Silver Arrows Server Roleplay

Has long has they have the proper permits to transport their restricted cargo, I do not see the problem. Of course, you have to be sure that those permits are valid in each jurisdiction you are travelling.

Quote from Gunny

The answer is yes! Any cop can fire on any cop for smuggling. That has always been the case.

As long as what is going on is within the bounds of RP, I cannot and will not argue with it. But there is a SERVER RULE that states that you must hail a smuggler before doing anything involving shooting. Period. And I was fired upon twice without so much as a "Defend yourself." The rules of RP may need to be reinstated and reinforced here.

But you weren't a smuggler if you didn't have the license. You were just a pilot with illegal cargo on board.

Thx Arrow,

@Any reader/participant
No need of "you said that , no I didn't" stuff on here, this thread is only stating SA's chosen RP model and it was done.
Now, who doesn't agree it, can also tell, but without ending in any kind of flaming.

Theese are the ONLY BMGs SA 'could' be allowed to trade due to security issues for humanity (RP story), players can't be obligated to leave SA in peace with them, but at least most will listen to it. This monopoly is not part of any RP rule, but more like a clan rule, which are usually respected by others until RP conflicts.

Military data assets:

* Military threat assessments
* Classified military research
* Experimental troop enhancement research
* List of defense network backdoors
* Military arms data
* military defensive weakness profiles
* Military scramble codes
* Military troop assignments
* Secret military codes
* Smuggled military secrets
* Classified battleship specs
* Experimental ship research
* Experimental weapon research

notice the Station Blueprints are not in the list.

Players with) Cop licence, Smuggler license or Mercenary license, while having illegal BMGs in cargo (counting the SA ones CAN, but not have to, be counted as legal transport, and some others for PX with another list) can be hunted down by a policeman for a fine... the RP rules(NOT Confusing with Server Rules, Paragraph A beign different from B or B.2) state that, for having a good behaviour and keeping normal RP you may warn the target with a "Defend" or "drop or pay fine, you have 10 seconds" and for security, a screenie with the BMGs(you never know what can get out of it ^^) , but it's only needed ONCE, so reengaging the same subject later can be direct, or if the policeman is kind enough (most should be, but not always) to warn again, anyways people in the same system are Clearly warned and aware that there is a policeman fining, and that if you will meet him, you have to prepare for stopping your engines. Trying to evade before he warns you is a good way to make him shoot and kill you on sight, before he could type the warn.

Pirate licenses can ofc be shot on sight as well viceversa, even a warn is also recommandable for a kind human specimen

With all this said, everyone should calm for now as afterall it's just few kills in discussion, few players lost some $, not a lot of it and neither a reason to make a bigger conflict out of it.

Insults or curses on the forum or in-game are not welcomed, and can be reported to GRs or Server Police (as there is a difference), but NOT replying with the same way, it'd just get to a "who said this first/started this" paradox where both sides will be less trustable next time.

If you don't have a constructive idea, or commends, don't mess where there's already a mess

I have no problem "as a cop" being shot by a cop for conducting illegal activity.

I hold no grudges towards anyone involved in the matter, yet the invitation for some friendly duels still stands.
I'm quite positive that at my current abilities, I'll be destroyed quickly, but I'm also sure i'll learn something from a few fights with anyone i haven't had the pleasure of dueling.

That being said...

If it is insisted that SA wear Police Licenses, i shall comply...but i will never be a cop.

Quote from Incognito

If it is insisted that SA wear Police Licenses, i shall comply...but i will never be a cop.

Not a "true/full" cop, anyway. Agreed and seconded.

Quote from SA_ARROW

Being only a Silver Arrows means more Z

This is true. True this is...

Seqan, last thing I need is to hear what you think the rules are. There isn't any rule on this server that prevents anyone from killing another player, at any given time, for any reason. RP is just RP. You KNEW I was policing the area for smuggling and you and your like, made the CHOICE to continue right into my area of control. Bad choice.

Furthermore, you also decided to post on the SA boards and complain about my comment to you. And yes I said it: I will kick the shit out of you and your clan if thats the way you want to play it. However sir, what you FAILED to mention in your post was your comment previous to mine, that you were going to demand our alliance be revoked. And yes, afterwards I said it will be done.

I am here to play and play the role of a cop and a tough cop at that. I am not a politician, I am not a diplomat and I dont have to like your choice of RP. But I have to do mine and I do it right. I push the rp limits so we can have fun. I make my choices in game and I deal with the outcome. Its FUN.

Now if you are smuggling, you will be shot. The others on here who say they are cops and choose not to rp, well that is their problem. I sir am here to play the game. Stop crime, kill pirates, invade opposing clan systems etc etc. If I get killed in the process, well that's simply part of the fun, which many of you need to start having. This is a GAME, you log in and take your chances with your chosen role and actions, have fun with it instead of pissing and moaning.

Now Michael can decide what to do with SA, but as for me, I will decide what to do with criminals......push'em right out of the airlock.

• I was just outside getting the newspaper and i got a wonderfull idea.
• Since there is BMG why couldent it be a somthing for the Police like CGG-Clasefied-Goverment-Goods or somthing that whould solve like all the troubles for alot of ppl since the CF economy is in a dark age atm.
• And there should be some short legal superoutes in Altair and IC that whould be awsome.

Legal BMGs for cops but not anyone else?

Should this be the case, I'll volunteer, group with Gunny and help him shoot you out of airlocks.
Job price: 1$. At best.

Gunny: I think that we all know now well what to expect from you when we have some ilegal cargo in storage (accidentally ofc )... sir.

... but bcs it will be accidentally (... stupid dock crew failed their work :D) and we will be therefore attacked surprisingly without warning, we will use our rights about selfdefence.

Sincelery,
SA_FORLON

Well we need more ways to make monny "Good ways" or else nothing will change so i hope OP wioll figure somthing out for the next version of the mod.

And im sure you misunderstod my question shokcwave i never said the new idea was BMG but the opposite and if not we need a Normal goods Superroute.

Quote from Gunny

Now Michael can decide what to do with SA, but as for me, I will decide what to do with criminals......push'em right out of the airlock.

You must admit it is quite unclear for SA to face 2 different lines of actions from CFPD.

As Head of Justice and Investigations Department in Silver Arrows, I would appreciate
an "official" position from the CFPD clan, so we may be able to take proper action and
having this issue resolved.
(Unless this is already being discussed on leader boards, in which case I will wait for
results)

Thank you.

Quote from [UR]GrandAndreasK

And im sure you misunderstod my question shokcwave i never said the new idea was BMG but the opposite and if not we need a Normal goods Superroute.

There are those everyday. Including mining. A team could fill trains within minutes at certain nebulas.

Official position of the CFPD is the same as always.

A military police department clan --> using force to enforce law, and lately we're not weak in doplomacy.

Any illegal activities will be shot down, as a militar does.... a stranger with a gun in middle of a conflict -> take him down before he takes you down (no need of conspirism about USA & iraq,iran syria etc here Andreas).
Well, brought this to the game is quite tough, but like in real life, police don't stay to speak with the criminal... first they arrest or eliminate the threat, then they make the judgement at the judger

Gunny is in his right to make police RP as tough as it is, without affecting any agreements, as none of the agreements CFPD has are related with ignoring the 'crap' of the other clans, but yes may cover it from exterior viewers, so it remains between us.

SA is in his right to defend without warning, but ofc, defending means to fire the second, being the first to fire is an offensive which should have a reason (like Gunny's one of 'corrupt' police ), so you don't have to be worried about it and post here "then we will also selfdefend", as you don't need confirmation for it And Gunny the same.

There's no conflict with the RP or server rules here... CAN only be related with one of the agreements btw SA and CFPD (so, clan rules), the self defence contracts, but in fact it's not related. We still help the other side defending from exterior threats... between us is another story.

So even there seem to be 2 lines of actions from CFPD, actually is the same thing, being allies doesn't mean we never have to fire at eachother for certain reasons, but it doesn't lead to any system invazion, personal conflicts or such, which could affect an alliance.

We are real police, and different from your clan, so don't expect we act the same way as we don't expect you to act our way, even you have to be approached to one of the RP options, but that doesn't mean we can't be 'friends'

So if there's any dobut about future things, or possible issues you may tell, but leave the past as it is, and see what will you do next time

Arrow:
thanx, well, the conflicts I sometimes get in don't make me think much more subjective and know what the other meant.... but if something is just unfair, it's unfair But I just got 1-2 RP conflicts in my time, and both this year Which went away pretty fast (matter of days). other issues usually appear, related with older things, and outer opinions or views (from other people out of the conflict) are not right, not knowing what the problem actually is. So it can look that both sides are really stupid or something... but each one with a reason

Edited PS: Actually I'm very involucrated in this... CFPD clan is part of what we're talking here, and I'm responsible Also if something goes really wrong, I (we) will still be your trainer.... by killing everyone like hostiles.

Thank you for your statement Michael.

Case is currently being investigated and under discussions for
internal decisions regarding this matter.

CFPD's RP rule aknowleged.

[threadclosed]IF your definition of RP is to argue over every shit then dont do RP. Otherwise -> PLAY THE GAME!!! If you think rules are broken then report it to ME as this is not GR business at all. And for sure I will not allow that you use this forum for such a trashtalk. Such issues do not belong here.[/threadclosed]