I attempted tonight to bring a final and permanent end to this ongoing dispute present at this discussion where OP wavey RG hawk and myself unfortuantly this discusion broke down with OP ranting about principles the principles that have helped drag all of us to a precipice of destruction the agreement was simple I stop my spam and flames and server invasions and OP drop his vendetta against R-39 and Ronin would drop all thier greveinces against OP this multilateral agreement would effectivly end this sorry affair and the issue of blame or who did which shit first was not relevant for this to able to work. But unfortunatly Op was having none of this and stated several times he inteneds to carry on this feud.
But still in the interests of the greater good considering epsechily that OP has now taken this dispute to LR and began posting his claims and accusations there now to this shit needs to end therefore both PiA and R-39 will cease our activitys and lets hope OP follows suit as this will only resurface somewhere down the line he he carried on
This is the last best hope for peace (excuse the B5 quote :D) please OP do not throw it away
for the communitys perusal i include the log of this meeting
Wavey says:
k
Wavey says:
op u here?
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
i am
Wavey says:
right
Wavey says:
ds?
Energiser Bunny says:
ok OP lets set aside the rights and wrongs and who did what shit first
Energiser Bunny says:
this needs to stop before CF and FL in general suffer
Energiser Bunny says:
i have a soloution to this problem
Energiser Bunny says:
a permanent one
Energiser Bunny says:
I will stop the spam and flames on the CF forum
Energiser Bunny says:
i will monitor PiA and keep them well away from CF
Energiser Bunny says:
and then you need to let this R-39 drop so then they have no exucse to continue
Energiser Bunny says:
but we ALL need to work at this
Energiser Bunny says:
its no good us saying it stops here then in 2 months i spam again
Energiser Bunny says:
or R-39 invades
Energiser Bunny says:
or you start R-39 threads
Energiser Bunny says:
we all have to drop our grudges and walk away
Energiser Bunny says:
thats the only thing that can end this
Energiser Bunny says:
i have hawk here on msn and she agrees to
Energiser Bunny says:
if u are ok with it i can invite her and u can hear it from her
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
im not ok with that
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
im not ok with all that has been said here
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
you must think im plain stupid
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
Energiser Bunny says:
then im truely sorry for both u and the the other players
Energiser Bunny says:
but a storm is coming
Gunny says:
Dont come back
Energiser Bunny says:
and CF will not survive it
Gunny says:
yes it will
Energiser Bunny says:
you dont get it
Energiser Bunny says:
what i think of u has nothing to do with this
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
i have no reason to trust you or mhawk
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
you both did lie in the worst way ive ever seen
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
you attacked my friends
Energiser Bunny says:
why do u think i wan this to stop?
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
you threatened them
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
you broke serverrules
Energiser Bunny says:
and you have made threats to me
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
and now you ask me not to tell the truth?
Energiser Bunny says:
and sorry but your server rules are a moot point now
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
you ask me to lie about r39 while i know and can prove that this did exactly happen in the way i said?
Energiser Bunny says:
if this doesnt stop there will be no server to have rules for
Energiser Bunny says:
and no LR no NQ
Energiser Bunny says:
this is where we stand
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
no this is where you stand
Energiser Bunny says:
im not asking you to lie about anything
Energiser Bunny says:
just let it go
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
i stand here reading a chatlog which was made just 1 hour ago telling me the opposite of what you want to sell to me now?
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
no sry
Energiser Bunny says:
while we all sit here nursing old rancours
Energiser Bunny says:
we are doomed to see this over and over again
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
i did let it go for about half a year with the result that r39 did what they wanted to do
Energiser Bunny says:
and where has it gotten you?
Energiser Bunny says:
you are no further forward
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
i will not deny the truth
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
and that is what you ask me to do
Energiser Bunny says:
im not asking you to deny it
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
you ask me to close my eyes and to shut up
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
and that is something i will not do
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
yes you do
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
you tell me to forget about all this
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
ive done this once and found myself with a knife in the back
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
im not going to do that again
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
and if you have nothing better to do than to start trouble with my community without any reason... well i cant hold you back
Energiser Bunny says:
Op you know as well as I do the results this will have
Energiser Bunny says:
are u going to doom 2 servers and several clans
Energiser Bunny says:
over a principle
Energiser Bunny says:
that only 3 ppl care about?
Energiser Bunny says:
RG is here will u speak to him? can i invite RG?
Energiser Bunny says:
RG knows me better than anyone on FL
Energiser Bunny says:
and he knows im geniune about wanting to end this
Bob has been added to the conversation.
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
my principles did lead me where i am
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
and im not going to break with them
Bob says:
hello m8
Wavey says:
hi RG
Bob says:
Hello Wavey, hello OP, hello DS
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
hi
Bob says:
m8 OP, may I speak freely as usual?
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
RG - i am asked here to "forget" about everything
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
forget all the lies
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
all the troubles
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
and to deny the truth
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
im asked to shut up and as soon more shit happens i am the one who breaks such an agreement
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
so you may talk freely
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
but i will never give up my principles
Bob says:
I understand your trouble m8, but you havent been asked anything different from what i asked them to do. Listen m8s but I consider both of you friends.
Bob says:
I need to say this both of you
Bob says:
first, DS andnyone anywhere i go could tell you that Im always stand for you because i consider you my friend. And you could said the same from our talks about what i stand for DS and other cause i do consider them my friends too
Bob says:
I know some people may said you can not be good with the devil and and God at the same time
Bob says:
But neither of you are the devil or God ..you are people and you are my firends and I have been in this road before. But this is not about me that I have been in a pretty deep shit with my family matters..this is about both of you m8s.
Bob says:
You were friends once, you worked pretty close toguther eventhough you havent met in person, you stablished a bond wheter you like it or not
Bob says:
Yes, it got personal but sometimes you have to think for the greater Good...the Greater Good here is not either OP nor DS, the greater Good here are friends and community. How do you think i feel when i heard both side complainning. I pretty straight shoot, I told both sides you are talking about my friend and I always have hope my friends could understand each other again
Bob says:
Your war (both of you) do affect your people around you. Some people would agreed with OP and some people would agreed with DS..but this got so far that it wont help the community that i do care for cause I did take time (NOT MUCH AS YOU OP, Im clear about that) I just one of many person that trying to help in CF
Bob says:
There is just an easy step here..I ve been telling yo since this started it..TURN THE PAGE cause sorryly I consider both of you good people with his own TEMPER
Bob says:
but you are my freind and indeed hurts deeply to see that in the forum..to see brother (you were brother once) to turns against each other. If this happen to me in real life with my sister, imagine you as friend
Bob says:
friends
Bob says:
Guys, starting over is not bad m8, it help to heal, turning the pages is not bad...if any of you were listing to the claim of turning this page, thi wouldnt happen
Bob says:
Im not one to tell you anything, neither to OP neither to DS, because both you are growing up people that make their own desicion and then stand for their consequences
Bob says:
but this is not about any of you anymore, it is about people who care to either of you
Energiser Bunny says:
If the consequnces where only for me and OP i would accept them
Bob says:
about the community
Bob says:
yes, but they are not only for you
Energiser Bunny says:
but I am not willing to tear a huge hole in the FL community
Energiser Bunny says:
this could possible affect hundreds of players
Energiser Bunny says:
and god knows how many servers
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
you already did - any u knew that its not just between me and you
Energiser Bunny says:
i didnt think it would end up being dragged all over LR
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
and u know that i will never agree something if that means to deny everything i believe in
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
you are not my friends
Energiser Bunny says:
im not suggesting anyone deny anything
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
rg is right - a few months back i would have done nearly everything for you in the same way i still do for those i still call my friends
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
but you messed up
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
you did lie to me
Energiser Bunny says:
so did u
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
you threatened me
Bob says:
that is my point, it is between both of you and has affected everyones around
Energiser Bunny says:
you threatend me
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
you threatend my friends
Energiser Bunny says:
u threatend NQ
Bob says:
guys we are goin backwards
Bob says:
guys we are goin backwards
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
no rg
Energiser Bunny says:
we have all made threats
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
we were didnt even did one step
Energiser Bunny says:
and said stuff
Energiser Bunny says:
no u are not willing to OP
Bob says:
sorry OP but when people listen is always 1 step forward
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
i dont believe DS or anyone in pia
Energiser Bunny says:
i came to try to settle this
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
i dont belive r39
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
and i see no reason for an agreement that is based on nothing
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
yes you came to settle this
Energiser Bunny says:
but you seem intent on keeping it going
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
and 1 hour before you came to destroy CF
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
your own words
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
Energiser Bunny says:
then im truely sorry for both u and the the other players
Energiser Bunny says:
but a storm is coming
Gunny says:
Dont come back
Energiser Bunny says:
and CF will not survive it
Gunny says:
yes it will
Energiser Bunny says:
you dont get it
Bob says:
Ok, lets do this, I give you my WORD to each side..if this fail you could condem me drag me and put in hell
Energiser Bunny says:
yes and this is why i want to stop this OP
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
RG - i considere you as friend and you being here is not right
Bob says:
yes, I give my word for OP and my word for DS cause I do consider you guys decent person
Energiser Bunny says:
things will be set in motion by this bickering
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
and its not right that im here to discuss about something that never will happen
Energiser Bunny says:
and they will not be able to be stopped
Energiser Bunny says:
this is the last chance we all have OP dont waste this please I beg you
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
you had your last chance 2 weeks back
Energiser Bunny says:
for all of CFs sake for LRs sake for everyones sake
Bob says:
it can happen OP, you need a word, take mine..cause i consider both your word enough for to put my hands on fire for each of you
Energiser Bunny says:
this isnt my chance OP
Energiser Bunny says:
its all our chances
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
not at this price
Energiser Bunny says:
there is no price
Energiser Bunny says:
all you have to do is shut up
Energiser Bunny says:
and i have to shut up
Energiser Bunny says:
and R-39 have to shut up
Energiser Bunny says:
thats it
Wavey says:
silence
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
i did shut up about the r39 issue for a very long time just to see it escalating
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
i will never do the same mistake again
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
i will not shut up
Bob says:
it is not about shot up..it is about turning the page
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
i will say the truth about everything where ever and whenever i feel like it
Energiser Bunny says:
so will i
Energiser Bunny says:
i have my damn truths
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
ive seen too many lies and provocations
Energiser Bunny says:
R-39 have damn truths
Bob says:
Guys,
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
and i dont trust you
Energiser Bunny says:
we all have stupid childish proofs and truths
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
and i will never trust you again
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
and this is no base for any agreement
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
and im not here to discuss about this any longer
Bob says:
Guys please, I just want to say smoething more and I leave
Energiser Bunny says:
and while we run around clutching our stupid logs and screen shots
Energiser Bunny says:
ppl suffer
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
you guys may that what you want about me... but i wont give up my principles
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
and you wont make me shut up about the truth
Energiser Bunny says:
neither will I
Energiser Bunny says:
neither will R-39
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
the agreement is just a farce - forcing me to stop something that i havent started
Bob says:
ok guys, may i say something before I leave
Energiser Bunny says:
and we can all stand in the ashes after
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** says:
i will leave now - so bye
Energiser Bunny says:
and congratulate ourselves that we told the truth
SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** has left the conversation.
Wavey says:
oh well
Energiser Bunny says:
i tried guys i really did
