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  • HI all,..


    sorry to hear this news, but it was inevitable...so it should not come as a surprise to most of you...you were told before xmas that OP had concerns, however most have not bothered to take him seriously....


    I might be wrong here, but I think OP may be born under the sign of VIRGO, iF SO, THEN THIS MAY GIVE YOU AN INSIGHT TO WHY HE IS DOING THIS..


    Virgo is the only zodiacal sign represented by a female.



    They are usually observant, shrewd, critically inclined, judicious, patient, practical supporters of the status quo, and tend toward conservatism in all departments of life. On the surface they are emotionally cold, and sometimes this goes deeper, for their habit of suppressing their natural kindness may in the end cause it to atrophy, with the result that they shrink from committing themselves to friendship, make few relationships, and those they do make they are careful to keep superficial.


    But the outward lack of feeling may, in some individuals born under this sign, conceal too much emotion, to which they are afraid of giving way because they do not trust others, nor do they have confidence in themselves and their judgments.


    This is because they are conscious of certain shortcomings in themselves of worldliness, of practicality, of sophistication and of outgoingness. So they bring the art of self concealment to a high pitch, hiding their apprehensiveness about themselves and their often considerable sympathy with other people under a mantle of matter-of-factness and undemonstrative, quiet reserve.


    They are still waters that run deep. Yet in their unassuming, outwardly cheerful and agreeable fashion, they can be sensible, discreet, well spoken, wise and witty, with a good understanding of other people's problems which they can tackle with a practicality not always evident in their own personal relationships.


    Both sexes have considerable charm and dignity, which make some male Virgoans appear effeminate when they are not. In marriage they can be genuinely affectionate, making good spouses and parents, but their love making is a perfection of technique rather than the expression of desire, and they must be careful not to mate with a partner whose sex drive requires a passion they cannot match.


    They are intellectually enquiring, methodical and logical, studious and teachable. They combine mental ingenuity with the ability to produce a clear analysis of the most complicated problems. They have an excellent eye for detail but they may be so meticulous that they neglect larger issues. Also, although they are realists, they may slow down projects by being too exact.

    They are practical with their hands, good technicians and have genuine inventive talents, Thoroughness, hard work and conscientiousness are their hallmarks, and they are such perfectionists that, if things go wrong, they are easily discouraged.


    Because of their ability to see every angle of a many-sided question, they are unhappy with abstract theorizing. Appreciating the many different points of view as they do, they find philosophical concepts difficult, and they vacillate and have no confidence in any conclusions at which they arrive.


    Their minds are such that they need the stimulus of practical problems to be solved rather than the mere routine or working to set specifications that need no thought.


    They also make good editors, physicists and analytical chemists. They may also find success as welfare workers, ministering to those less fortunate than themselves.



    Both sexes have a deep interest in history, a feature recognized by astrological authorities for at least two hundred years. If they go in for a business career their shrewdness and analytical ingenuity could tempt them into dishonesty, though they usually have enough moral sense to resist temptation.


    Their faults, as is usual with all zodiacal types, are the extremes of their virtues. Fastidious reticence and modesty become old-maidishness and persnicketiness; balanced criticism becomes carping and nagging; and concern for detail becomes overspecialization.


    Virgoans are liable to indecision in wider issues and this can become chronic, turning molehills of minor difficulties into Himalayas of crisis. Their prudence can become guile and their carefulness, turned in on themselves, can produce worriers and hypochondriacs.


    Possible Health Concerns...


    Virgo is said to govern the hands, abdomen, intestines, spleen and central nervous system. Illnesses to which its natives are prone include catarrh, cold, coughs, pleurisies, pneumonia and nervous instabilities. Their natures make them inclined to worry and this makes them vulnerable to stomach and bowel troubles, including colic and ulcers. Male Virgoans may have trouble with their sexual organs. Both sexes are strongly interested in drugs and esoteric cuisine and as their delicate stomachs require them to be careful about their diet, it is essential that they treat their fascination with exotic food with extreme care.

  • Hmm... glad I'm Capricorn about now :P

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  • ...oh my god.....what kind of BS is that!...i had to research on what Virgo falls under...and it turns out..that i am one of them.... and guess what....all of that shit is false...ahahahaha



    Astrology is BS...i mean come on..!! HAHAHAHA problems with their sex organs?? HAHAHAHA Perfectionist? wow... its funny how people try to read you and it gets funnier when they tell you that ( in my case) i wasn't the person that they expected. The only thing that Astrology got right is that I like Reading History....thats it..the rest was utter crap! Besides if i was the one running this server i wouldn't be like OP ( No offense Dude) I don't Give up Easily either. and... i dont have bowl problems (LOL)



    "their love making is a perfection of technique rather than the expression of desire"


    "Both sexes are strongly interested in drugs and esoteric cuisine and as their delicate stomachs require them to be careful about their diet, it is essential that they treat their fascination with exotic food with extreme care."


    ROFLs alot i don't even like taking medications of any kind..hell i rarely get sick of anything other that pukeing when i drink too much




    Please.... I want to hear more people that are Virgos and tell me if is true or false for you. preferably born under 1984 might work better.

  • i'm sad to hear this but if the server closes,then meet me on the Void.


    btw,i have one question: the server will go down for a short period of time until everything gets back to normal,or it will go down FOR EVER ?


    if there are people that flame/post sh*t,etc. on the forum,the only solution is to ban them,especially AFTER telling them to stop doing that.

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  • If the server goes down m8 it isn't coming back. I agree though... let there be no flaming. As for other servers, it is not appropriate to advertise here. Things may look bad, but have enough respect for CF not to do that.

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  • Well my first and most probably my last post.Its sad to see whats happening to this community (and it is a community).I understand what OP is doing hes put a hell of a lot of hard work into this forum and cf mod ,he must have its the best out there and it must be disheartening to get messed about after all that hard work.But it would be sad to see that hard work fade away and dissapear.


    Ive been playing on the server for a few weeks now and have enjoyed my time on it.The players ive met spoke to and 99.9% of the people on there have been fantastic, helpfull and friendly.I would like to thank the admins and the other people who helped me along in the cf world (you know who you are).Also i will continue playing as long as the server stays up and hope it stays up for a long time to come.


    OP , i hope you change your mind about everything as a lot of people will miss cf.There are always people out there who will piss you off online and in real life but i bet you have some real good friends that you have made through the cf community.So your hard work was worth it in the most.


    Good luck to all and see you on the server while it last ;(

  • OP please dont upset this guy ^^, hes pays tax!.

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  • you are all 8almost) writeing stupidities here ... if you had any clue of forum making and administrating it, then you would know what happened here ...


    so, go to the server and play there ... its better ...

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  • Inferno you ask people to play on the Server. I heard that you sold off all your trains :P8o:D


    I want this server to run as long as possible.


    btw now my clan is good enough and I never lied about anything. I have also always helped as many people as possible.


    UAC and Drakon have left the Server. We can maybe still continue on. I meet new people on the server everyday and talk to them for hours at end.


    OP could u take away that Base Idling kick :P

    THE FASTEST ONE


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    Originally posted by supercars
    OP could u take away that Base Idling kick :P


    ehhmmm........huh?? lol....

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    Originally posted by supercars



    UAC and Drakon have left the Server. We can maybe still continue on. I meet new people on the server everyday and talk to them for hours at end.


    {UAC} HAS NOT left the server. Read Dopple's post again.

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  • UAC have left the server? news to me m8!


    Drakon has left because he has a lot of feelings for CF and its players and cant stand to see it end. CF was my first online gaming experience. FL is the only game i have played for the past 4 years, and when the GBS is eventually shuts down too i doubt that i will ever play another online game, unless microsoft ever create FL2.


    ive met lots of good ppl here aswell as some complete tossers(a very small minority). and i hope i dont lose contact with them.
    if any of you are passing through Amesbury please stop in my pub for a pint with me and sapph. you'll know who we are as sapph really does look like here avatar! lucky me ;)


    @OP: you created something great in CF, it has never been reproduced on any other server ive visited, the friendship, the comaraderie, the fun. its a real shame a few fuckin wankers have abused your trust and "forced" you into becoming as cynical as now. trust me thats not an insult, its what happens when ppl you trust fuck you over! i speak from experience.
    if there was one mod to survive out of the countless ones out there it should have been this one. you ALL should know that.
    anyway OP if you decide to have a change of heart, even after you close the server, you can count on everyone i know here to be back.


    We never know what the future holds OP, but i hope yours is as good as you hope for, and you fullfil your needs.


    my msn address is the same as my email if anyone wants to add me to thier contact list:
    jonathon.edwards@ntlworld.com.
    i also have a seperate msn account: the_only_doppleganger@hotmail.co.uk


    btw....i will miss this place aswell as the server itself, it has been fun to be a part of something great.

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    Originally posted by supercars
    Inferno you ask people to play on the Server. I heard that you sold off all your trains :P8o:D


    does 5 BILLION $$$$$ (money) tell you something ???


    and i also know that i've told this info only to 4 players ... wndering how did you get to this info ...

  • OOOPs....Damn was in Amesbury last week totally forgot about your pub :s oh well nvm always next time....actually could do with a pint or 2 after reading all this...........

  • interesting... indeed... very interesting


    since the agresssion towards new ppl which wanted to say something did raise because they have a different oppinion i will jump in to say a few words


    I announced my plans exactly 1 week ago and i left options open for you, for the community. I also did only close off topic boards yet even if it would just be a few clicks to get rid of everything here (including the direct links some ppl used). I did this to see if my decision and reasons are really correct.


    After this week I can say that the week was very disappointing and that you guys didnt learn anything since you joined this place (most of you).


    This week I really had the feeling that "enemies", new members and banned ex-members of CF and SWAT are more interested in keeping it alive than its own community. I consider this the biggest shame in my 7 years online gaming history.
    There wasnt really much interest from the others in the same way there was not really much interest before that week.


    Somebody wrote that i gave up but the truth looks a little bit different. You guys gave up... weeks ago... months ago... I dont know when but you did and the result of this is the current situation. What i did was just the consequence out of that... I concentrate my work on those which still care. Unfortunatly that are only a few.



    Do you want to know what i observed the past week? I can tell you in detail so you might understand better.


    1. lets start with the meeting
    I announced my resignation there and the response was more or less "hmm yeah ok lets go to the server". Nobody did even think about possible reasons... no discussion about your clans future... nothing.


    2. i announced that if I run out of donations for the server i will close it because i wont pay for others after i already paid hundreds of euros in the past years for this community, your pleasures, your clans.
    i left the option open for you to stay on the server and keep it running by doing something pretty simple... supporting it
    I jump a few days forward now because it does fit to this topic
    I think it was wednesday when a calculation did appear about the serverpayment .... something with 8 clans and 20 per month should be enough to keep the server online... it is a nice calculation and yes if everything would run this way there wouldnt be a problem with payments... but this is not the case and i also was a little bit wrong saying that i only got 2 months for the server


    actually Ive got 375 via paypal and another 80 on my current account which makes 455 (for this year)
    169 x 4 months = 676
    which leaves me behind with 221 + the costs for 2 webservers (one with unlimited traffic)
    That is how the reality looks and not how a calculation does show it.
    I gave you guys the chance to keep CF running but it looks like this is no option for you. Well what a shame then.


    3. I said i would close the if i run out of money for it (yes the same topic again)
    next day on the server i had to read "OP will close the server"
    aha... hmm yeah... ermmm what on the word "if" is it that you dont understand? is it the "i" or is it the "f"?
    Listening and reading is something you ALL still have to learn.... not to mention the overreacting.


    4. i believe the next was this so called meeting on sunday which i consider a very big joke
    instead of dealing with the obvious problems you discussed about what?.... roleplay? I mean... wtf?
    You completely ignore the real problems which is destroying this community to discuss something which will never become reality.
    No solved problems -> no server -> no roleplay
    you did step 3 before you did step 1 and 2 and you fall on your nose this way.
    What did you even think by doing this?
    Did you think you could do changes on RP just like you want? How will you tell people how this RP does work? It does differ from the "OFFICIAL" RP on the server or did you think you just can tell me to do the changes for you?
    You cant do a shit without the need that i do changes.


    5. The RP discussion here on the forum (yeehaa O_o)
    as usual everyone wants something different... as usual nobody does agree to anything. Impressive! endless discussions with no results. I think ive seen too many of those in the past years. (one reason why i lost interest in this community as a whole)
    And i know that im not the only1 thinking this way since I got enough PMs from different ppl which contained something like this "OP they are doing it again, another RP discussion... im so sick of it"


    6. Peterchen claimed that the IOC issue was the last thing needed to let the situation escalate. Thinking about it it was ONE of the last things needed to let it escalate... yes.
    It is a very sensitive topic since our interests seems to be very different. Im interested in an united community which does work together for the same long term goals and you are interested in short term solutions for your clans. But what if your time is running out? What makes your interest better than my interests? Short term success and long term death? Several times i offered something to the members of this community but it didnt seem that you are willing to accept a chance that does open a new chapter, a new future. Well ok, a few BGs did in the past but even this has gotten less but for them i still see hope while you dont think about more than the NOW and about YOURSELF.
    Ok lets take a closer look at what did happen:
    Unfortunatly i have to start with SirEx. Im not willing to do researches about when it was but it was quiete some time ago when i decided to help a dying mod called SirEx. I gave it a forum, created a webpage, helped with information and a little balancing, I even was going to provide an interface for it and host a server (or i better should say that i organized a server). To sum up i was going to give that mod the best start it could get with an already successful community supporting it. The only thing I expected was that rogue would join the SWAT modding team which he did agree with and which did mean that SirEx would be a SWAT-Project. When I opened the forum i announced it as SWAT-Project... when I introduced it at LR it was a SWAT-Project... when I uploaded the website it was a SWAT-Projects showing the SWAT logo.... but when i said my oppinion about some changes on the mod I suddenly was told "It is not a SWAT project and it never was"... something i consider a backstabbing. Using/taking all the advantages without giving something back and breaking agreements.
    What did people expect? that im a charity worker? that i invite people so i can offer my help, my webspace, my time... that i give them a server and that as soon the project is finished those ppl can take half of my community?
    Well those guys said its no SWAT project and never was so i did throw the whole project outa here (the only logical decision). The 2 IOC had the chance to decide and they decided against this community and so i told them to go.
    I heard many different stories about what happened... mostly ppl spread the word that i did throw out a SWAT project for no reason and that all others are unguilty and never did something wrong. But since i never do something without a good reason (never did and never will do) these stories look kinda stupid and the threads on this forum show what really happened. But ok that was just some kind of background info.
    It is well known what i think about multiserver clans and that i dont trust them due to ... lets say experience and history. Honestly i have a very big problem having a serverclan that is on different servers due to following reasons:


    - I cant be sure if information that is only supposed to be for CF will stay on CF
    - I cant be sure that no players are asked to go to other servers (no matter if they are members of this clan or not)
    - i cant be sure that if there is trouble between servers i am able to trust this clan and its members any longer since they could support the other server
    - I cant be sure that enemies of CF can get into that clan on that other server and that those guys can get information on the clan forum that can be used against this community here (on CF only it is a limited risk)
    - multiserver clans heavily tend to get splitted which does cause alot of trouble also for the server communities
    - there are more reasons which i better wont post here


    Of course not somebody from IOC can say "Ill give you my word that all this wont happen" but lets stay realistic... not even the best leader is able to ensure that. Not to mention that many times before ppl gave me their word and broke it. Considering that this situation is because of ppl which support ppl that broke an agreement with the SWAT community I would say a word is worth nothing here no matter from who it comes. I dont even go too much in detail now about rumours about IOC being on NQ and finding out that they are on Void now (which never was friendly to us and that was well known here).
    And before some ppl not start to overreact now... this is no personal decision... it is a pure logical view of what did happen and how it does look like. I know that IOC was/is a very valueable clan on CF and that this clan did alot for the community but right now... it is very hard for me to trust IOC and im very disappointed about various things that did happen.


    I think there was a discussion here on the explaination thread about IOC... about friendship and so on.
    Sure you are friends with those IOCs that decided to go a different way. But you also seem to be friends of many others HERE. Tell me if im wrong.
    What makes those guys more special than ur friends here? is it because they are IOC? are the others here worth less? Yeah you stick to them... but you dont care what are the consequences here... or maybe you care for them but you accept them. I dont know.
    Currently you walk on a wall trying not fall down left or right but you dont see that the wall soon comes to an end... an end that would lets you fall even deeper.
    On this mentioned thread there was a discussion about letting the "lost" IOCs back... cool yes why not... but only if their intentions are clear and not bound to 2 different communities. Im not going to invite trouble.
    Some of you may have a problem with me sending those guys away... sending your friends away. What do you think how many times I was forced to send MY friends away (ban)? How many times I did decide against friends in community matter if they did something wrong?
    Don, Trowa, Skorp, Senior, Binage, Dragon, Calacorm, Andy and much more.... it is a long list and like you i with at least some of them back here but the decision to ban them was right because the community survived this way. And dont think this were easy decisions for me.


    7. problems were shown but not solved
    not long ago i posted a small story about communication (something with a bear)
    besides 2 members of this community nobody used the chance to communicate... to find out more about the situation and problems.
    You guys were too busy crying than to ask for the why and for possible solutions.
    Not to mention that you guys dont read what is written.
    ------------------------
    Guy: "the mod is not working... but i already used FLMM 1.4"
    OP: " what does the instruction say?"
    Guy: "clean installation and flmm 1.31"
    OP: "what did i say on the forum?"
    Guy: "clean installation and flmm 1.31"
    OP: "and why the hell did you use FLMM 1.4?"
    Guy: ***silence***
    ------------------------
    Ok it was about a different topic but it does describe the situation with you and what you understand pretty well. Either you dont read it exactly or you start interpreting what is said and then rumours appear on the server which are not true... but in both cases you dont get the real message
    Even if you get the message then you come up with things like "im not sure how to do that" or "im not in the position to do that" or "im new - i cant do that".
    Guess what i smell!.... BIG BULLSHIT
    If ever human would have said such a crap we still would live in caves and explain everything with mystical gods.
    Nature is such a fantastic example... either you do something or you die. This concept didnt change in the past few hundred million years and why should it be different for online communities or clans?
    (Right now something from quantum theory came to my mind which whould fit in here perfectly but i better wont post it cause it would confuse most ppl more than neccessary.)
    The excuse "i cant do this because ive never done it" or "i dont know how" is something you should take... put in into a case... put a big lock onto it... and throw the key away. As a human being you are able to learn and do anything you want... excuses are for those which are close to death.


    8. something I heavily disrespect is agression against people which have not given up yet... if you give up then it is your personal decision of death... but dont expect that others will do the same.
    Ppl which think that I gave up are wrong... I kept my options open... and I kept options open for you.
    No matter what will happen I keep on working for what i believe in... I might just go different paths depending on the situation.
    What are you going to do? What are you believing in?


    9. I believe in a place where ppl can meet... play together... be friends. But unlike you I believe that this place has a long term base. Not a "this year i play here this game and next year i play another game somewhere else".... not a "today i play crossfire and next week i leave my friends behind and play in a different community".
    SWAT was supposed to be a place for people working together for the portal in different clans and different games or mods. No need to leave a community if you loose interest in a game... you simply take the game to the community... that is the idea behind it.
    That is also why im interested in different mods here... why i supported SirEx... why i supported BlasterUniverse... why i try to get the other projects running. A community where the players can say "hey today i want to play CF and tomorrow i want to play BU" without the need to leave friends behind and never see them again.
    Having different mods with different servers but one place where all can meet, discuss and have fun.
    Unfortunatly I seem to be the only one following this path... a lost path because before CF... before this community was opened to other clans I had such a Portal with different clans working for the same thing... different games... and a central place to meet. I want these times back because they mean future. A future none of your clans will have as soon FL does die and we all know that FLs best times are over already. You guys might go on like you do now... your clans will survive barely... but when the time has come the clans will go and with them your old friends... contacts will break together and soon FL and its clans are long forgotten. U know that this is true... and im not willing to accept that everything does end in this way... i want to keep things together... give the community a better chance. But im fighting windmills.


    10. the astrology thingy is cool
    I would say about 70% correct (but i wont tell you which except that the only sexual problem is not enough time because of this community, but there you also could ask my ex-gf)

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  • ...and at the end it was the server....


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  • 4 things i also want to mention about multiserver



    - all clans that i know which tried this failed and were either splitted or are dead now (some ex-cf clans belong to them)


    - multiserver does weaken both communities since both would need the players on their server to show that the server is good
    -> a good server is full... a full server is good... thats why ppl are interested to join full servers and not empty servers


    - not even I would try to go multiserver in different communities since it is impossible to be informed about everything that happens on both servers and it is not possible to be on both servers if problems appear


    - if a serverwar does start between both servers.... how should a leader react then?
    stay neutral and get the agression and mistrust of both servers or decide between server A and server B?
    if so will the clan be splitted? will the clan loose even more members?
    you can search for a 2nd server which has no problem with the 1st one... but you will never be able to ensure that this situation does not change from one moment to another (we didnt have problems with other servers before the troubles with them really started from one moment to another)

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    Don't discuss with idiots. They only drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience there.


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    Twenty percent skill,
    Fifteen percent concentrated power of will,
    Five percent pleasure,
    Fifty percent pain,
    And a hundred percent reason to remember the name!