Using two PCs for play CF

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Good idea, can be realized in less than half an hour ;D

It can't stop me >:-D
But I stop myself as I don't log into 2 accs at once, except when using my stores for safe transfers within Tarsus.

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OP, Huor and the other ppl who developed Crossfire have gone to *great* lengths to make the mod a level playing field for everyone. It's safe to assume that everyone who plays here has a PC [even a crappy one] that is capable of playing Crossfire. However, not everyone has the financial resources to afford 2 PC's or an uber PC that can run 2 instances of Crossfire. Just because you can doesn't necessarily mean you should. Is it fair to those plugging away on one PC when there are people abusing the system of multiple logins to get ahead? Even if you're just mapping or whatever, the point is not everyone is capable of doing what some of these guys are doing. Is it fair to the players who can't, or don't? No, it isn't.

If it is, let it be known that I'm a retired PC techie [which most of you guys know] and I could probably frankenstein together 5 PC's that can run Crossfire whith my current inventory of spare parts. Would that be fair? Would it be ok for me to log in with 5 accounts? One mapping, one fighting and 3 trains in formation doing trade runs? This is something I could easily do but the question is: Is it something I should do? No...not fair to the players who can't.

Go ahead is anyone stopping you? just do it and run 5 PCs lol I don't think anyone really minds except you and maybe a few other people. But as far as I'm concerned it is not a rule, and it isn't affecting anyone on the server so it is legal. If you think it is illigal and want me to stop there is a hand dandy ticketsystem you can use so imho this thread is useless, and I will continue to use this technique until told otherwise.

Well, although it has always been forbidden to have multiple chars online at the same time as it causes a multitude of issues, mostly related to RP. If you have two chars online, one camped in a system ( not mapping) and docked in another ( chatting on TS instead or talking from planetside) then you are not doing the server any good imo.

But since my opinion and the historical content of CF doesn't matter anymore, I am going to "join the crowd".

Here is a link to a virtual machine software if you don't have it: Download Center for VMware Datacenter and Desktop Products

I have one of my machines with 4 of them running, so I guess CFPD will grow in clan size really quick. It will be up to my opponents to guess which ship I may or may not be in. Let me know how frustrating it gets when you are trying to hunt my bounty or do rp when I'm not there.

Adios

G

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and it isn't affecting anyone on the server so it is legal.

It isn't affecting anyone ?
But wether it affects somebody or not, it can be both illegal or legal.

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Well, although it has always been forbidden to have multiple chars online at the same time as it causes a multitude of issues, mostly related to RP. If you have two chars online, one camped in a system ( not mapping) and docked in another ( chatting on TS instead or talking from planetside) then you are not doing the server any good imo.

But since my opinion and the historical content of CF doesn't matter anymore, I am going to "join the crowd".

Here is a link to a virtual machine software if you don't have it: Download Center for VMware Datacenter and Desktop Products

I have one of my machines with 4 of them running, so I guess CFPD will grow in clan size really quick. It will be up to my opponents to guess which ship I may or may not be in. Let me know how frustrating it gets when you are trying to hunt my bounty or do rp when I'm not there.

Adios

G

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Woot! Go ahead no ones stopping ya...... Btw it wasn't docked it was mapping -_____________________________-

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It isn't affecting anyone ?
But wether it affects somebody or not, it can be both illegal or legal.

True, but until a rule gets struck down, its legal.... I think....

50Pack: If you do a forum search you will find many posts over the years forbidding this sort of action. Even to the point, when most of us, including Op thought it was a great idea to limit people to only one or two ships to add more realism to the game.

Someone discovered America when found out he can logg 2 different accnts from 2 different PCs (Doah) so what? who cares to burn their brains out using 2 computers for a mere trade on where they'll make 30 kk credits once or one who decides to have 2 ships in different locations to proove he's almighty and king of FL, go ahead and do it, so much telenoveladrama for something won't ever be fixed, depends on ppl minds not of server rulles, you think all cares what right and wrong? like one who said he had a contract to hit me in X (no name giving) and i should have believe him?? since when someone can say he's under contract just cus he can say it? same stuff with 2 PCs and crowd trolling around about it, worthless!! play the game and live with it!

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Cheating is defined as manipulating the game to gain an unfair advantage over other players. This includes the use of map bugs and exploits, scripts and macros.

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Do not deliberately interfere in the running of servers in anyway that degrade performance or causes the server to crash. Slow connections to the server also affect the server. Players are responsible to ensure that there connection is adequate. The server availability and your connection quality to the server can be monitored with the /ping command. Downloading while playing is the most common cause of bad connections and so is not allowed.

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Idling for long periods of time is highly inconsiderate and prevents other players from joining the server. We reserve the right to kick players out the game if we recognize a player idling.

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If using 2 PCs is somehow an unfair advantage to other people than I will stop using it from not on Maybe its a good idea to update the rules just in case someone else has the same question......

Two PCs isn´t fair. One player, one PC. Different is, for example if i want somethiong from char 1 to char 2 and use two computers for changing, only for trade between my chars, is it better then flying with two chars for trade routes, i think.

Same as using batts/botts...

Using 2 PCs or such, is not directly/totally forbidden, but that doesn't mean you can use it at your free will, carelessly. Somebody can use it from time to time, like when moving stuff from stores, or to give yourself equipment from the stores to a fighter (as Am-Sher said), and even a bit of double trading here and there... but abusing it will provoke an action against you, and no one will defend you.

Michael - no exceptions is easier to handle. Isnt it - isnt it your job as GR to take care of it as well.... BTW i confirm Gunny's statement. It has always been forbidden. Period. Dunno why there must be any discussion about it.

The discussion is, because it is not clear where it tells this is forbidden.

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Cheating is defined as manipulating the game to gain an unfair advantage over other players.

You don't manipulate the game when you have 2 PCs...

It is obviously an unfair advantage, but if this wasn't a topic to discuss in years... people ask about it again.

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The rule is already there, and has been made quite clear: Doing *anything* that gives you an advantage over the other players is against the rules. Period. No exceptions. I've marked this thread as done.

Good job detective! Sheesh would ya calm down lol..... That rule is vary vague because its about perspective, I mean in my opinion (IN MY OPINION DON'T START FLAMING ME) it isn't an unfair, I only got my laptop a year ago, and the 2 years before that I've seen people before, and I didn't feel let down, sad, or anything, but again this is my opinion, no need to start pointing fingers............. again -_-. And *I* apologize if anyone got *upset* at my actions.

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Hey 50Pack it is not about you it is about general gaming. Also this is nice discusion or nice bump

Cya in space m8s!

True that's why I said it was vauge there is a large variety of gamers, thus this rule should be more... explanatory if it is possible