Battleship Discussion

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  • so as i've been on the server the past few days, i've only used my Inquistor dreadnought. it seems a few people have gotten irritated at it and one person had said "It's become a lot like Discovery because there are so many battleships"


    granted that i know how to use one, that doesn't mean i can't be beaten. just because i got you blown up 6 times in a row doesn't mean you have to get upset at it. i know PLENTY of people who have destroyed me before i'ved obliterated them. it's a matter of skill. some have it, some dont


    what i want to know is what people have against capital ships. i'm not too good in a fighter so i alternatively play in a battleship (that and i have slight Napoleon Complex) regardless i'll fly my Cayman occasionally to get better at it.


    so, what does the CF community have to say against capital ships. saying it's an unfair advantage isn't really reason because can't lag be used as an advantage as well?

  • It's just because some people come with a Battleship against a single fighter and when they kill him, they say something like " hahaha, you're such a noob " and that sort of things. Some people just aren't adapted against such a class and therefore it's an unfair fight. Imagine yourself in the RL ... in space(for example we are in the 22nd century) , will you be able to destroy a WHOLE Battleship with a fighter? -> Of course not , 1 shot and you're dead. In CF are just 2-3 shots and boom, you're dead.


    Not to mention that the best Battleships have 900k armor with the armor upgrade and it will take you ages for you to destroy the BS and it would take just 2-3 shots for the BS to destroy you. I have nothing against Battleships though , I even like them , but I hate when some guy thinks that he's too " tough " with it and after that saying that you're a noob and that sort of things. With other words, it's an unfair fight (Fighter against a Battleship).


    The Battleships are mainly used in a massive fight( group of fighters and Battleships against another group of those). That's the best fun ever and not just a single Battleship against a single fighter. It's just unfair and pathetic(to most of the people).

  • What kind of complains those ppl have ?


    Everyone not only agreed, but wanted such capital ships. And they are not overpowered at all, as a fighter got great chances to destroy a BS, cap ship projectiles(bullets) make a lot of damage but are slow, and the BS is slow as well.


    And a multitude of options is better than being limited to fighters.


    So whoever cries about BSes, ignore the cries and do as you wish (keep killing them or get past them). Don't make their complains bigger than they are, by making such thread ;)

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  • They're killable, best when swarmed; 2 or more cause a mean crossfire for fighters...

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  • My pov: highly depends who is on both sides in ship cockpit. PPl playing for fun engage BS bcs simply want give a try and they know that they have a chance. And mainly, if lose say gf and the same from BS pilot side. Everyone can bring in second try his BS or any other BS killer. The same apply for battles (ofc there is more fun if not used torps and kill both sides ;) ). Both sides can bring or hire their BS (and also piloting bs need skills). Those ships are nice, big and can be used as command platform or tactical advantage etc. So complain about BS usage is imo nonsense ...


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  • all totally understandable. it should be easier to kill me since the cursor's i have get lost in the background of space and i have no clue where my guns are going.


    i for one don't "say i'm better than you" in a gloat-ful mode. in fact i'll tell people "2 or 3 people go!" because there isn't a point 1 BS vs 1 VHF


    i had to tell one guy who decided to use the Reinland cruisers main gun shot me and spend about 10 rounds missing. i'm not sure if i felt sorry for the guy or i wanted to troll him and say "aim a little more up" and when they started hitting i said "there ya go! your just a bad shot. and proceeded to fire some torps at him


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    i've seen people use a flurry of missiles and somehow they take a large chunk out of the shields. in some case draining them all


    on a different subject now


    what's your favorite capital ship? mine is the Inquisitor Dreadnought

  • What are you all discussing battleships applying only to pvp? These reasons have no influence on adding/removing BSs from the game because pvp is not the main activity on the server. Forget about it, and you will have plenty of reasons to have battleships:

    • they bring more variety to IC hunting, allowing to have some rest from that merry-go-round you have in a VHF
    • you can do missions faster (because of reaching waypoints faster) and collect more escape pods at once
    • you can simply slaughter tons of NPCs for their escape pods
    • you can collect Altair wrecks faster
    • you can kill DK Motherships in Hyperspace faster
    • you can take missions against Coalition Rogues on a BS <---- fun + adrenaline
    • together with VHF escort you can kill Nomad BSs in any numbers
    • ...

    I personally see no problems with battleships. :)


    P.S. I like Inquisitor too.

  • I am one of those guys that does try to attack a Battleship for the fun and challenge.....it definately helps to have another pilot or 2 for me to have a chance....but it's always fun anyways. Only one problem that I see in the battleships is the ability that it fires guns "through" itself. Once I undocked and a battleship was blocking exit...I sat there and carefully scanned visually and with subtargeting...there was no weaps in my field of fire, yet 2 shoots (coming through) the ship and boom...I'm dead.


    All in all its still fun to try and take them down sometimes 8).

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  • thus it is necessary to mod the players-battleships in this way that no other ship can fly "through" the battleship, causing it to spin around like hell...
    this issue is really annoying and frustrating, also while fighting NPC... a grp of 4-5 strong npc could deal with a BS which is not quite appropriate.
    I mean other BS from NPC does not have this issue either, so why the BS from players?

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  • good point lonewolf ... take away the battle ship spinning ... and the tipping ... up collision damage for fighters so thay go pop when thay ram a bs .. :D

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  • impossible
    the fl engine does not allow anything better than the current behaviour

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  • hmmm... ok

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