Next Hook Features...

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and Michael, please...for the love of all that is Holy. make a Battlecruiser (bigger than Battleship...) because a battlecruiser of sheer size would definitely keep my Napoleon Complex quiet for a long time

I may also have that complex... but there is a limitation.

Before Disco had something barely similar:
Both battlestation and battlecruiser ideas (with full set of details like movement limitations, cameras, command/control room, loadouts, etc) have been denied by OP, for too much work or seeing some problem at it I haven't (as I though at/checked FL Engine compatibility), not sure. First was the battlestation one, and much later(not long ago), the battlecruiser one.
I won't build/help bulding something that won't be used in this mod (which is the only one I help), because it would be the second time I do this.

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my point is you play and complain about people not playing.

as for the point of the thread, keep it relevent *cough* Gunny *cough*

My point is quite relevant. You give, you get. And I do play almost daily, so I can comment as I see fit, if people aren't participating.

I appreciate what Huor is trying to do, but we have enough tools we don't use already. Then for him to try new things, that take time to work and perfect, people can't wait and will start complaining that it takes too long.

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- tax / fine user command for pirates and coppers

This is terrible and would certainly create an avalanche of complaints as soon as it is used.

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- in game award system

Useful for events? Other than that, I don't see the purpose...

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- trade calculator

NO! Half the work is finding the right route (for all RPs).

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- online asf/csf score table

That could be useful, to check out the system's ownership and stuff

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- tax / fine user command for pirates and coppers

I love this idea! If it has some boundaries like a fine/tax cap per levels, and the two hour rule, this would be a great tool to have, and it keeps people from breaking the law/rules.

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- in game award system

Perfect! Achievement type things like on the website! Getting a # of kills, fines, taxes, and victories in events, would be awesome, not trying to push you, just thinking out loud

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- trade calculator

Can you emphasizes? If you mean a list of possible trade routes? If so it should be limited to containers because like shockwave said, half of the work is to find the routes yourself. If it is an in-game calculator to calculate profits... then yup

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- online asf/csf score table

Ahem, ahem, as CSF commander I would love to see this!!!

Also if I may ask, is it possible to do the tax/fine thing for mercs? Like let them have a place where they can put a contracts, that the/a merc gets paid per kill? Just asking :), but a great, awesome, amazing job nonetheless!! Thanks Huor!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the tax/fine command was proposed to me and in the way it was explained it sounded reasonable, therefore i forwarded it to huor
you may consider it not necessary but i see it a good addition to the two RP factions which are not supported by the hook yet

furthermore i see it a good way to get RP done by preventing that people escape RP this way
these commands are only active in range of a player and that player has 3 options... pay... run... or fight
how you "convince" your opponent is your own choice

about the other features i cant say much
however i share gunnys opinion that we meanwhile have more than enough and that there are more important issues to deal with

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- tax / fine user command for pirates and coppers
- in game award system
- trade calculator
- online asf/csf score table

I think the fine/tax would be a good idea, but only if it was done right. I would do it like they can set the player and amount, and it is either accepted or denied by the target player, and the amount is automatically deducted if accepted.

I like the awards system system, because it would be a good way for people to show off their accomplishments(and maybe get awards/items for certain awards/multiples of awards?)

Please explain what you mean by trade calculator, I am not exactly sure what you mean.

The ASF/CSF would be a good thing, mainly for bragging rights in my opinion :p

Trade calculator is a tool that ... calculates the trade routes and simply gives you a list of the most profitable routes with all the details on profit, where to buy/sell, etc, making all the "thinking" job in your place.

I wonder who was you/Griffin "warning" now... warning OP ? the last posts were totally on topic. Well, nvm...

I read and thought....In general

So, I don't see any benefit in a cop/pirate fine/tax thing (I have no idea how it could be presented in a reasonable manor that would help RP)

Awards system....hmm, maybe it could be something that does tie in with many of the things you guys have been implementing/trying

Trade calculator ...Isn't it the responsability of the trading clans to know the profitable routes? ....and by extension, the pirates to know where to go taxing and the cops to look for such actions as smuggling and piracy?

Before there was online update of the asf/csf battle progress.....or do you mean the ability to check while ingame?

I just saved Huor many hours of developement so he can play more and OP gets time saved too

I should probably make a thread about that...

Anyways, I still like all of them, except the trade calc. Takes the work out of it :p

when im reading the suggestions about the new rp-thing, i think of something like, for example, the Junkers do if they want cargo/loot:
they open a chat, saying that they want something and immediately a window pops up with info about the pilot and what he wants *Commodity X (Amount Y)* with the options whether to give him the cargo or to fight...
maybe now if this would be possible it can be arranged for the specific rp-type as well. it creates a new type of rp-situation, though if someone tries to flee, then open fire - clearly
i hope you guys understand what i mean cause my english is terrible now im so tired lol

I meant it automatically deducts it if the person getting fined/taxed clicks yes, if not it turns to a fight :p

I do see Rex's point especially as far as new players go (and, wow really, wouldn't people be able to make choices where to sell stuff with updated info?). And having static trade routes for so long seems odd since I have seen other times when this wasn't the case. TBH I have no idea why dynamic economy hasn't been around so long but it must cause issues that people got tired of? Currently I can look in cargo hold and figure where is best place to take my cargo (rarely happens that I have cargo)....it's called...searched and have mapped^^

IMO please stop trying to make everything for people that just want an easy trip.......that's not why I ever started playing the CF mod in the first place.

If we get something similar to a trade route calculator, then we also need the fine/tax one Else people would be slippery to justice, or pirate horrors.

the trade calculator might be a bit too much (dunno)
but i see a good use for the tax and fine commands in an environment where we have more than enough people which simply evade by getting killed

Idk people but one thing amaze me, and this is how the fuck u can comment about something which u don't know how it will work to the end? When it comes about fine/tax for example) lol OP nicely said: As it was represented to him...not to us

Second,

Any of u use cloak?..let me explain why imo

Dev team in conversation, early morning hours, somewhere in CF Universe ...

Omg we must restrict this fuckin feature "Hmpphh let me see...yes, 3 sec of cloak then 26 days of cooldown...wait NO! 29 days and 23 hours of cooldown...hey wait, STOP STOP... What are we talking about?Do they deserve that after all?
Hmmm...
Pffft...
Hmpph...

Ok, we will give them this beautiful feature, but this is a very last time..ok guys?

Yes!
Yes!
Yes!

ok now listen to me, Cooldown 72 days or nothing, and for now cloak will last for 3sec later we will gradually decrease this time as we see fit!
Otherwise ppl will abuse this, Just to remind you guys, my word is final!
Now you can vote...
yes
yes
yes but...

#$%? Hmm not that bad, but i think we must hide those crystals even better and make them totally unusable that way..what you say guys? (short pause)
Hmmm i say, make them perishable!Yes make those damn crystals like perishable! (with genius like mad smile on his face)
After short pause...

StAnDiNG ovations!

Yes, yes man...That's it!
MAKE THEM PERISHABLE!
Ohh what a fun, that's my boy! Hey wait...i can't can't believe OMG, OMG New DImension of RP! outstanding feature in FL ever!Did i ever told you? You are such a genie!Oh God ty God (no matter i don't believe in you-no offense i mean, but ty;))
Ok guys that's all for now, well done and cya tomorrow!

Cya
night
yea..hell of the job ...night guys

Now, only 2 of them stay awake ...

1.What you think, how fast?
2.What?
1.I mean, before they disappear-perish from cargo?
2. Ah i see, the shorter the better, but it will be a surprise
1. I knew it, u are da man!
...

Now, back to the topic (did i ever go away?)

Third and far most important imo

people leaves the server?
Why?
This is the question we need to discuss asap, cos new mod will only attract some new ppl and bring back some vets temporary and then they will leave the server with words" Ohh such amazing graphic and stuff, and nice features, but we can't really use them due to paranoid restriction policy"

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the tax/fine command was proposed to me

It was proposed not represented (not the same thing), and of course, if you want to change something you go to the leaders, not to the members. As if asking the kids in a school class so that their teacher puts them better marks, instead of asking the teacher himself.

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but we can't really use them due to paranoid restriction policy

I seen something else that could use that adjective here...

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when im reading the suggestions about the new rp-thing, i think of something like, for example, the Junkers do if they want cargo/loot:
they open a chat, saying that they want something and immediately a window pops up with info about the pilot and what he wants *Commodity X (Amount Y)* with the options whether to give him the cargo or to fight...
maybe now if this would be possible it can be arranged for the specific rp-type as well. it creates a new type of rp-situation, though if someone tries to flee, then open fire - clearly
i hope you guys understand what i mean cause my english is terrible now im so tired lol

That would be an good idea indeed! But think its not that easy to make.