Server rules and exploits

Quoting the Crossfire server rules is very good.
Totally agree with the your/server rules about manipulating the game to gain an unfair advantage.
Also I admit that destroying trains when empty again and respawn multiple systems away , it is a form of game manipulation and time-saving (I admit i used it too, excuses/justifications here = bullshit ).
Regarding the the handling of the game, using scripts, macros... what about HOTAS/HOMAS/blabla or other kind of HO_mixtures ? It is considered that manipulating the game and get advantages over other players?

- Clan leaders has the ability to re-tag the chars of their clan members.OK.The clan leaders are responsible to ensure that this job is done.Very OK.
About me, I announced all that have joined the clan to delete all untaged chars.From this point, I can not verify the correctness of player or if he has other IDs (or clan leaders would have the possibility to check players according their IP). Or, another sugestion, if it is plausible. Clan leaders can make theirs own clan IDs, with the afferent tag and give to any new joined member. In this way, he has also controlling all clan members IDs and problems like this are eliminated .
And to be more fair to other players or clans, clanleader should/must post all chars in a separate section in the description of that clan on forum(and upload all clan IDs in a saved clan database for validation and check).

Quote from SWAT_OP-R8R

Id like to start this thread with quoting the Crossfire server rules.

You know, thats a rule... not a kind advice or suggestion.
I am aware that some clan members think that this rule does not apply to them. Its actually not even a big deal finding out which clan members have untagged chars or accounts.
This is a violation of server rules and this also is a violation of the RP rules. It is unfair to other players and respectless to those players which try to keep proper roleplay running somehow.

We gave clan leaders the ability to re-tag the chars of their clan members. I hereby make the clan leaders responsible to ensure that this job is done.
People that are in a clan have to wear clan tags on ALL of their chars.

If that is too inconvenient for the clans and their members... no prob... I can also start deleting such chars and accounts.

And now the 2nd topic.
Building clan bases is certainly a nice feature that we introduced for the clans and their members.
Not so nice is when people deliver goods to these stations using trains and then these trains simply get destroyed when empty again, just so they can respawn multiple systems away, ready to load up the next cargo delivery there. This way people dont have to fly back and save 50% travel time.
Problem is: this is a clear exploit...

Which leads me to my next quote of the server rules:

So how do we deal with this exploit?
Do we ban these players or do we downgrade the clan bases again?
Maybe I should notify all other clans and tell them to guard the jumpholes and jumpgates to prevent that any deliveries can pass through (not only via trains).

You can consider this my first and final warning on this matter.
If i find out that people keep doing this shit, consequences will follow (not only for the person using this exploit, also for the clan involved).

Oh, and just a friendly advice.
Dont even dare to come up with any explanations, excuses, justifications or finger pointing. I react very allergical to bullshit.
Thank you.

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I think that this needed to be bumped for some ppl ....

Quote from SWAT_OP-R8R

Id like to start this thread with quoting the Crossfire server rules.

You know, thats a rule... not a kind advice or suggestion.
I am aware that some clan members think that this rule does not apply to them. Its actually not even a big deal finding out which clan members have untagged chars or accounts.
This is a violation of server rules and this also is a violation of the RP rules. It is unfair to other players and respectless to those players which try to keep proper roleplay running somehow.

We gave clan leaders the ability to re-tag the chars of their clan members. I hereby make the clan leaders responsible to ensure that this job is done.
People that are in a clan have to wear clan tags on ALL of their chars.

If that is too inconvenient for the clans and their members... no prob... I can also start deleting such chars and accounts.

And now the 2nd topic.
Building clan bases is certainly a nice feature that we introduced for the clans and their members.
Not so nice is when people deliver goods to these stations using trains and then these trains simply get destroyed when empty again, just so they can respawn multiple systems away, ready to load up the next cargo delivery there. This way people dont have to fly back and save 50% travel time.
Problem is: this is a clear exploit...

Which leads me to my next quote of the server rules:

So how do we deal with this exploit?
Do we ban these players or do we downgrade the clan bases again?
Maybe I should notify all other clans and tell them to guard the jumpholes and jumpgates to prevent that any deliveries can pass through (not only via trains).

You can consider this my first and final warning on this matter.
If i find out that people keep doing this shit, consequences will follow (not only for the person using this exploit, also for the clan involved).

Oh, and just a friendly advice.
Dont even dare to come up with any explanations, excuses, justifications or finger pointing. I react very allergical to bullshit.
Thank you.

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I know I have been gone for nearly a month, and I won't be back until the middle of May, but I'm glad you addressed these issues. Thank you. I know you pay attention to what's going on, and it's about time everyone else realized it. There are certain limitations with this game and the way the mod was created, and it's unfair that some of these limitations are exploited.

I will be honest, I have taken advantage of the "suicide" trick a few times, but not for the building of the base. I will respect the rules and ensure that my clan does as well. Sure, it might take 3 hours to fly across Altair Sector or the Inner Core, but the whole immersion of RP is that WE ARE IN SPACE! Be grateful that there are Jump Gates/Holes and trade lanes!

It's hard enough for my clan because I have been absent, we have only a few members, and I am glad you addressed this issue. Other clans already have an advantage having more members, it's nice to know that all those members can't abuse the "suicide" trick with 10 people 10 times per day and get ahead of everyone else.

I am not singling out anyone or any clan, but OP makes a great point.

As a GR, how am I supposed to determine if a player suicides out? Whether base building or trading AO's. I just gotta watch?

Come discuss into GR internal section.

Come over to the wild, dark side that is the GR corner of the bar

And who is that guy sitting with his back to you in the far corner of the GR corner of the bar, he is wearing an order uniform....could it be ORiLLiON .....returned after his adventures on the other side of the IC BH....which really as it turns out is ACTUALLY just another of the many JHoles through out the universe......check it out......?

Here we go again... Star-streaker, Ninja star torpedo, miscellaneous... :P