SA Monopoly Reviewed

There are 35 replies in this Thread. The last Post () by SWAT_OP-R8R.

    The SA monopoly has been reviewed to reflect more our explorers/defenders RP :


    The SAC will give protection/support to its members who are trading these monopolized goods and will allow all SA pilots to take action if they find unallowed transporters carrying them. Our allies CFPD, UR and BG are permitted to transport them. Nothing in return is required.


    We hope that the various factions of Sirius will respect our monopoly and agree that WE are the most trustable organization to handle these sensitive items. If you don't, our pilots are ready to deal with you with the usual good conduct known of the Silver Arrows.


    If a SA pilot shall decide to trade BMGs out of that list, he/she will do so alone, without any support of the Silver Arrows Command.


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    Note : All SA have been warned that in no way they are safe to transport BMGs so there shouldn't be place for any complaining in the future !

    You are now in conflict with PX's monopoly.... but well, their matter.


    All except the last two have much enough sense tho :) Even your investigators got a difference item from me for investigations... a Cell.

    Chars: [CFPD]Michael~something (x25), [CFPD]~SQMS~{[(store)]} (x3), [CFPD]xfer, Event~Manager~Michael, StarfIier~EM~Michael, Event_Team_2, [GR]Michael[SP] and a blueprint of [CFPD]Sephirothis

    i know we are in conflict with PX on the blueprints... that's meant this way and DW was only waiting for SA to contest their monopoly ! See, PX and SA, for a reason i don't know yet, love to shoot each other down ! :bstupididea:

    i like PX. :D
    i've had some great duels and rp with them in the past. looking forward to more in the future.

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    Diplomacy ? You really think they will want to talk about it ? Youth naivete ! :bmuhahaha:

    Have u tryed?
    You just come to swat and say "this is our monopoly"
    You mention PX clan like we have some sort or problem with you and if we chase any SA clan.
    If you dunno nothing about us, u should learn we have a division for negociate this kind of deals. (Stephanov and Shockwave)


    The question is:


    You are no cops. SA is reseachers or xeno cops like you said. You have a unique RP to defend people from NCP aliens :rolleyes:
    but... you can come here and say "this are ours monopoly BMG" and you and your cops allies can trade these BMG at will and bla bla bla.


    here is my point of view.
    Trading BMG is illegal. At Least one cop open the eyes and touched in a sensetive wound that is SA RP. just becouse you have monopoly doesnt mean only u and your "allies" can trade it.
    And since you are being so cocky with you speech
    So here how it works
    If any SA attack a PX trading BMG, since you are no cops and you not even consult anyone around here we will defend yourselfs (Rules give us that right)
    Furthermore that player will be consider Kos since you are no cops and u are not using RP, and you are not the owner of this BMG. Them "maybe" u come and talk to us.


    is that your goal? Was this kind of anwser you want from us? Are you happy?
    Next time contact us before coming here posting threads about "PX can do or will do" ok?

    I think (correct me if wrong) that the main idea of this monopoly "conflict" with PX,
    is not to "order" anything to anyone, but to develop the idea that on a strict RP
    view why not "compete" for some goods instead of all remaining with our own monopoly list ?


    I see this as a very interesting RP opportunity - That is if it can remain in "cordial" competition,
    and not necessarily starting (flame) wars. We shall see...


    I do not think anyone should claim "owning" a certain commodity if not fighting for it?


    But this is more of a personal monopoly "philosophy" that should rather be discussed in the
    "monopoly" topics than here.

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    Read first micahel post


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    You are now in conflict with PX's monopoly.... but well, their matter.

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    I know we are in conflict with PX on the blueprints... that's meant this way and DW was only waiting for SA to contest their monopoly ! See, PX and SA, for a reason i don't know yet, love to shoot each other down ! :bstupididea:

    Who call PX for this tread?
    BTW did i chase any SA for loving to shoot you? (outside RP)


    PX position will be decided and posted later :)


    U wanna bring RP, You shall have it :D

    OK. I see there is some misunderstanding. For all lower rank SA: PLS not discuss here about anything "monopoly" related!
    DW: pls wait, you wil got PM. This thing not needed be discussed here openly.

    *FACEPALM* This comment of mine about PX loving to shoot SA was sarcasm ! Noticed the smiley ??? And btw your leader is always up for a good fight with us...


    About conflicting on the Blueprints matter : here is from the Leaders Board discussion i had with Daywalker :

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    yeah, good thats a clear statement we can work with it.


    About the Station Blueprints, very well - good move :) bring it on.


    Its only an occasion to bring some conflicts/battles/RP.


    KoS might be a little harsh response for a simple matter such conflciting on a monopoly. According to the monopoly gameplay, anyone can challenge any monopoly and this is the main spirit of the gameplay that will generate RP. If we would all keep the same monopoly it would be dull. KoS will only lead to breaking the RP on a long time period and we got to avoid this.


    And enough with the Cops cannot do smuggling. The whole Monopoly gameplay is based upon ANYONE can declare one ! You see it as illegal and smuggling, i see it as trading restricted/senstive cargo that shall not come in criminal hands... I still am a target to pirates/employed mercs or police who don't trust me for dealing with such sensitive cargo. I don't break any RP !

    When it was discussed this last spring about monopolies, there was no opposition for the Cops to have a monopoly...


    I will continue this discussion in PM only, i invite any moderator to delete following messages that may lead to yet another ugly flaming....

    No its not closed ;)
    If SA mounts the cop license then they are cops. There is not more to quarrel about this. Everyone knows what their rights and duties are.


    The thing about this BMG is nothing more then a big fuss about nothing. I didn't liked the idea as it was implemented and nobody could prove the opposite until now. You think that every player knows who has which commodity declared to be monopoly of the clan? I give a rats ass about it and will proceed with this attitude. I will not learn by heart 50 and more commodities belonging to which clan. The only thing that is important - BMGs are illegal and with that i have to respect the consequences if i am being caught carrying such goods.


    If PX, SA, DC and IOC are coming saying i am carrying their goods then well it might be so - and? You cannot claim someone shall know all monopoly goods or look at - dunno what - page to verify it. Unfortunate the smuggler license isn't working that way it limits the access of BMGs to smugglers only. I would gladly see your faces if this becomes true one time ;)


    Guys seriously - has there been any good RP yet more than 10 minutes with this monopoly yet? I didn't witnessed any lately. Instead its always been quarreled about this topic in the forums. Life could be so easy - but somehow this does not apply to monopoly topic on CF^^

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    If PX, SA, DC and IOC are coming saying i am carrying their goods then well it might be so - and? You cannot claim someone shall know all monopoly goods or look at - dunno what - page to verify it. Unfortunate the smuggler license isn't working that way it limits the access of BMGs to smugglers only. I would gladly see your faces if this becomes true one time ;)


    Sorry, I'm not sure I follow you. Would you respect the monopoly if one of the said clans called you saying you were carrying the monopoly and pay the royalty or drop? Just trying to clarify... I'm a little slow. ;)

    Hour as dangerous pirate will for sure respect any monopoly with his guns :D:P ...this seems to me as crystaly clear.


    p.s: and That functionality that only Smugglers can buy BMG is imho good. Hope that it can be implemented in game something in future.


    Segan: look here :) ..it looks that this info was overlooked by you :P

    That point is: If you SAs are coming to me and/or catching me with the so called monopoly - what chance do i have to verify you are saying the truth? I mean then everyone could come to somebody saying he is carrying his good. The BMGs in game are not marked especially belonging to a clan or not. Normal players wont have a chance to recognize what you are demanding from them.


    I am here at constant rates - but honestly if you would ask me about which clan has which monopoly then i can only shrug. New players are often not even reading the rules, and then you extent the rules for this monopoly stuff. Imo that wont work properly and invites to quarrel about.


    Back to your question:
    I respect all clans and their being on the server. I am a pirate if you remember so please don't get mad if i am not acting the way you would expect me to act. If i carry a BMG then mostly i would try to escape. Dropping is not an option for me. If you kill me then (i am probably one of the less here) don't care about it. Being shot belongs to the game. Loosing money as well. I don't care. If the money is empty then i start again ;)
    So if you catch me with your monopoly goods then you can warm up your guns - i wont drop it. And as you are cops you can shoot me anyway... Life is easy, isn't it? ;D So generally seen from a pirates view of life - if its monopoly or BMG or both should not care a pirate. We are used to do illegal stuff.

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    While SA wear Police Licenses, they can fine anyone without having punishments or revenge from the victims. Such KoSes will not be tolerated.
    They can Choose to fine or do nothing, at their wish, but they do CAN fine when they want ^^



    Also, when making the first post, I forgot DW said about a go for it... but mainly for the blueprints.



    And AGAIN, for 3rd time... BMGs monopoly are NOT part of server or RP rules Yet. They are a kind of clan rule, and agreement... and if they are broken noone will get banned.... but can fight for the BMGs. Never passing above RP, where BMGs belongs.

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