My feedback

Spiky....... just give the info already. Otherwise we will have to spread rumors that {LP}50 pack is your "girlie - man".

The expanding any community to other games is usually hard. From my experience, it's hard to organize cooperative games expecially with more than 3-4 ppl.

I'm suggest to create the topic where people will post most active and lovely games with possible network. It could simplify a bit to find common tastes.

OP i can make css SWAT Portal clan (btw that group in steam i made wen you join you can put SWAT portal tag in the game)

for all with original steam see

SWAT_OP-R8R:
Just don't give up. Life would be boring without challenges

I`ve seen just Mich on GR around past few weeks - noone else when I`m online. So, newcomers seems bored to read the server rules, system rules and learn CF. My duty last time is explaining them what is RP, and other rules. Ppl sometimes deaf and won`t to hear anything.
With all rules- breaches I suggest to part play-time within GR to cover min. 12h. First time 9:00-12:00 . poor for RP, but rich for small incidents with new players. Most active server-load time is 17:00-23:00.

Is it Maxbur. Between 17:00 - 23:00 is propaby max load time. As well as, i could help as well, if is need.

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Is it Maxbur. Between 17:00 - 23:00 is propaby max load time. As well as, i could help as well, if is need.

Thx, but I`ve asked for rest of active GR help. I couldn`t take it alone.

I know, what you mean. It was my response for actvie GR. Bu question is, what you imaginate active? Half day, two hours per day?

that is not the topic to talk about whom GR is when active. It was about OPs feedback.

interesting feedback. I am a bit suprised that some important people avoid discuss your feedback by turning this thread to another direction

My 2 cents

@OP

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So which conflicts am I talking about? (I am just summing up the past weeks)
- BLK_OPs vs all cop clans -> and all cops against Black ops ... since the time they rent frankfurt at the end of 1.8
- Certain tries of players to invade other clans always happened to all clans...
- Massive abuse of the merc RP which has lead to some kind of harassment against Cop clans (at least I would call it that way if one clan puts 168 bounties on the cops on this server in just 2 weeks; private bounties not even included) yes thats correct, also happens often put bountys on players to keep mercs outta sight
- PX vs. DSC (which does not seem to be over yet as i have heard)its been a few weeks i saw a DSC entering alaska... as long DSC stays outta alaska there is no problem
- PX vs. BG (as still oorp attacks get initiated)this one already discussed internaly...
- and of course the conflict between Abras and Michael (here on the forum) lol

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Such incidents are not only about the involved players/clans... they have direct influence on the server and in the end on this community. So it does not surprise that the server ranking of CF decreased during the past weeks.
If you want to damage this server and the community then you are on the right way.

It is also inacceptable when clans cause damage to other RP types by constantly targeting players with opposite licenses.
Roleplay lives only when being balanced... everyone who is trying to break this balance will cause the RP to collapse.
Once that happens you have damaged your own clan, all other clans, the server and this community.
That of course only if you would care.

Action- reaction . And imo "there is too many alliances" between clans. most of the clans interfere with other clans businesses. many years of personal issues unfinished.

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Ive been told that there are clans that tell their members to stay away from SWAT. I have to ask myself what the reasons behind such statements are and if such clans are actually still interested in this place or if they are just using it for their personal benefit.

Yes. and everyone knows that. And its sad to say people usually comes here only to ask (or cry). It also explain why i didnt see anyone quote what you said

all the rest i tottaly agree and share your point of view

@DSC
i dont waste my few time chasing you... if you keep away from alaska.
Cro not all clans have all menbers super fighters. we have menbers that like to explore, or try new ships, or kill npcs. its easy to attack new members... but not that easy to kill the vets right?

@Dev Team
Btw thanks for the Dev team for the latest anti-cheat update. Everytime you guys make un update we see people leaving CF. Wonder why

About new games, I think Swat need someting to attract players from other games to come and stay here. For example the games i like to play are not the same that other player likes. Like spiky mentioned the games OP is playing are not the same spiky likes to play.
What made clanbase being so famous over the last years? it created tournaments, hosted several games conpetitions, created prizes, made some clans professionals, had huge marketing and sponsers etc etc. Thats not easy for sure, but would be a good start if swat can support clans in other games. A big step was enable people to create clans foruns inside swat.. Now we need to bring clans and games to swat

My biggest complaint is the people who tend to camp out trade lanes, docking rings and mooring fixtures to try and shoot and kill people. That is because for the people coming out of them cant auto fight back right away, which gives the person camping them a distinctive unfair advantage.

If other games are being played by members of this community then we should know which those are and on what platform.
People need to say what they want and what they are interested for instead of waiting until its somehow finished or started.

The forum is probably not inviting enough - but well thats something we can internally discuss in the Staff board. Eventually starting meetings again can also be something to get "closer" and things done. Dunno but less or no communication wont help at all, in opposite too much too.

Are there any games more modern than freelancer that would be able to be hosted at SWAT?

I think Huor has good points. I do see what OP is saying and agree with alot. I would like to see huge numbers of players at SWAT....no matter the game. Question then is is SWAT like Steam or something?

To be fair I don't want certain people of this community to be ANYWHERE NEAR my and several other people's (including SWAT veterans from a distant age most of today's members have never even heard about) project to be a part of.

Furthermore, where is the incentive to pursue certain interests in connection with this Portal? I always wholeheartedly had an interest in the growth of this community; respectively to certain limitations.

Please bear in mind that this does not necessarily reflect my point of view but merely suggests an hypothetical behaviour of this community where people simply don't see an interest to stick with the portal. There are and have always been a negative tendency to 'look down' on newcomers, which is in my opinion a huge problem. This prevents growth for this community and when you analyze it carefully you will see that, eventhough the portal reflects growing numbers of visitors, it does not mean that we realistically acquire new community members. Why is that? Partially due to an elitist behaviour of FL veterans and a general neglection to help newcomers. Of course you might argue that we answer all their question they direct to us on this portal; but sometimes we do it with such an arrogant attitude that newcomers simply feel intimidated and end up leaving this community all together -- because they feel that they do not fit in.

Freelancer has such a scarce amount of players that it is difficult to really please all their wishes, we are a very tight network of people and each of us has very specific goals and interests (I think this would not be so much of a problem if tens of thousands of people would still play FL... but hat is just an assertion based on personal experience).

I am of the opinion that we as a community have reached an impass where we are blocking ourselves to evolve into something greater. A way to surmount this problem for us is to expand this community to different games... And this brings me to my first point again. Why would I want to have my friends or my clan associated with SWAT?

For me it's quite a difficult question to answer because like I mentioned I have a big project going on for a very hyped game (and undoubtedly game of the year potential) and I feel that if certain people of this community would get close that project they might damage it too much... this may sound very stupid but I believe that this is a valid argument.

Anyway my point is if you really want SWAT to expand to different games you need to be able to answer that question. I think the problem does not lie within CF but within the reluctancy of this community to work together and to achieve more. But even then I don't mean to work with 'everyone' together per se. You need to do it with people that you trust, people that you like and can work with. It's really not helpful to always point out the problems and to try to come to an agreement; some people just hate each other and you will not be able to change anything about it. Spend your energy with people that you can work it.

Like eventhough there are obvious problems between BG and PX; BG could expand to a different game while PX does the same with a completely different game. And that creates two completely new sections for this portal and ultimately would attract new people and I am even optimistic that problems between certain parties would eventually automatically disappear because the focus would be on completely different games.

[ks]A serious post from spiky? Really? [/ks]

You bring up a valid point though. I am wary of encouraging people to come here, because I don't want them seeing the drama and shit that goes on here, and see it scare them off.