New clan in town

Do what you find suits most, but dont cry for imbalance and outnumbering later on. It was a nicely meant recommendation. What you do with it is yours or your clans decision.
Just saying - has nothing to do with skills and who can loose better. Its something about ensuring the fun for everyone - more than just one event long!

Welcome and good luck.
Have lots of fun

DC and PX (both ASF before) changed sides to balance a vice versa situation where the ASF was outnumbering the CSF 5/1 and therfor won every single battle - with the help of DC the RP Situation ASF=Cops CSF=Pirates was broken and brought a better Gameplay to the Server.

The Players of the ASF then decided to activly increase their No. as it was planned with the new Clans but don´t trained their pilots any longer while starting to lose Battles. In spite of what was mentioned above the CSF was (and is btw.) still outnumbered by the ASF. I once had a good laugh when the brave ASF Forces claimed to be outskilled instead after it by their famous Leadership.

Since BG is still BG, Husker, i am wondering that you didn´t get these informations - as you also did not got the Situation that DC and PX was ASF over Years, DC made the ASF Medals and descriptions PX sponsored the old ASF Forum and made nearly all Organisations attack-, defence- and setup plans. Admins of the old boards was Haegar and me.

Considering that some Clans are putting their Flags in the wind where it is coming from is activly misinterpreting a given situation where Clans decided to change something for the good of the whole Server.

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Welcome and thanks for your application to the CSF Master and Synergy, considering joining the CSF as a Clan will make it neccessary to talk to the CSF Command first.

Given the fact that you talked to Gunny as the ASF Commander you probably made a step in the wrong direction because in Battles you will most likely hear the incomming missile warning tone coming from missiles this guy was shooting at you while most likely missiles from the direction of your team CSF will not make this warning tone. We just mention this for you to know that the ASF Commander might not be the best refference for applying to the CSF.

Joining the CSF is not a must but a can as long as a Server Clan Status is not obtained - ofc. Freelancers with at least 100 hours of Server time, exceptions will be done for important matters, will be considered for a CSF Membership.

Please contact our Recruiting Office soon.

In your Application we expect a reason for leaving the ASF and joining the CSF as a Merc Clan with deep contacts to the ASF. The Decision will be made by the CSF Clan Leaders and/or their representatives in a given time frame after your application was revised.

Don´t take this as a yes or no please

Crossfire
CSF Command

Definition :

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syn·er·gy
n. pl. syn·er·gies
1. The interaction of two or more agents or forces so that their combined effect is greater than the sum of their individual effects.
2. Cooperative interaction among groups, especially among the acquired subsidiaries or merged parts of a corporation, that creates an enhanced combined effect.

No hard feelings but this looks like the ASF : unite to succeed ! I will also throw once again a big LOL to the CSF who have made up a "UNITED" group of independantists... One day, you'll be fighting your own "alliance"/federation. Sorry i cannot help making fun of the CSF

I see here big possibilities for "flame" ... so I please all sides to stay on topic. Different view to ASF/CSF last battles can be solved best in future with next fights. Take this as my polite warning that your post will be edited or removed if you will ignore this info.

Arrow:

A group is always united more not less. Thats the big advantage of forming groups. We are both fighting in groups (ASF and CSF). Thats what their names are standing for. We just fight with different objections

Yes, I wonder why Huor wanted them in ASF but well, me and DW told the status, for ASF clans inter clan relations are going on in a normal way.

Daywalker, remember to not put personal info on 'official' stuff, only ones based on facts like the one where ASF still outnumbers CSF now, when only 1 CSF clan has more members than the entire ASF, based on counting members on Swat

Huor, yes,it's noticeable now, different objectives using the same procedures

If everyone would have read the first post. then ppl should see already, that it has been gone off topic already.

This was simple an announcement for a new clan, establishing on the server.
Nothing about ASF/CSF outnumber who has more who has disadvantage now and such.
If there are topics which needed to be discussed, I would recommend, to use the right forum for it,
OR
talk to that persons (who are directly involved) via PM

btw. isnt it the players (clan's) decission, what faction he wants to fight for?
I never saw someone who HAD to fight for this or this side. it was always the decission, or agreement from the player or clan, wasnt it?

if thats the case, why is here some questioning why did you choose that and not the other??
I mean. he might have his reasons. so like others had, to pick their role. (meaning ASF/CSF)

If one faction gets outnumbered, they might have to think about what they could change, to be MORE attractive for the people to fight for. Doesnt it sound plausible?
If a faction is still outnumbered and don't want to change their ideas what they are fighting for, then they would simply need to get better in skills, so they wont have to worry about being less fighters on the battlefield then the other partie

Or, since it is a political war, the outnumbered could just change their strategy, like in the real politics (marketing is everything) if you are able to sell what you are standing for, people will still go with YOU and not with the others.
make people buy your ideas so they will join you. and there is NO discussion about the whole thing needed at all.

just my 2 cents.

First off, I don't see any flames brewing here, so lets quit the Mod paranoia please.

Second, Master and I had a good and straight forward conversation about their decision to leave the ASF and join the CSF. I dont agree with his reasons, but it is their right to apply to the CSF and I told him I would make a good recommendation on their behalf.

I wished them well and so should all of you.

A clan can inquiry his idea to join a specific side - but fianlly that was more or less chosen by OP or the ASF/CSF leaders. Otherwise we would meanwhile have 10 clans fighting for the one side and nearly no one fighting for the other side. And i barely believe that a new clan is interested to join this then constructed looser position at all.

I dont think its that much offtopic. Its about a new clan which gets introduced here. And ASF/CSF explanation as well as given back ground information is not that much offtopic if you ask me.

remove the "flame" part and i'm in !

good more csf comrads

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remove the "flame" part and i'm in !

It´s ok, just leave yours and Michaels posting parts where they are - the CSF will have np with it Arrow. If Master will see it the other way around it´s his part to ask for it but thanks for the self reflection anyway (click).

@DW ... Remember that it was just a status reminder on my post, and I agreed and had nothing against Master or anyone here about their decision, if it disliked you that somebody dared to correct you, it doesn't mean it's flaming. So be reasonable before acusing.

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Nice, it´s still running.

that "click" sound you keep making is the reset button of your memory ? to forget what we said ?

STFU

organize ASF/CSF event

fuck it out

and see who has the better strategies and skills

now GTFO and l2play