Warrants

StephanoV · Dec 16th 2010

I am opening this thread after Shock warned to close the one in the RP section. I think that warrants need to be discussed a little more because it's a new concept that's appeared now for the first time (at least I've seen it for the first time and I didn't see anything in the RP rules about it). I find it to be a very good idea but it still needs some polishing because otherwise it would unbalance the RPs.

SA Arrow wrote in the RP thread:

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1- warrant is issued on PX. for 24 hours (if you wish to be hunted for a week its you choice but i prefer 24hours because its a first offense). As we've explained earlier, SA's PoV is that PX have broken the rule not to shoot ppl in our home system. That make its a crime in the laws of Oemga-3. And i gave choice : 30M (original fine) +20M (late fee) or arrest/kill.

2- They will be publicly announced but i only trust cops not to abuse the right given by this warrant to kill you within the rules boundaries (prevent abuse). And about not mixing RPs, PX should look at themselves cause lately they have been more smugglers and pirates than anything else... And no, having a monopoly doesnt justify the BMG trade it is still smuggling and no, a contract doesnt justify to avoid the law in clan's system if that system clearly says "no attacking".

3- You mean that BG/CFPD/SA/DC/UR are not allied one with the other ??? hmm.. last time i check we were all side by side and all liked in a way or another together....

And this warrant offer is in itself an alternative RP option to declaring a total war. It is good RP with no RL connectio nor risk of escalation (its max 24 hours) and its been a while since any warrant has been released so it will be cool to see how it turns out...

let's play the game Stephanov and stop these Spoiler/Off-topic talks...

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1. it is your right to ask for whatever you want and to enforce law in your system as you wish, we respect that (even if we don't agree to that).

2. we too hope that abuse will not happen.
about the mixing of RPs, we have several "screenie albums" (not screenies, but albums of screenies) that immortalised some precious moments during which cops were smuggling and believe me, there are many, many many many screens because everybody is smuggling (be it SA, CFPD, UR) but most of them are with SA and UR. Don't thow that rock at us because it will bounce back and hit you in the head. Sure, we smuggled too (given the fact that everybody does it and if you don't you risk falling behind) but we are not cops so our RP is not in direct contradiction with our actions when yours is.
As for the pirate accusations, please go to http://www.crossfire.swat-portal.com/index.php?c=3 and read the "Open RP", "Monopoly" section. This way you will be better informed before you start accusing. In the future, please save us all some trouble and read the rules first, accuse later (you know, like "shoot first, think later", but the opposite).

3. I know that SA and CFPD are (OmG) BFF and probably UR wants to hold Gunnys' other hand but I wouldn't go that far as to say you were "an alliance". You are, on the other hand, a good follower of orders and that is a good atribute.

This warrant as it is, is not in itself another alternative to declaring war on PX (remember remember when you declared our monopoly as your own and instead of going to war we even made you discounts when letting you smuggle it -with this occasion, please take another look at paragraph no. 2-..) but an alternative to "mask" the war so that you'd get all benefits (attack us, "teach us a lesson", etc etc) but not the costs.

->>> I am trying to work with you and make this "Warrant" concept something that will enrich all RP (not just your own) while giving you more power and legitimacy in exchange for responsability and common sense.

As I've said, in order for this warrant concept to work, it has to have legitimacy. Without it it's just another "clan war". So, the arrest warrants need to be public so that everyone can see them (before they come in effect -even if it's 1 minute before) AND need to have a legitimate RP reason backed by proof (screens).
Furthermore so that we totally separate any clan war from the "Warrant" concept, which is a totally neutral one (hey, a cop is just doing his/her job) warrants need to be issued to individuals not entire clans at a time (because that would be a war). Of course, IF in a certain timeframe alot of members of a clan (let's say more than 50%) get warants issued on them, then the clan may be declared as "lawless" and a general warrant (which could be longer than one week) could be issued on its members (warrant that gives a choice -fine, -jail, -or kos (RP kos) ). but for each warrant there would have to be -public posting of warrant, -legitimate rp reason BACKED by -proof. That's it, you receive but you also have to give back.

Gunny · Dec 16th 2010

Arrest Warrants are nothing new, they were introduced 2 years ago by CFPD leadership. Most players here spent too much time crying about the enhanced RP instead of having fun with it hence the reason you may not have heard about them.

You commented to the effect that the warrants could be used as a clandestine way of war on PX, while I dont believe that is true from my position, what's the difference Steph? When PX blatanly enters SA territory and fires on SA without their consent? That IS and act of war and always has been, regardless of which clan you belong to. PX used it's charter as the "reason" and the "right" for that action in O3. PX has also engaged "contracts" in other systems owned by other clans. While I am not advised on your deals with other clans, I am willing to bet at least one of them doesn't permit such action and quite frankly, never has.

Now to assume UR and SA hold my hand is childish on your part. You can quit the jabs and insults to SA , UR and others you may have a problem with or attempting to incite resentment. It's not a secret that PX targets anything and everything that I am involved in and it's not a secret that I am going to make your life as difficult as possible while I am online ( take a screenie for your albums) , but it would be well advised to not use me or my associations with SA or UR as a means to throw stones at them. PX caused this issue with SA due to the actions of PX, not only in O3 but in other scenarios which have been documented in this forum in a number of places. As you say, keep it RP.

Warrants are simple: One kill and the warrant is served. Public announcement of the warrant is mandatory prior to the attempted arrest.

Spiky- · Dec 16th 2010

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warrants need to be issued to individuals not entire clans at a time

Agreed. However, for this to work properly the identity of the individual must not be masked by similar nickname's between the clans - I am assuming that a warrant encompasses ALL characters of that individual.

You know what I am referring to. If that warrant is issued on one of your Members and that individual switches between, let's say his 'Knight_XI' and 'Knight_VII' chars and there are one or two chars more with a similar nickname 'Knight_IX' and 'Knigt_VI' then this will confuse the person going after that warrant. It is not our duty to know which one really is behind the 'Knight' char, and it is certainly not our duty to constantly look in which system that individual just switched to - this is, as far as I know, not included within the police RP (also bear in mind that not everyone is familiar with Roman numbers). This defeats the purpose to act 'within the scope of RP' as this, quite on the contrary, would disturb the flow of action and frustrate the people involved. Obviously, this does not include nicknames that are completely different from each other; for e.g. Shockwave switches to another char called 'Trollwave' (^_^) or whatever other nick... we can quickly learn who that person is and it would not confuse us (at least a 'reasonable person' with common sense would)

I also agree on the 'general warrant' idea... which would negate what I mentioned above, yet the threshold of more than 50% will take a while to get to (unless people get very 'warrant' happy)

Also the 'we name ourselves 'Knights' because it reflects our clan policy and this is an internal matter that does not concern you' is not a legit stance to take here. As I stated above, it would eventually disrupt a proper functioning of the 'warrant' concept which is supposed to allow for a wider application of RP (and not make it worse - people crying and whining around all the time)

(on a side note @PX - out of this context - I though it was made clear to your clan that this whole 'Knight' thing was supposed to stop once 1.8 comes out? Feel free to send me a PM to explain to me why you continue to do so)

other than that... I agree with StepahnoV... mostly ;D

... im just procrastinating in the library btw

back to studying

Griffin · Dec 16th 2010

I think it would be a good idea for balance that non cop clans can apply for a warrant on someone due to illegal activities. It would need proof though.

Daywalker · Dec 16th 2010

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you Gunny should stop to constantly focus always those Clans which are from your PoV the strongest, badest, biggest or whatever you may think. Instead of wasting your energy in creating these kind of "RP" you should start to rebuild your Clan. This is permanently ongoing since 2005 as far as i remember - not everything initiated by you ofc.. This is also weakening CF again and again. When you will just one time go and read all the old shit threads (which are already in this forum) you will see that many complete Clans was driven away from CF and therefor a high no. of players - some of these Clans are still playing FL btw. but not at CF. I never saw a server before with so many Clans vanishing for stupid reasons because some wanted to play just by their own rules or was on permanent pixel based, private vendettas against everybody and everything.

Now lets have a look into the near future - you proceed sending untrained troops into battles which they can´t win, declaring it whatever you like will at least leading to them stopping to play (look into the activity lists and you will find out what i mean) - maybe one good player out of ten will stay this way because he/she is able to stand the internal produced pressure. And why is that? Because they loose the Fun. Additional to this you will ofc. annoy those who are "attacked" by you. And at the end you will leave the Game for a couple of month until everything rebuilded itself or was rebuilded by others under giant efforts again, just to start the same with other People and Clans again. If i wouldn´t know it better i would think you are from one of the top servers trying to weaken the playerbase on a raising Server.

Now lets see what we have, a formerly good RP situation between SA and PX turned into what - yep, crap, because of? Well take a wild guess if you are not thinking about any of the so called historical or whatever given input lately. In my time here i only saw 3 hostile Clan Territory Invasions these three was all lead by you Gunny everything else was fun situations later sometimes heatened up to afterwards created situations with fictous backgrounds often added with a constructed poor victim (you) because someone got a view in it.

You told me that you was not in the need to even raise a finger when you came back for it just using the current situations to produce trouble for PX. Well well Gunny, "Ooops, you did it again". Let me see; R39 disbanded and migrated as a wing into chaos, chaos destroyed and banned, cfpd abused and disbanded, sfp abused and disbanded, cfpd refounded - do you realy think that this kind of sytle is bringing something good to CF - I will do you a favor and will not count any Clan you had trouble or deep trouble with.

Now i will repeat my request again - keep it good RP for everyone, otherwise especialy those who wanna play for fun will loose and become the victims of a created BS Situation.

If you want to play an RP which is not part of the CF Rules you need ppl agreeing to play this RP together with you - if they don´t agree your ideas of for example a warrant RP you will just acting out of the Server Rules when anyhow doing so - got that? It´s a matter of good relationsships to make new things - lately SA was often able to do such things, i don´t think you are Gunny.

Spiky

No Knight Char will complain when accidently attacked - for all other but the PX based Statements, thanks for the constructivity, ever thought by yourself why we never complained about BG openly where we would have enough reasons to do so?

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Michael · Dec 16th 2010

Too much lecture for me. MODERATION NOTE (SA_ARROW) : For me too !

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Gunny · Dec 16th 2010

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Now back to the warrants: Easy rp, its one kill per warrant per character. Warrant served
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Michael · Dec 16th 2010

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SA_ARROW · Dec 16th 2010

i admit i stopped reading replies in DW's first paragraph against Gunny... Here is my reply to StephanoV directly...

This warrant will go like it is for now (unless PX gives me 50M right away ^^).

I agree we should not put a whole clan on warrant for future reference but in this offense there were no screenshots taken and the 2 or 3 PX names couldnt be retraced but we know they were PX and many eye withness can testify. Hence, targetting the clan as a whole because anyway, last time i checked, the actions of a clan member has to reflect the actions of the whole clan.... If a member fails, the clan is responsible but generally, the clan leaders take disciplinary actions towards their faulty member and the other clan feels satisfied of the settlement and drop the case. Now in this precise case, PX supported the deeds of their members hence assumed 100% of responsability of what their members did. So targettign the clan as a whole is not "wrong".

I got that bounty (at first it was a bounty) idea from Abras who posted a public bounty not long ago... But you told me bounties were to be earned by mercs only, which is true in the rules but i didnt want PX to profit from this bounty by just killing themselves to earn the money. So i thought about this old warrants from CFPD i remembered back in 1.7... Gunny told me that the warrant shouldnt include any money reward so i dropped it. The warrant concept is nothing more than "announcing", in a RP way, that the police wish to arrest a crimnal. There is no longer official reward/bounty (except a friendly-side agreement to compensate for the time and ammo of our friends, which is not that bad) so nothing could be really gained except making the criminal an example not to contest the Police authorities which is soemthing only police officers should benefit from or ask for.

And about why we cdon't want pirates/smugglers to act under this warrant, it's quite simple : if the NYPD issues a warrant on a bank robber, do you really think Bronx street gangs and drug dealers will be autorized to proceed to the arrets ? nope. Perhaps COMMISSIONED bounty hunters will but in this case we dont wish to hire any head hunter...

So to resume, we could add it in the rules if you want :

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WARRANTS :
Police Officers can issue warrants for the arrest of a freelancer, a clan member or his entire clan (if this clan leadership assumes responsability of member's action). Only Police Officers or COMMISSIONNED mercenaries (optionnal) can act under a warrant.

Warrants for arrest will last for a period of time of max 24 hours during which the target of the warrant can be killed ONCE (every member of targetted clan can each be killed once) by the persons autorized to act under this warrant unless the target surrenders and agree to the conditions of the warrant post, in that case the warrant is deemed as served. To proceed to an arrest, an officer MUST announce that there is a warrant for arrest. If the target as already been killed, it should inform the officer so and the warrant will be void for this target (if the warrant includes multiple targets, these can chased if they havent been arrested yet).

A warrant post should include :

Target : Individual or multiple (clan).
Date of effect : YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM SERVERTIME.
Duration : Min 1 hour / Max 24 hours.
Reason : RP reason only.
Proofs (screenshot, eyewithness testimony) : simple....
Surrender conditions (fine) : Financial or other compensation to make the warrant "served".
(Optionnal)Commissioned Mercenaries : None/All mercs/Selected mercs.

Warrant should be posted in the Police Alliance Roleplay board on the SWAT forums for everyone to see.

The same as bounties, the target cannot switch characters or hide in non-RP systems to avoid this RP.
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In this precise case, the warrant would be :

Target : All |PX| members.
Date of effect : 24 hours after last utimatum was issued to pay the fine (sorry i havent checked the time yet)
Duration : 24 hours.
Reason : For breaking law in Omega-3, few PX member were asked for fines. Since the clan leadership refused to pay these fines, the Silver Arrows resolved to post a warrant for the arrest of all PX members unti lthe PX Knight Council accepts to pay the required fines plus interests of 20M Sirius Credits.
Proofs : Eyewithnesses : [CFPD]Gunny, SA_Maverick, SA_Dino can all testify that they were present whe nthe crime was commited. SA_FAABY who was involved in the negociations for settling the fine can also testify that the PX leadership refuses clearly to pay the fine.
Surrender Conditions : pay the initial 30M fine plus interest of 20M for late-payment (total 50M Sirius credits).
No mercenaries are commissioned for this warrant.

Daywalker · Dec 16th 2010

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StephanoV · Dec 16th 2010

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@ Gunny

I understand that this is not such a new concept but if that old one did not stick then the normal assumption would be that it wasn't done all the way, remaining in an imperfect state. In this regard I would like to volunteer to optimize this concept and present it to the leader board so that it could be a CF Community Project (meaning that we will all be part of it).

About the "War" stuff. If it's war let them say so, it is their right to act as they wish in supporting and enforcing their interests. They are "big boys". Mixing a RP concept with a Clan War cannot lead to a positive outcome regardless of the point of view you are looking from. So let them chose: RP through a newly implemented concept and help test it out OR RP through Clan War (because it will remain in RP as long as it is possible and I know that SA share the same opinion).

Regarding the BFF comments. I have only expressed the reality of the situation using funny analogies. I haven't insulted anyone and I haven't used bad language. If you will, take it as a pamphlet as it is nothing more.
About PX targeting anything and everything that you are involved in...From my point of view that sound a little hypocritical...let me share that point of view:
1. SA and PX have some disputes because of some BMG
2. SA and PX are on the brink of conflict (RP-wise). Tension adds to RP, a few incidents occur (All, really good RP)
3. SA and PX sign a non aggression pact, the conflict is resolved.
4. Gunny returns and starts playing again (both on forum and in-game).
5. SA reopens the conflict with PX.
6. The conflict gradually escalates.
7. SA is just seconds away from declaring war to PX.
8. the 8th point of this post is written^^.

Please draw your own conclusions.

About PX getting in conflict with SA and UR on different occasions, etc. Gunny mate, this may sound as a shock to you and you allies but we are mercenaries and we are hired to do stuff and sometimes that stuff is not planting trees and watering lilies (all of the interactions with SA and UR have been under contract). So we will not explain ourselves to anybody for doing RP because there is no need for an explanation. And yes, we are doing RP and there is nothing anybody can say against that without sacrificing their credibility and common sense.

We are not using you to "get to your allies"...I guess that by now everybody knows that we are rather straightforward on those kind of things. We are just stating some facts and the only thing you (and everybody) can expect from PX is contributing to the welbeing of the server, trying to improve and making RP, and defending itself if the need arises...in that order of priorities.

@ Spiky

Well the idea of a Warrant would be to issue it on the character not on the player (rendering that char "unplayable" for a certain duration of time). This way there would be more options -ie. The character could be docked in a prison for a day or more (rendering it unoperational for the duration). If the player would use that char and exit the prison or the system earlier than his "release time" then there should be a new, more harsh punishment (double of what the initial one was). It would add more depth and RP choices.

Take this and then apply it to a clan where if 50% +1 of their chars (chars with clan tag) would have "active warrants" issued on them they would be declared "unlawful" and thereby all clan would be presumed to be hostile to police => "KoS" for a week or even 2 or more. = more RP choices for clans (As pirates would not care but smugglers and mercs would want to balance their rp taking that into account).

But this would also require the "jurisdiction" concept in order to properly work.

About the "Knight" thing. You know very well that this happens in a form of other all over CF and beyond. Sometimes people want their privacy as they don't want to enter chat or for other similar reasons. We call them "knights" but we could use characters from Star Trek for that matter: |PX|Spock, |PX|Picard, |PX|Data, etc. It would be exactly the same thing, so we see no need to change it.

@ maverick

About the "applying for a warrant" stuff. Great idea! Anybody interested could send a pic of somebody smuggling to a cop and if the cop wants to then he could use that screen to issue a warrant and publicly post it. See, this is what I am talking about, developing the concept together.

@ Michael

About the "Michael" ship...You had your chance to make RP out of that, I don't see the point of complaining about it now...unless you're determined to never give up that type of behaviour, then it would be perfectly logical

About the SA and UR...
I wonder, if Gunny's holding SA with one hand and UR with the other...

@ Gunny again

About the SA business: I won't repeat the order of recent events and the conclusions one can draw from that. Your claims are a little farfetched...you were thrown in "the political" mix by our members?!? Our members do not do "politics" they do RP. We have a special branch that handles "politics", it's embodied by Shockwave and me and it's called Legatio Praetoris...and it's main attribute and most important is to generate RP.

About Slpxatwon: We take on bounties, that's what we do. If you have queries about that please direct your questions at him/her.

@ Arrow

I understand why you are doing what you are doing but we cannot agree with it. Taking a RP concept, mixing it with a "clan war" while mixing up the roleplays (adding pirate-you do as you please and you charge a tax in return for not killing, -merc - you take on bounties) in this way, without any rules and mechanisms to prevent abuse...Practically this means that SA will openly attack PX and every SA ally will openly attack PX (unless we pay "tax"). In this regard and for these reasons, I will make a formal complaint to op. We will, however, try to keep it within RP and we expect the same from any attacker.

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@ Arrow

We are not seeking any revenge. We made peace about the station blueprints long ago and it was ok. After that SA started to disreguard the terms of our ceasefire and SA members started being aggressive to ours. In this context, after acting under contract from a third party (doing RP) you indirectly declare war on us backed up by the everpresent Gunny, UR and BG.

@ Spiky

Although we didn't get well in the past I think that the moment has come to leave all that behind and start looking ahead without any resentment.

**SWAT_OP-R8R** · Dec 16th 2010

too much to read... way too much unimportant information
that slp guy was doing crap ... he was even under my observation and thats it... let this damn topic rest now

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SA_ARROW · Dec 16th 2010

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@ Arrow

I understand why you are doing what you are doing but we cannot agree with it. Taking a RP concept, mixing it with a "clan war" while mixing up the roleplays (adding pirate-you do as you please and you charge a tax in return for not killing, -merc - you take on bounties) in this way, without any rules and mechanisms to prevent abuse...Practically this means that SA will openly attack PX and every SA ally will openly attack PX (unless we pay "tax"). In this regard and for these reasons, I will make a formal complaint to op. We will, however, try to keep it within RP and we expect the same from any attacker.

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@ Arrow

We are not seeking any revenge. We made peace about the station blueprints long ago and it was ok. After that SA started to disreguard the terms of our ceasefire and SA members started being aggressive to ours. In this context, after acting under contract from a third party (doing RP) you indirectly declare war on us backed up by the everpresent Gunny, UR and BG.

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You seem to be misleaded StephanoV :

1 - SA doesnt want a war so does PX (DW's words when we settled the Blueprints business). This warrant/attack in Omega-3 is a single case, not a war, and should be treated just like a car speeding fine : you pay the fine or you get arrested and sent to jail.

2 - Glad you made peace ! Us too ! Now the ceasefire was to last for 24 hours (DW's words again) to allow the tensions to drop and let SAC and PXKC discuss a settlement, which was done. After that, its back to daily business and it was agreed so between me and DW... You are mercs we are police.. we should conflict from time to time its only natural and that's how the RP is meant to be anyway...

Now i seriously agree with OP (for twice i'vent read all replies cause it was too long). Stop making thousands of post. you can argue with points without adding those little phrases meant to atatck ppl at the end of your replies.

The warrant discussion is worth it to clarify and possibly add it in the rules to cover any misunderstanding.

I've taken the initiative to revive the Warrants, let's play and see how it goes...

StephanoV · Dec 16th 2010

@ Arrow...

I make long posts because alot has been said in the meantime I have 1000 cops jumping at my neck. Alot of those arguments were replies to things that should not have been posted in the first place. You cannot expect to throw dirt at me and then that I would not defend myself! Op was not reffering only to me but to all that posted here.
I did not put any "little phrases meant to attack people at the end". If somebody reads something and feels "guilty" about what he read, that 's his own business.

We do not want a war on SA either but you seem to force it on us. You chose a path. We responded.

About the "warrant" concept. We'll see how this one playes out and then we'll see how to improve it. I still think that you are making the police RP into an uber RP, taking on bounties (merc) while asking for tax (pirate).

If you want a new RP concept then let's all work on it and optimise it. If you want an excuse to start a war then don't bother, just say so.

So what is it out of those 2?

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P.S You understand, however, what a "Pandoras' " box you opened when you made "Warrants" be issued on "eyewitness" accounts...this would spell Disaster for the Server. (more) Cop Hegemony...

Gunny · Dec 16th 2010

I believe I entered the correct idea of a Warrant and it's very simple. It's not a new concept or action. So I fail to see the problem.

How does PX get to enter a clan system, fire on the owning clan without cause and then claim SA as the aggressor? Anyway, I still suggest we discuss the Warrant rp and make it correct.

SA_ARROW · Dec 16th 2010

Really m8 we don't ask for war.... Its nothing forced on you. You said you respected our move to ask a fine/post warrant but didnt agree with it, well, why not just hold for one more day and this case will be forever closed (warrant served or not). I will add this to my rule proposal... if a warrant is not served, another warrant for the same issue cannot be posted.

About cracks and irony (inteded for EVERYONE HERE) : Just drop'em ! its unavoidable, ppl will stop taking them as jokes and will reply seriously and another flaming will ignite. Just avoid it it will save us to know if you are mean or simply joking. And honestly none of the cracks above seem to be intended as jokes cause they are way to violent and displaying the commonly known feelings of their writers and targets....

And i really do want this warrant concept to return. Its no excuse to start a war, in fact its to stop one (close this damn dispute once and for all over the Omega-3 assault from PX).

So here is my initial proposal with few modifications, we can start from here :

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WARRANTS :
Police Officers can issue warrants for the arrest of a freelancer, a clan member or his entire clan (if this clan's leadership assumes responsability of its member's action). Only Police Officers or optionnal COMMISSIONNED mercenaries (acting as law enforcer in this context) can act under a warrant.

Warrants for arrest will mention no reward/bounty and will last for a period of time betweeen 1 and 24 hours during which the target of the warrant can be killed only ONCE (In case of multiple targets, each can be killed once) by the law enforcers authorized to act under this warrant. The target(s) may also surrender and agree to the conditions of the warrant post. In that case the warrant shall be deemed as served and no longer be usable.

To proceed to an arrest, an officer MUST announce that there is a warrant for arrest with the following phrasing : "[Player name], you are under arrest as specified in the [poster] warrant #[number]. [Tell how the target can save the death penalty]". If the target as already been killed, it should inform the officer so and the warrant will be void for this target (if the warrant includes multiple targets, these can chased if they havent been arrested yet).

A warrant post should include :

Target : Individual or multiple (clan).
Date of effect : YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM SERVERTIME.
Duration : Min 1 hour / Max 24 hours.
Reason : RP reason only.
Proofs : Screenshots only
Surrender conditions : Financial or other compensation to make the warrant as "served".
(Optionnal)Commissioned Mercenaries : None/All mercs/Selected mercs.

Warrant should be posted in the Police Alliance Roleplay board on the SWAT forums for everyone to see. As soon as a target is killed or has surrendered, it should post a reply in the corresponding warrant thread that the warrant has been server with a (timed : flhook /time) screenshot of the kill or the screenshot of the verbal agreement between the target and the law enforcer. As long as this action is not completed, the case cannot be officially closed. The law enforcer can post the outcome too but the task is on the target shoulders to avoid him getting arrested again.

The same as bounties, the target cannot switch characters or hide in non-RP systems to avoid this RP.

A reason used to post a Warrant may only be used once (to prevent cops abuse). If the warrant has not been served in time, it can no longer be the object of a new warrant. (note that a general crime (smuggling) is not a reason but the precise event of such crime may be (x smuggled y at z time).

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Now let's discuss...

(EDIT : Gunny : let's move on please... they were behaving bad in a RP way if they wish to believe they are right and don't admit it was wrong, they will face guns, not forum posts...)

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