as there is always new players and try and show them the brighter side of CF. TBH, I kinda felt like I was the only person sometimes trying to show the new players the RP of CF.

Really, I have no dog in this fight so to speak, and see where things could be better. But, seeing all these current threads (I think this post applies to many more post than one) I really believe that people forget that.......get in the damn cockpit, follow the server rules, and let the guns do the talking.

my 2 cents for this and other posts.....good voyages all

Marauder

PS, SBC is very behind i taxes and I will have to order my fleet (lol) to start collecting!

Edit , for item 1 above...I think there is a thing called the ticket system? item 2 should be handled by the merc clan.....and show why the pirates need to think twice before OORP actions

Avarice
Let me introduce a few facts to you.

I own this place, the server and the mod.
After your first post on this forum I can already tell that I dont like you. Starting the first post pointing with your finger on people... showing pure arrogance and making judgements based on wrong assumptions... all that is not the best way to introduce yourself to the oldest of the Freelancer communities.

Now that this was said... welcome to the community, who ever you are.

Avarice: welcome ... your style of expression and used avatar reminds me one concrete player which was active here more as year ago and had nice RP disputes with SA Arrow ... but maybe it is only coincidence.

hehe now this is prooving my above post, ist it?

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Avarice: welcome ... your style of expression and used avatar reminds me one concrete player which was active here more as year ago and had nice RP disputes with SA Arrow ... but maybe it is only coincidence.

@Forlon Would be cool to meet that guy - and thanks for the welcome.

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Avarice
Let me introduce a few facts to you.

I own this place, the server and the mod.
After your first post on this forum I can already tell that I dont like you. Starting the first post pointing with your finger on people... showing pure arrogance and making judgements based on wrong assumptions... all that is not the best way to introduce yourself to the oldest of the Freelancer communities.

Now that this was said... welcome to the community, who ever you are.

SWAT
I feel introduced now.

Congratulations to all of your achievements, beyond your claim it don't looks the way you express it.
After your first answer to me i can't tell that i don't like you but you are on a good way to even your own impression to my imagination. I may had my first post which is ofc. far away from 26688 current posts of your profile but at least you will not find any direct pointing on people but a summary of experiences while playing a few days on that server. Wrong assumptions needs having no base or experiences which, i can assure, is not the case. Using a judgement (a positive and a negative one) always contains a chance in one or an other direction, especially in a stuck situation, as you may have heard of. Introducing myself wasn't the intention behind my post, as a tip: probably i would have taken an other avatar if so.

If you are reading between the lines of the thread starters post you may also have notice an open question telling a different meaning about the addressed topic itself - with all of the posts in your background i am sure you just oversaw it.

Having said this, thanks for the welcome, even though it was obviously not meant that way.

To answer your last request, in the spirit of my chosen Avatar: "Who? Who is but the form following the function of what and what I am is a man in a mask."

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The reason to fight each other lies somehow in the nature of having guns on your ship - for some it's more interesting to fight a human player than a dumb npc.

Also, the ones complaining at this forum here, in multiple threads, lost hard - but they own this place, so they use it for themselves to look better after a lost battle. They don't understand that they are playing a game, feeling themselves personally hurt, instead of trying to become better. I never saw that much swearing on a freelancer server while playing but it's kinda funny to see those guys starting to boil because of lost battle on a gameserver. Most active Freelancer players all around the world are veterans now, ever tried to play the first unreal tournament which also still have active multiplayer servers? It's magic to see how people are fighting if they know perfectly how a game is working. It's the same with freelancer - if you saw everything game related, the fights are what keeps you busy and interested, not all but some.

There was another battle in o3 yesterday, much harder for one side, but no complaining.

V.

1. It's widely known that some participants in these fights use "enhanced" features to play or should I say, cause themselves to lag. ( Not pointing at you) It amazes many of us how 2 specific pilots can have a clean / perfect connection, yet still warp 2 to 3 k away from the fight ( everyone see's it ) , shields reload on an instant ( as witnessed in O3 ) and some other things such as guns that never miss. That's what you hear people complaining about.

2. O3 invasion was OORP, as the Pirate RP does not permit pirates to openly shoot Mercenaries or invade their home system just to fight. Mercs are bound by engagement rules for a reason and matter of fact, so are all RP's. Police and Pirates are the only two that can open fire at will.

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I would not like to know more about these "enhanced" features you are talking about - also if they are widely known in your world, it is so much known, that you are allowed to use these kinds of intimations in an open forum - putting it on everyone with a special license equipped - which is buy able on every house planet on your server. Probably you should write a book about your investigations - preferably keep using the various system channels as your personal scratchpad while others are trying to play a game, irritated from all the writings of your characters. If you may think it could be in any form formative or interesting to anyone with an intelligence grade above the one of a chimpanzee i can assure you it is not. However - this is not meant to be offensive to you in any kind but informative.

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Thelo: The pirates don't have a clue about rp. In their minds, rp consists of getting into fights with police, no more no less. They don't join forces with smugglers and do smuggling / profit runs, they don't tax traders in other system or try to actually use their imagination. This a good reason why RP suffers so much. Also some of those pirates are from previous clans on CF seeking revenge instead of ...again... employing some imagination.

Let's review the current version of pirates RP:
1. Stay in Arena until police are in X... then come out to fight.
2. Stay in Arena until police are in Custodian or Tarsus... then invade
3. Stay in Arena until police gather in a certain system... then fight (provided the system is close to X so they don't have to go far. )

As you see it's very limited and one dimensional in thought

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After all these arrogance i wonder that i have to agree you in one point: "it's very limited and one dimensional in thought" ...but a good way to keep new forum/server users away from buying a pirate license so they are not (b)(tr)ashed - if used constantly you should be able to rule over the different rp's, in just interpreting things to your need, or putting rumors around - did you ever tried that and was it working?

V.

did you ever try not to write bullshit?
really, you should try that

you seem to be here just to cause trouble to the players of this server and people which do that wont stay for long

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I don't want to appear slow but , Where does the colflict or war between police and pirates end or determine an outcome. I watched G1.5 kill Blackbeard several times, and blackbeard kill junkyard several times and junkyard kill visunder several times and visunder kill ridge several times and ridge kill asmodeus several times...on and on and on it could go. Im not trying to insult anyone or be funny. but it did get kind of monotinus (repetive). I watched for only about 30 minutes but found myself asking "so how does one side win lose or draw over the other? couldn't find anything in similar threads bu maybe I just missed it . Thanks for not thinking im trying to be a smartass here. Im really interested in the way it works

Hey m8, you forgot me... I am gonna to flutterrage RIGHT NOW...

Wait, since when this thread of a player making a question turned over to an... well... conflict of ideas ?

Ah right, welcome Avarice.

I really think the question was about how battles are counted as won, not what players did wrong in the past, who complains and who fails, or mentioning names in this group of people who fail. Even your statement of needing to have guns on your ship is false since lately there were events like the SA managed run of a capital ship to a certain planet, where ones had to defend it, and ones to stop it. Or a possible daily job for mercenaries of escorting transports / trains, where the train doesn't have guns but can still win if he arrives with the goods at the destination, and earn enough money to pay the mercs and make himself rich. And there's the entire smuggler RP who can be in this run for your money cases.

That you read threads from before is, good for your knowledge, but without leaving behind the conflicts, the players here would always be in more than conflicts of ideas, and it's not what we need. Here, we try to keep the "action" in a different way than "fights" where a side boils up. There are as always, some exceptions to it...

Actually, if there will be a OoRP clan war within ALL server, nobody will win this war. As Mike once said, clan war involves EVERYTHING to take out the opponents. Cheating, clantags-covering, provoking freelancers, etc etc. Three scenarios:
1)Massive bans from Admin. It can affect even whole clans.
2)Driving people off from server -> server is dead.
3)Worst one: OP begins to think that its not fun anymore and turns the server off. FOREVER.

I don't want to see it. I got used to this server, and to you.

Ppl, you mix here few things together ... so, be so kind please and leave this thread be for a while.

When you want talk about one concrete thing, then start new thread. Mixing more things in one thread is the best way for misunderstandings.

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That already happend and it's still going on for a long time. Why do you think that these undercover ' ehnanced ' pirates are after the cops and are attacking only us ? Without even doing any actual pirate RP and so on? Some of them are just seeking revenge for some childish reason and all of them who are seeking vengeance are just waiting for us to show up. They are just trying to kick us off , every cop out here , especially the CFPD. I am not going into more details , but most of you know why.

That is even worse. However, Forlon wanted me to stop.

This thread is " FUBAR "

Just play the game as it was intended to be played.
Be grateful that this MOD STILL exists.
Other's are closing down due to simular reason's, don't let it be us next.

It's just a bit of fun. Enjoy it !! as i do.

Rgds

Cygna

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