FreeLancer 2 By Chris Reberts ??? There's going to be an anoucement on October.

lol on the apple ...copyright yes that's what I ment...let us see what happens

@ MISTER(robert)BROT

Mr. Roberts doesn't have ANY rights on Freelancer. He sold them to microsoft to fund his plans of making his (mediocre at best) films.

Due to this "rights"-stuff there will never be a "Freelancer 2" if not microsoft decides to make one.

(beside the MUCH BETTER STUFF made already by lots of modders, built on Freelancer, even though microsoft never opended the source code
up to the public. OHHHH ! What that could have made possible, can be seen by the Freespace 2 Open, now a game engine capable of things even
the original developers at volition games never thought of to be possible.)

well to give volition and freespace credit and imo it's the best space-action-sim ever created, the game itself has not that hype to save the developers from being bankrupt, therefor volition sold the game code for further developers and i doubt that microsoft will go bankrupt in the future.

you never know...
but like already mentioned Chris Roberts created good stuff... and he also failed badly
His last try to create a computer game was Freelancer and his vision of the game failed so he sold the project and somebody else finished it before it went down the drain.
That is something that people either dont now or forget when they remember other games.

We had other games like Freelancer in the past years and they failed... either Mr. Roberts has a genious idea or he is not better than the other game creators out there.

Following your sayin its neither of both
Lets draw a nice picture - a good scifi scenery - and publish it and say we make a FL follower.

I remember very well what has happened with BP, everything looked so promising and they surely had very good ideas. Now its dead. I think people should calm down a bit and first let him do its work. There will be enough time to feel amazed

yep
problem with high expectations is that the disappointment might be even higher

yeah and i want too see people then with that disappointments posting that much
Where are all these dislike buttons actually? *ROFL*

well, i dont want somebody to fail... but i remain skeptical
I believe the game concept is already done and the only reason to bring up the site is to gain some information and get ideas
on 10th october the official news will be announced and they would do an announcement if they wouldnt know how things will look like

the people which registered on the website have just minimal influence on the games look
the decision about the kind of game is already done... if not then they would have a damn short time to prepare a working concept that they can present

I registered on his website also and I'm now a member. There is a lot of speculation going on and I fear that expectations are set way to high. Let's wait until the official announcement to see what Chris really has in mind. Without a good team and the finances behind him, I'm not putting my hopes up high and rather wait for Crossfire 2.0.
I was also rather put off by the Disco community trying to take over the forum there.

The higher you climb the farther you fall.
That went so with Facebook, with Apple just to name a few recent happenings, i dont need to name that both also come from US
Lets see how his project will develop.

for meanwhile 3 days i ask myself if i should open a thread there that practically deals with all the so far done suggestions and wishes
and i am not sure if that actually would be a good idea

I would desillusionate most of the people over there with the things that I have to say
I could name the wishes which are totally unimportant for a good game (use of hardware that nearly nobody uses -> VR devices)... compare the wishes which conflict each other (such as large, free systems vs. player interactions -> not possible) and ask unconfortable questions why these developers (which obviously missed 10 years of genre history) are better than other developers which had the the experience to create successful games.

It would be clearly a very long post... and i am sure that I would get the attention of the developers (in this case the ben lesnick which takes care of the forum -> while i dont expect that chris roberts ever will show up there.) BUT I also will catch the hate of fan boys and dreamers that have no sense of realism.

Lets face it... they could create the most detailed space game ever.... BUT the data has to go from the servers through the net to the clients and back. The more details... the more data... the more traffic and the more lag you get. This is an undeniable truth that even with modern PC can not be handled.... and it is one reason why games like black prophecy failed.

Chris Roberts is a great developer which did remarkable things... that is sure. But he is no magician.
Next to that he created games at a time where ever new idea was revolutionary. Today every idea has already existed before. It will be hard to create something that others did not think of yet.

I have no clue what goes on there over in their forum. But I believe you will again get much attention of all those people that have bad relations with you. When i see the posts on TSP for example then i believe you will at least have nearly the entire TSP staff against you. And somehow it would not good to fall again into quarrels with them. And i believe they will not be the only ones. Anyway good questions can be asked. And without being rude you could ask the one or other question I mean with not so hard words

there we have our problem again... me and not using hard words (thats a conflict in itself)^^

You could just ask:

How are the game physics intent to be?
Might network bandwith play a big role for the game?
What are the least requirements (hardware related) to play this game?

Just some questions without going to much into detail^^ Anyway even questions from your side might throw a jealous watch over you^^

i wouldnt expect an answer... and actually i am not in need of answers for myself

I also registered on this site and now I feel as if i have cheated on my wife..

tbh, i feel Roberts wont be able to to create anything better than Freelancer/Crossfire.
As you said OP, more graphic's ( eye candy ) = more bandwidth = serious bad lag.

But with that said, i don't feel that he could improve making a better Freelancer with
its current game engine??

Everything has been done, from Elite, Starlancer, X, to Freelancer.
The only way forward to be honest, is Mods, add-ons, to further expand the game genre.

If Chris Roberts were to do Freelancer 2, then it would be a Mod, or an Add-on for Wing Commander.
He was a great bloke back in the day ( and most prob still is ) but i feel its time to let the new breed
of Visionarys continue this type of space sim, AKA OP, Gibbon etc etc..

Just my 2 pennies worth.

Cygna

Let's just wait and see until the official announcment. I personaly don't put my hopes up to far. A new game requires a new engine, dedication, a good team and tons of money. Not to mention the years of development and testing. And to be honest, Chris is not really known to see thing to the end when it concerns games. No offence intended.
I rather carry on playing my usual mods and wait for Crossfire 2.0.

I know don't remind me but here is another high hopes idea which probably won't come....but I did smile a little bit when this idea came over...maybe a combination between a upgraded wing commander /freelancer combination where all carakters and game play combined together........................ok .... unrealistic....was just a thought

Ya, what I replied at Bot's thread about RSI... looks epic =)

And he's the founder of Digital Anvil... the stuff on his site is interesting. And the Freelancer forum part too

I just hope what ever is planned weather forum has an influence or not that it isn't a total crash and burn.... that would be unforchunate .