Inner Core help

There are 18 replies in this Thread. The last Post () by LordRaydenMK.

    Hello Fellow Pilots!


    So, I have reached IC and Dom'Kavash space with 'average' difficulty flying VHF Chimera with added armor class 4 and decent weaponry.


    SPOILERS AHEAD


    My question is; how to improve my reputation with Dom'Kavash?


    After reaching Dom'Kavash space in IC I realized that I can't proceed on Chapter 9, mission 33 - "Device", as my reputation with Dom'Kavash is -3,5 (negative, should be max -3 negative to be able to purchase anything from Dom'K) and I can't buy the crystal I should get from Crallard system - 'Smonkves Breeder' equipment dealer.. I thought this should be simple to fix (as long as I can stay alive haha!) by shooting down some of the factions warring with Dom'K in the IC. But but, after managing to put down 5-6 wings of Razaks, Warriors and Savages (and I do find this pretty challenging, if there are 1+ gunships or bombers in the wing I'm dead a lot of the time..) I was pretty mind-boggled to find out my reputation with Dom'K still being exactly the same; -3,5. I checked earlier save games to confirm and yes, the reputation is the same -3,5 all the way from the beginning of my IC endeavours..


    So am I really missing smth here or just being generally retarded? :threeeyes::ahahaha: Or can this be some sort of error/bug?


    Any help or tips are appreciated, thank you all who are contributing to this game/community!

    Edited once, last by (IOC)Wanderer: smileys fixed! ().

    actually, your reputation should be neutral at this point


    you can improve your reputation with the kavash by killing ancient drones in the dervon system

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    Thank you Swat_OP R8R :salutes


    You're right, correction my reputation with Dom'Kavash is neutral (they are not hostile to me) - but on negative side just enough for me not being able to purchase anything from em'.


    Off to Dervon then, I assumed the IC factions warring with Dom'K would be counted as their 'enemies' and so improve my rep among the Dom'K but apparently this is not the case.


    And thanks again for the Crossfire game!

    np


    the reputation with the Kavash will become better later

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    Only dead fish swim with the stream.
    Don't discuss with idiots. They only drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience there.


    This is ten percent luck,
    Twenty percent skill,
    Fifteen percent concentrated power of will,
    Five percent pleasure,
    Fifty percent pain,
    And a hundred percent reason to remember the name!

    Yeap only DK ... but be careful when killing the Ancients ... some time there is a player named Ancient too in that Dervon space ... just be careful with him though ... he dont like players to kill his brothers ....

    Interesting, I never heard of this issue before. How many drones did you kill in the Dervon mission? If you had shot a lot of DK on your altair trip, you need to kill some extra. When I get ordered to retreat from Dervon, I just keep shooting drones on the way out and my DK rep will be fine. Shooting aliens will help your DK rep, BUT, only at a very slow rate. Don't bother with aliens, reloading your savegame before Dervon is faster.

    @Apache, Thanks mate - In the original mission to Dervon (Missions 29-30 I think..?) I merked 5-6 Ancients as far as I remember. I did shoot down some Dom'K before that in Altair as I had cpl of Dom'K Annihilators already in weapon arsenal at this point.


    You suggest reloading back to the orginal Dervon mission (first contact with the Ancient drones), do you think it's possible the reputation is somehow 'locked' with Dom'K after I have already started the IC missions (particularly missions 33-34 as is the case with my current save game)? See my following post for more info.


    Thanks for the input!

    Hi Everyone,


    Referring to my earlier talks with Swat_OP R8R, I left IC (inner core) as suggested and made my way to Dervon for blasting some Ancients to improve my rep with DK (Dom'Kavash). It seems something is out of place as after shooting down ~20 Ancient drones my rep with DK has not improved at all.


    Following is a quite a rant, I appreciate anyone who has the interest and patience to read the whole story :applaus:


    I'll try and give summarized details of my CF journey in the following for someone wiser than me to be able o point out what could be wrong:


    1. I play CF 2.0 SP campaign with "ENB Standard" shader option, install file downloaded from Swat Portal, all the latest updates installed. Since starting the campaign I have not changed any general gameplay options and played with 'Average' difficulty level all the way.


    2. During the campaign I have not visited any of the new CF systems until they have been revealed to me in the SP campaign (e.g. new systems conneccted to X-3043).


    3. Here's my journey in nutshell after first arriving to the GMG hypergate in Omega 3 system (mission 31-32?) : I declined to go to IC (and start the mission)the first time I arrived to Omega 3 hypergate as I wanted to explore Altair sector more prior to IC missions. So I went to Sol -> Styx (got Nomad action I was unable to avoid, this perhaps had negative effect to my DK rep) -> Mandar -> did pretty extensive Altair/Coalition systems exploration (did not shoot any DK during this time) -> returned to Sirius -> Utopia -> Dervon for 2nd meeting with Ancients (shot down a few drones but again couldn't avoid Nomad action in Utopia..) -> finally back to Omega 3 hypergate -> through IC systems in order of the mission waypoints laid out (shoot down some Dom'N, Dom'R, Warriors and Savages) -> started missions 33 & 34 with the DK -> got stuck with mission 34 'Device' coz of the rep with DK -> tried to kill some of the other 'Aliens' to improve DK rep -> Got feedback from Swat Portal to shoot Ancients to improve DK rep -> Left IC via Phanchdar hypergate -> through Altair to Yakutsk and via dimensional anomaly to 'Unknown" (had to shoot some Nomads again - DK rep suffered a bit) and Omicron Gamma -> to X-3043 via Omicron Alpha.
    At this point (after reaching X-3043) I realized that oddly factions that I have maxed out negative rep with (CSF, Outcasts, GC etc.) appeared 'neutral' in my ship scanner/radar and did not become hostile to me unless I attacked them. I then went to Dervon to shoot down the Ancients and the drones also show up 'neutral' in my scanner even my rep with Ancients is almost maxed out negative (-9). As mentioned before, after merking about 20 Ancient drones my rep with DK is unchanged. :vinsent:


    As you probably understand, I'm reluctant to reload back to original 'Dervon mission' as there is pretty extensive gameplay between that mission and my current savegame. :pfeifen:


    So Dear seasoned vets and CF gurus & anyone who might be able to share tips. help or ideas for solutions, your feedback is most welcome. :thankyou:


    May the Force be with ya'll!


    [edit:system name X-3043 corrected]

    Edited once, last by cauac9 ().

    hi, I played SP Campaign many times and imo what you describes can have only 2 reasons (or mix): 1) you messed somewhere along way campaign script, 2) mod is improperly installed/activated. CF is out quite allot of time, with many thousand of downloads, but your issue is unique. This is also reason why is hard help you. Normally is DK rep maintained by campaign script. That's not in your case and it have only above mentioned reasons. CF scripts are quite robust (to allow some freedom for players), but if you try push hard on 'limits' it will broke.


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    And I forget one thing, did you used anytime "autosave"? If yes, then it is very likely reason for your problem. Alas autosaves are source of different issues and there is not any way what we can do someting with them. Do not use them is only one assured solution.

    Thank you Martind Forlon:thankyou:
    By "messing with the campaign script", do you mean e.g. what I described in my point 3.above - Initializing a mission but then declining to actually start it and going for 'free exploration' somewhere else than the mission points to?


    If that's what you mean, I have certainly done it. The reason for this is that I didn't want any 'sneak peeks' / spoilers on what is to come in the campaign. In other words I did not want to know what's coming and thus could only make the decisions on my next moves after seeing in gameplay where the next mission asks me to go.


    For the CF mod installation - I followed the instructions from Swat Portal, activated only the CF 2.0 mod and let the activation finish without tampering with anything else in the meanwhile. I have not encountered any other odd issues than this during the SP campaign play. Although there's something I forgot to mention before; The "Mission 13 :Toledo" savegame suddenly appeared into my savegame list after the Mission 29 and Mission 33. I mean there were duplicates of this mission 13 savegame in the list of all available savegames that were 'dated' after the aforementioned missions 29 && 33. That was weird but seemingly did not affect anything..


    "did you used anytime "autosave"?


    Yes I did, after entering IC and being unable to make a manual savegame (prior to finding my way to DK systems) I used autosave many times when battling against Savages, Warriors and other Dom -races as I was blown to pieces more than once or twice.


    Now that I know to avoid using "autosave", I certainly will.


    Thanks again for shedding light into this issue Forlon! :salutes

    Edited 3 times, last by cauac9 ().

    I believe that if you use pauses in campaign (i.e. Order HQ in Sol, GMG_Research F. in Omega-3) you can comfortably explore and buy ships/equipment like you need/want it. But combine this with autosave usage, and you are doomed. OP looked few times on these saves and if I remember well what was said, it was something like that they are full of random garbage which shouldn't be there at all.

    autosaves for some reason store all mission triggers of a mission even if those are not active or called yet


    and that causes a mess when you load autosaves during the crossfire campaign.
    In vanilla FL this also happened but after every mission the developers managed to reset the triggers which is not possible for us to do without having the source code of the game.

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    Don't discuss with idiots. They only drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience there.


    This is ten percent luck,
    Twenty percent skill,
    Fifteen percent concentrated power of will,
    Five percent pleasure,
    Fifty percent pain,
    And a hundred percent reason to remember the name!

    Thank you for clarifying this Martind Forlon & SWAT_OP-R8R. :thumbup:


    It sure makes sense now. Great to know so I can ensure/plan to avoid autosave usage. And I believe I've found a good spot in my CF journey to continue from too hehe :musik:

    I can not help you avoiding bugs, however Martind Forlon and SWAT_OP_R8R have given you good advice on how to avoid them. Here's some tip on avoiding combat: when you see hostiles incoming on your scanner, try not to engage but run away from them. As soon as a disruptor hits you, go to manual/free flight, kill your engines, burst away from them on your thruster, then float, turn around and point your guns at them (you should be flying backwards at this point) This makes them slow down and you win some space. If you lose too much speed, turn away from them, burst thruster and repeat.
    When they are far enough away, you can try to continue cruising to your destination (and do not rely on autopilot, it is the worst pilot on the server :D)
    That way, you can avoid having to shoot nomads, and you have less chance of getting shot down in Inner core. Hope this helps and happy flying :)

    Thanks Apache!


    By the time I reached Inner Core the first time, I had figured out this (that I call..haha) T.E.R (Thruster - Engine kill - Reverse) technique to get away from unwanted/too tough opponents. Perhaps it's my Viking blood that makes me enjoy a full blast crazy-ass combat havoc in the outer (or inner) rims of space and I couldn't resist the temptation to test myself against these pretty challenging (for me) new opponents, hence the need for the extensive autosave use in IC.


    Now that I'm wiser I'll take a different approach (at least until I have a solid manual savegame :D ). Just as a side note my DK rep is maxed out positive already lol. :sehrgut:

    About surviving Inner Core, there is a different way to survive, and that is to Hunt them down ^^ Note: This is really hard to do and it requires a lot of time and patience and skill.


    Step One: Use your strafing. In your control settings, you should find some buttons that say
    STRAFE LEFT: A
    STRAFE RIGHT: D


    Strafe Up:
    Strafe Down:


    Change Strafe Up to W and Strafe down to S. Now if you keep doing this, you should be able to strafe in a circle. If you can time it right, the enemy projectile's should just fly past you.


    Step Two: Try do this while going on and off on your thrusters. This can be hard hitting these keys and using Tab, so it requires practise, but not too much practise :)


    Step Three: Try it! Start trying to hunt the Inner Core Dom's. Note, sometimes if they fire, and wipe out your shields, it might be wise to fly out of their range, but still on your scanners, then wait for your shield to regenerate, then go back in and attack!


    Optional: Sometimes doing the strafing trick and the Reverse Thrust (X) can work well against the IC Dom's.


    Hth

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