Crossfire 2.0

Vishnu, don't confuse the games...
This is Crossfire 2.0
And the other thread is Freelancer 2.0

That means, no new engine here.

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Vishnu, don't confuse the games...
This is Crossfire 2.0
And the other thread is Freelancer 2.0

Wait what?

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station building and such stuff

But didn't we planned to build such stuff since before Discovery had it ? It was just too hard for Huor alone on the hook by then.

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with CF1.9 most stuff was rebalanced to have more equal stats
next to that we have specialized ships for special purposes

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thx for the feedback
while some points make sense i disagree with others

e.g. CF not balanced
there is no "best ship" or "best weapon" or "best shield" in CF
with CF1.9 most stuff was rebalanced to have more equal stats
next to that we have specialized ships for special purposes

what i totally agree with is the part about RP
the main problem I see here is that people dont stick to their role and complain too much when stuff does not work as they want

but that is something i can not change.. that can only be changed by the players

station building and such stuff is a feature that we dont have
its exclusive to discovery and nearly no chance to include it

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There is chance of course, if u ever "lower ur self" to that level...

Bases - this is not primary target. i Think you can do similar only in another way. But this is not main for game.
1.you need to do balance with ships (do type of ships!light fighters,fighters,heavy fighters,bombers and ect) and guns,missles,mines and other.and many weapons with pluses and minuses (pebalance all of them)
2.delete some systems,do galactics more compact(players must find one another) as they say in Russian proverb: "less is better".100500 millions systems - dont need.Better do bigger system and more harder for players.
3.RP ships and guns.Liberty ships can use only liberty guns and ect. Rheinland - only rheinland.For this must be some leaders of this houses,which will do diplomaty.Do from sirius 3 -5 ways to other galactics (hide jump holes or ect,for pirates,military,and others plyers,like civilians)
4.give enemy sides for players and their zone influense.
and....you need to see it.

i have some proposition to you OP
For see what im am talking about.Because if we will speak about it - this is will be veryyy looong.
You instaling Discovery and creating char + you coming to us in Team Speak,we have player who good speaking english.We will give you money,ships and you will fly with us,we will show you all differnce.This is will not take many time...but better 1 time to see,than 100 times to hear.
Becuase Crosffire have more potential than disco..i mean story line,graphics and other.But you need to see balance.

So,think about it.We will help.You need it.

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because of lack of active GRs who are willing to bring rules in action and to punish ppl who do the shit at daily bases.One among many reason is "we are old friends..."

On that note, not trying to veer away from the topic, you are correct, i myself can only be on at certain hours, weekends are the best time to see me off and on throughout the day, my problem lies in the time zone

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You instaling Discovery and creating char + you coming to us in Team Speak,we have player who good speaking english.We will give you money,ships and you will fly with us,we will show you all differnce.This is will not take many time...but better 1 time to see,than 100 times to hear.
Becuase Crosffire have more potential than disco..i mean story line,graphics and other.But you need to see balance.

So,think about it.We will help.You need it.

The best thing and proposition i heard about in past few months.

Disguised OP... oh yeah voted for this!

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The best thing and proposition i heard about in past few months.

Disguised OP... oh yeah voted for this!

agreed

The things there are different coz the rules are much more different, you must not say a word in sys chat that is not RP related
Discovery is pretty nice, but the community and people here are much more nice, you won't hear many and hard insults here, there yes

@Cro: That sounds as if we were a happy big family like a town, and Discovery was Manhattan, from New York (you know, a lot of people and a lot of crimes, maifa, etc).

Well, indeed there's a lot more shit on there that even got heard until here, bans of clans, attacks at the server (to crash it), etc...

The ships are technically balanced, as a bit faster ship has less armor than others of it's class...
but everyone would give up on hull for the faster ships, and so that system is not making a ship variation at players, proof of it is that everyone who PvP use one of 3 ships, or even all 3... especially the new Kyushu ship.

Even if a system is correct, if it's not giving the right results, something should be changed sooner or later, as it may not be a first priority topic.

IMHO if someone want to have another balance, why dont you step forward and make your own suggestions, fact based. You have the stats in game, you have the ini files where everyone (able to do) can take out the relevant data. This would save us time to do it on our own, and we can take care of other stuff. So now - who of you guys want to have changes is willed to do these changes and take care of every ship of every class?? --> BTW. We have a dev team. If you feel yourself able to do this stuff of work - think about joining!

@/V\ichael, can you spoiler me which 3 ships you mean? im pretty much sure that i use none of them

Indeed it's a complicated thing OP.

Long ago I suggested making a pack of 7 or 10 ships with the same stats as the known as "top" by then, to give some variations.

Now I would suggest keeping that system, but to have 3 ships exactly the same stats for each agility level, like, 3 titans at 0.95 and 3 sabres at 1, 3 of everything... that wouldn't please everyone but at least would give more options in case most people still go simply for the fastest one ignoring other stats like Armor.

There are plenty of ships to try this suggestion, especially the older ones where some are still very good looking (comparing with the newer ones) but no one ever uses them for being too slow, due to 1 extra turret or bigger cargo or whatever.

There are just too much ships, we should have 20 at all

as i understand this is mean "NO".
ok,i know about calculation,type guns and other.We all this calculate in disco when placing new guns on our ships more than you think,because this is survive factor in battle.We not noobs as you think, I propose only to fly with us,to feel defference in mods.
Anyway,like always im enemy in your eyes,or in eyes of GR,ect... You are big family in game,you have big burocraty in crossfire.If you will not break this - Crossfire will die.(if i say die - this is mean not project,this is mean that nobody will play here.Bad balance > low players>low players>more players will left game to find more "live" place >no players,only GRs)
You even didnt fly with us,to talk that disco wrong.
This is not objective critics.
anyway,good luck.