Fights go to long

Hello Nads,

gave you try to look here: https://swat-portal.com/forum/…i/crossfire/combatguides/ ?

Trying combine guns with heavy damage and rapid fire can sort out initial enemies pretty fast. You have also in New York relative cheap light fighter which easily can pass whole vanilla part. I understand your view, but as was already said more times, with every new mod release was reduced its difficulty. It is still hard, but it was not meant like "easy go in, fast pass through". We also more times heard that it is too hard, but we also experienced in many cases that players were able very fast adapt on mod difficulty if they try use different approach and learn new things. This learning speed was usually doubled if player joined us in multiplayer. This mod was developed for community here and we like challenge. I understand that this is not "modern" these days ... but we like it have the way like it is done.

the fights are good the way they are
if you have problems then for gods sake use the money from the start to buy some better weapons or better ships
seriously
i have lowered the difficulty with every version already
if i lower it even more the npcs will explode wihout being shot at.... really its easy

it also wouldnt hurt if you take a look at the combat guides

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Hello Nads,

gave you try to look here: https://swat-portal.com/forum/…i/crossfire/combatguides/ ?

Trying combine guns with heavy damage and rapid fire can sort out initial enemies pretty fast. You have also in New York relative cheap light fighter which easily can pass whole vanilla part. I understand your view, but as was already said more times, with every new mod release was reduced its difficulty. It is still hard, but it was not meant like "easy go in, fast pass through". We also more times heard that it is too hard, but we also experienced in many cases that players were able very fast adapt on mod difficulty if they try use different approach and learn new things. This learning speed was usually doubled if player joined us in multiplayer. This mod was developed for community here and we like challenge. I understand that this is not "modern" these days ... but we like it have the way like it is done.

when i first started playing this mod and like all have experienced other mods too, yep first impression was it,s hard to get going, bugger this but as always the adrenalin kicks in and tried different ways and success began and so the thrill to keep going. getting further out to other systems i was hooked and never looked back.
thanks to the creative mind of the team saw too the many years of the mod and each new version, so i say boring it,s definately NOT. and sore arm to keep going.the fighting to hard no it,s not it,s your ability to learn. don,t be so quick to give up and on here WE DON,T TELL PILOTS TO F/OFF.

kermit

@nads, try to get a guns from the junkers ... 8.33 refire rate ... 4 of them... you will rock ...

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@nads, try to get a guns from the junkers ... 8.33 refire rate ... 4 of them... you will rock ...

they are either usiel or vassago both fire at 8.33. both can also be bought from buffalo base in the bad lands of n/y
kermit

nads: It will not happen and is at least 2 simple reasons. 1) Player need want to learn and try what we suggest. I used for early mission the same ship which use King (with high hull damage guns from Manhattan) and it works very good (ofc with rapid fire). You do exactly opposite, you change game content to be playable for you without trying your approach. This ofc can't give good outcome with later fights and i not talk about multiplayer ...
2) changes which you ask can work only for mission spawned npcs, will not work of these normally spawned, bcs they are the same like in multiplayer.

you say: change things bcs ...
we say: try this and try learn this
you say: No, I have altered things to play 'my way'.

And I want add one more thing. While we started test SP many months back, then it was rly hard bcs your allies had very poor equip and all fighting was on you. This was changed and now your allies use much better equipment and take good amount of fighting. this can be applied for almost whole sp and we already had some feedback that was expected 'higher difficulty' (luckily this can solve difficulty slider)

Quote from Martind Forlon

nads: It will not happen and is at least 2 simple reasons. 1) Player need want to learn and try what we suggest. I used for early mission the same ship which use King (with high hull damage guns from Manhattan) and it works very good (ofc with rapid fire). You do exactly opposite, you change game content to be playable for you without trying your approach. This ofc can't give good outcome with later fights and i not talk about multiplayer ...
2) changes which you ask can work only for mission spawned npcs, will not work of these normally spawned, bcs they are the same like in multiplayer.

you say: change things bcs ...
we say: try this and try learn this
you say: No, I have altered things to play 'my way'.

And I want add one more thing. While we started test SP many months back, then it was rly hard bcs your allies had very poor equip and all fighting was on you. This was changed and now your allies use much better equipment and take good amount of fighting. this can be applied for almost whole sp and we already had some feedback that was expected 'higher difficulty' (luckily this can solve difficulty slider)

i remember i did not buy anything in n/y till i had a look whats what and then bought a defender from b/s and mounted vengence mk4 and beat the crap out of the bloodhounds and sold pods in texas. then got the bounty out of the two wrecks there and on it all went.
kermit

(note to myself: add info to starting guide)

@nads
if you think the fights are long ... ever tried Big Daddys Storyline Mod ?
THERE the fights are REALLY looong, even if you think yourself "seasoned".

Compared to that the CF SP missions as well as the at the bars offered missions are
EASY PEASY !
I admit that the in-between fighting (pod collecting) can be ... hard if staying to standard
ship and equipment from Manhatten, but the campaign missions ... mainly all you have to
do is trying not to be shot - beside "rescuing Beta 4" where you should be quick to shoot down
the "right Liberty Rogue" (the one chasing Beta 4).(counts for the bigger part of all missions)
The rest will be done by your "comrades" givin' to you by the game. And the Starflier IS THE
most agile ship at all. Should be easy.

Crossfire is NOT made to be an quick, in-between-just-kill-100+npcs as an "anti-frustration" pill.
It is a still mild preparation for MP, but fun in its own rights therefore challanging.

My setup for the first missions
Starflier with lavalblades

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(note to myself: add info to starting guide)

further note to yourself martind don,t start answering yourself or we all will start to worry you know what the next step is a padded cell.
kermit

What do you think to live in as --- a Crossfire nut

Yeah ... you too APE ... Forlon is the living example btw ... hahahahaha...

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What do you think to live in as --- a Crossfire nut

hey nucnuc, you reckon he will have lots of company in there then, we are all crossfire nuts
kermit

Nads get some input from kermit.

I can imagine if you just start with the starting ship and mk I guns this can be very hard.
What you should learn from this is that better guns do more damage

Get a Defender and better guns and will be better.
Advanced hint: When you have your first "break" in story line to make money for the next level, go to texas for missions ( SAVE THE PODS and sell them at the LPI there, gets you lots of money).Do this until you have 1,000,000 and then search the jumphole in New York to Custodian. Buy there an Eagle/Sabre/Titan ( depending on your likes) and be much easier for the next missions.Note: Buying at this stage a 8-10 million ship does not pay off, you will pretty soon have to change your ship in the story line. Stay tuned.

PS: We had a similar thread recently, you will find there for sure also valuable tipps:
New to CF, CrossFire 2.0 is awesome. Love it! but its kicking my ass

Be assured, game is challenging but very nicely levelled out. Just needs a little ime to get into it but definately is worth the investment since it is just great!