Meeting log 7th april 2010

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Riebens:
hi
(19:44:52)
Riebens:
I changed my colour on the colourpicker
(19:45:03)
Riebens:
now it shows the name in yellow
(19:45:15)
Crysis:
hm, I just did too
(19:45:25)
Riebens:
cool now you are blue
(19:45:34)
Crysis:
now it's a nicer blue
(19:45:35)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
ok good
(19:45:44)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
that makes stuff easier
(19:46:18)
Riebens:
except for the ghost still with his name in black
(19:46:31)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
hopefully not too many people will have a problem with the chat
(19:46:38)
Crysis:
yep ... if I remained with the black one, I couldn't see my name though
(19:46:50)
Crysis:
well, that chat is awesome OP
(19:46:50)
Riebens:
I had to load ff specially for this chat ...
(19:47:11)
Riebens:
but it is great ... I like it
(19:47:19)
Crysis:
you and me both
(19:48:15)
Crysis:
the official meeting is in an hour right?
(19:48:28)
Lost_Heaven
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Riebens:
I thought in 12 minutes ...??
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Crysis:
yo ... well, that's why I am asking ^
(19:49:03)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
12 mins
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Crysis:
cuz if it's on the server's hour, I am 2 hours ahead ... with other words, GMT +2
(19:49:19)
Riebens:

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Riebens:
crysis . .ditto
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Crysis:
hehe, good then ^
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Drale
entered the chat
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Crysis:
ditto?
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Drale:
Greetings
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Riebens:
ditto = the same
(19:49:51)
Crysis:
yo bro
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Crysis:
aha
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Riebens:
hi
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Riebens
entered the chat
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Riebens:
second time it crashed on me
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Crysis:
o? ... it never did to me though
(19:50:46)
Drale:

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Drale:
what a smiley
(19:51:00)
Riebens:
'error loading the message- pls reload the chat'
(19:51:27)
Crysis:
LOL Spiky at Shock's post
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Spiky-
entered the chat
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Spiky-:
RickRoll'D
- YouTube
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Crysis:
yo nub
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[BC]afGun
entered the chat
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SWAT_OP-R8R
entered the chat
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Drale:
you had to do that, didn't you?
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Drale:

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Spiky-:
Yes
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Spiky-:
what the fuck is that post by Shock
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Lost_Heaven
left the chat
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Spiky-:
my eyes
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Crysis:
ofc he had to ;d ... btw , what happened with Shock Drale?
(19:53:18)
Crysis:
guess I missed the fun -_-
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Drale:
Haven't read it
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Drale:
as soon as i have saw it, closed it immediately
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[BC]afGun:
hello world
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Crysis:
I just read the names of the CFPDs and the "broken" tail of Shock
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Lost_Heaven
entered the chat
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Drale:
Hi
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Spiky-:
pro tip: uncheck Notify
(19:54:08)
Crysis:
yo
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Drale:
I just checked it
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Crysis:
What does it notify for?
(19:54:31)
Spiky-:
is there a command to mute people?
(19:54:42)
Spiky-:
so I can mute Michael.
(19:54:45)
Drale:
Your tab blinks when new message appers
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Drale:
*appears
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Crysis:
aha, nice ... and LOL spiky
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SA_Raiden
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Drale:
haha, mute
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
ahh... and there is the default color
(19:55:39)
Drale:
Some of the names are black for me
(19:55:47)
Drale:
hard to see
(19:55:53)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
not anymore
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Riebens:
they will go to hell
(19:56:01)
Spiky-:
wow so racist
(19:56:06)
Spiky-:
you don't like black, do you?
(19:56:08)
Riebens:
lol
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Drale:
hahah
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
jackson like
(19:56:21)
Drale:
that wasn't my intension, you...
(19:56:25)
SA_Raiden:
hi everyone
(19:56:27)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
from black to white
(19:56:31)
Riebens:
drale sorry ... about your iwo juma defence
(19:56:32)
Crysis:
the default color fits perfectly though
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Crysis:
and hoi
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Drale:
Hi
(19:56:46)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
with other words, you are stars now
(19:56:46)
Drale:
Riebens, what about it?
(19:56:52)
Drale:
Played it only once
(19:56:56)
Riebens:
i beat you .. just
(19:57:16)
Riebens:
it's a flipping nice game .. en it hooks you
(19:57:42)
Drale:
It's interesting
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Drale:
brb
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Riebens:
I see there are 3 plays on it how ...
(19:58:40)
Riebens:
Raiden...other SA coming ?
(19:58:51)
SA_Raiden:
i am not sure
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Spiky-:
does the chat scroll automatically down when you want to scroll up for anyone else ?
(19:59:15)
Crysis:
yep , it does
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Crysis:
(at least for me)
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Riebens:
yes
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Lost_Heaven:
uncheck scroll
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Spiky-:
scumbag SWAT chat
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Spiky-:
didn't even see that
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Crysis:
lol ... and thanks Lost
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Spiky-:
why we no use IRC? I miss making headlines
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[BC]afGun:
mirc...
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Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon)
entered the chat
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Spiky-:
bitch please
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Riebens:

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Drale:
haha
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Crysis:
Mirc sucks
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Riebens:

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Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
good evening to all
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
because i was too lazy setting up a IRC channel
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Spiky-:
no ti doesn't
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Drale:
Crysis, and why is that?
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SA_Raiden:
hi
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Spiky-:
you suck because you don't know how to use IRC
(20:00:46)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
all our previous channels are gone
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Crysis:
cuz it does
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Drale:
lol
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Drale:
I'm using mirc always
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Drale:
and i like it
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Riebens:
hi forlon
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Crysis:
aaa spiky
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Crysis:
change your color -_-
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Drale:
Hi forlon
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
SWAT has a 2nd chat but its not ready to use yet
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[BC]afGun:
Irc... mirc...I was looong time ago... hehe
(20:01:46)
Drale:
what's the difference?
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Spiky-:
hey op were you one of these A/S/L people 10 years ago when everyone went on mIRC to get laid?
(20:01:51)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
and since this is supposed to be a short meeting it will be good enough
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[BC]afGun:
*it
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Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
color better?
(20:02:13)
Crysis:
well, this chat is pretty good
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Crysis:
and hoi forlon
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Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
hi
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
10 years ago i shot people with my shroud
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
didnt matter what they were
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Spiky-:
close enough
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Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
you still can
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[BC]afGun:
but the aoutomatic scrolling is annoying sometemimes... can't read some previous text...
(20:03:52)
Crysis:
then disable it and scroll down manually
(20:04:03)
[BC]afGun:
o.. i fint it. Now i'm happy
(20:04:16)
Crysis:
I use it on automatic though ... (rock on)
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Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):

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Spiky-:
it's more annoying when you uncheck it because it does not scroll down anymore
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Spiky-:

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[BC]afGun:
agree
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Drale:

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Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
... this smile fit me well (I guess
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[BC]afGun:
hehe...
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Riebens:

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Spiky-:
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself Gunny in real life
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Crysis:
lol, I was about to post Michael's one ( SPAM )
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Crysis:
but it's not here
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Drale
left the chat
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Riebens:
outch .. showing my age
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Lost_Heaven:
and let the spaming begin...
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Drale
entered the chat
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Riebens
left the chat
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SA_Raiden
left the chat
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Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
btw is possible open chat in separate window?
(20:06:32)
Lost_Heaven:
yes
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Drale:
hm, it just crashed on me too
(20:06:35)
Spiky-:
I thought the purpose of this chat was to spam?
(20:06:47)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
not only on you
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Riebens
entered the chat
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SA_Raiden
entered the chat
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Riebens:
ditto to the crash
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Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
(how to open chat in own window
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
so well... lets make it quick then
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Riebens
entered the chat
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Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
k (spam off)
(20:07:51)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
meeting should have started 7mins ago so we simply get it going now
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
1. Server situation...
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
you guys are best to tell me if the last few weeks brought some positive changes
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Marauder
entered the chat
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
so im listening...
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Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
imo yes (and Hi Mara)
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[BC]afGun:
Sorry. What kind of changes we talking about?
(20:10:40)
Riebens:
there was definitely a shift in the amount of BS around ... a lot less and that makes the server and forum nicer
(20:10:44)
Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
Rules (and PX ban .. I guess)
(20:10:48)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
gameplay/rp/fun
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Drale:
I think that situation is better on server now(for now)
(20:11:25)
Crysis:
yep .. except that some of the PXs are using undercovered chars(freelancers) and work with the mercs again against all cops
(20:11:28)
[BC]afGun:
Well... som destructive matter is off. Now the way to fun is clear.
(20:11:31)
Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
rp is much funnier and hope more pirates with good beahvior as in last time
(20:11:33)
Crysis:
everything else has been much better
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Drale:
People actually play RP
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Crysis:
the only prob is that the recruitment should begin .. for all inactive clans
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(IOC)Shogun
entered the chat
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Crysis:
there are plenty of freelancers that are available to be recruited
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(IOC)Shogun:
Good evening
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[BC]afGun:
Some about recruitment. Can I ask some quesrion?
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Crysis:
yo brat
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
i agree, recruitment is important
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Riebens:
I may be wrong but there always seems to be people on the server now ... not like before sometimes just 1 or 2
(20:12:57)
(IOC)Shogun:
Apologies I'm late
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
and we actually have to fill a gap now that px is gone
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Crysis:
so, once it gets started ... it should increase the RP in the server
(20:13:06)
Drale:
One of the things that prevents RP to be better is that "container run"
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Crysis:
also
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Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
why?
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Crysis:
the containers are a huge exploit
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Riebens:
yes.. pls scratch the container run ...
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(IOC)Shogun:
Let me buy a battleship first, would you>?
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(IOC)Shogun:

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Crysis:
that decreases the chance of pirates to tax and the police to catch BMGs and such
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Riebens:
just better economy adjustment for some items prices
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Drale:
because everybody is doing container runs
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Crysis:
yes, precisly
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Drale:
and smugglers are without attention
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
ok
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(IOC)Shogun:
folks, we need the dynamic economy first
(20:14:34)
Drale:
it got to the point where only police and pirate RP is active(almost)
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Riebens:
the original problem was that JUST BMG had good values ...
(20:14:47)
Crysis:
yep, then we should really get started with recruitments , those clans which need it
(20:14:48)
Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
hmm ... if is trade normal items almost 0 bcs differetn space usage ...
(20:14:52)
Crysis:
(mostly inactive)
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[BC]afGun:
We have some problems with recruitment mostly becouse of language... I saw many russians bot only some of them speaking wbglish. So only the russian asking in system chat can their attention. Can we recruit in russian sometimes?
(20:14:56)
(IOC)Shogun:
that is true, last night I was forced to just watch the fight
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
there is dynamic economy already
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Crysis:
and the RP should increase dramaticly afterwards
(20:15:21)
(IOC)Shogun:
We have Russian in IOC'
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Riebens:
lots of non-english speakers on system
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Drale:
yeah, BMG runs would restore life to smugglers RP
(20:15:50)
[BC]afGun:
And we have. Many english speaking russians are already in clans
(20:15:58)
Riebens:
cool
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Crysis:
also
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[BC]afGun:
Only non-speaking remain
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
if you dont spam the chat you can for sure say a few lines in other languages
(20:16:24)
Riebens:
thanks
(20:16:30)
Crysis:
most of the russians don't know english ... should it be better if we put some of the rules' translations in New York? in each language?
(20:16:31)
[BC]afGun:
Thanks
(20:16:44)
Drale:
that would be huge
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Crysis:
heh, just proposed
(20:17:03)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
rules translations might be tricky ingame
(20:17:25)
[BC]afGun:
But clanrules before the jumbgates - it would be nice
(20:17:25)
(IOC)Shogun:
indeed, they should learn the rules while playing, not just theory, if you know what I mean
(20:17:26)
Riebens:
private chats ingame always sort out rules problems
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Crysis:
or perhaps a script ... that translate the language into their language
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
however... i am glad to hear that the situation is getting better on the server
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(IOC)Shogun:
that is indeed true
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Riebens:
yes thanks
(20:18:00)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
you wont see clan rules ingame
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Marauder
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Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
can I return to gods space usage? ... most of trade and especially mining is almost useles now
(20:18:17)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
im not going to release an update everytime you do adjustments
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
seriously for that we have the forum
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Guest_6151
entered the chat
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Information
Open Chat Room for all members
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Crysis:
well, is a language script(that translate eng/or other to their own language) possible?
(20:18:43)
Drale:
there are also more people online i think... i've saw 38 once i think, which i didn't saw until now in all this time i'm playing
(20:19:02)
(IOC)Shogun:
I support OP on this one. May I ask what's wrong with the mining? I remember that it was introduced in 1.9, but never seen a miner actually
(20:19:10)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
dunno
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Riebens:
there were a few times in the high 40's
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[BC]afGun:
Ok, just asked. We usualy rarely changing anything like clan-rules...
(20:19:27)
Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
bcs you can have almost zero profit with mining
(20:19:29)
(IOC)Shogun:
afGun, we actually do sometimes
(20:19:29)
Crysis:
hm.. is the google translation script open-source?
(20:19:30)
Riebens:
miner need support ?
(20:19:31)
Drale:
And yes, good question
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Crysis:
if it is ... it may actually work
(20:20:10)
(IOC)Shogun:
I'd gladly mine to be honest, sounds fun
(20:20:18)
(IOC)Shogun:
but if there's no profit, of course I wont do it
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(IOC)Shogun:
just a side thought
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Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
For example soulforge train (biggest cargo) cam have 800 diamonds or niobium
(20:20:40)
[BC]afGun:
well... too frequent updating of the rules is also not correctm omho, Shogun
(20:20:43)
Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
price cca 1900 ppu
(20:21:03)
Drale:
mining was cool in 1.8, and i thought that with mining ship would be even better... But it's not unfortunately...
(20:21:07)
Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
count time needed to go to some base ... uff, no way
(20:21:07)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
mining is profitable if you would do it in teams and a few trains
(20:21:11)
(IOC)Shogun:
True, afGun, but this depends on the clans and we can do nothing about it
(20:21:21)
Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
OP it is not
(20:21:33)
Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
sry I opose but if you count time ... no
(20:21:40)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
it is
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Riebens:
mining in clan teams also my thought but need to have better ppu then
(20:21:52)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
you can fill trains with the stuff from the mega roids
(20:22:17)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
however... thats not the topic
(20:22:17)
Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
yes ... but you need time to go to base and back
(20:22:36)
Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
and this is main time factor in most cases
(20:22:38)
(IOC)Shogun:
yes, that's was my next question - what's the topic?
(20:22:59)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
current server situation
(20:23:01)
Riebens:
soultrain and vhf mnining together in omnicron was fun
(20:23:08)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
and i am glad that things are getting better
(20:23:30)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
which proves that my decision was not entirely wrong
(20:23:38)
(IOC)Shogun:
we need someone to fill the mercs hole, that's for sure
(20:23:48)
Crysis:
-> IOC
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Riebens:
saw bounties today
(20:23:57)
Spiky-:
sidequestion: why is the ASF/CSF counter not working (i.e. updating) ?
(20:23:57)
Crysis:
oh wait, you changed your RP
(20:24:01)
Drale:
they re smugg
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Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
what I little miss in RP is that ppl not want use mercs (bcs think they expensive? ... dunno)
(20:24:19)
Drale:
i got bounty now when i logged in
(20:24:22)
Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
or not want use them more often
(20:24:27)
Riebens:
cool
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(IOC)Shogun
entered the chat
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Crysis:
no Forlon , it's because the vets are mostly fighting and have enough ppl on their side
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Crysis:
( I guess )
(20:24:56)
Riebens:
yes agre with crysis
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
im sure the gap can get filled soon
(20:25:06)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
maybe remaining PX will do
(20:25:16)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
maybe PX will leave completely
(20:25:22)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
dunno atm
(20:25:25)
Drale:
well, some of them are freelancing as a pirates now
(20:25:27)
(IOC)Shogun:
I hope so, I'm looking forward to IOC working on the smugglers RP
(20:25:28)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
they have a new server
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Drale:
not mercs
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Crysis:
I don't think they will
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
time will tell if they succeed
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Crysis:
yeah ... I also heard that from my colleague (proto)
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Drale:
their own server?
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Crysis:
yeah ... Daywalker made his own server
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(IOC)Shogun:
what's the point?
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
maybe it will take some time for them to realize that you can not RP with 2 players online
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Crysis:
I heard that he made just 5 new systems and some other small changes and that's it
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Drale:
with crossfire mod?
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Drale:
Is that allowed?
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Riebens:
JUST PX
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(IOC)Shogun:
^ exactly my point
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Crysis:
no, not a CF one
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Crysis:
a vanilia one I think
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(IOC)Shogun:
probably 88 flak or vanilla
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
the point is that DW wanted to replace me and now he has his own server to play admin
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Riebens:
good for him... now we can move on
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Drale:
doubt that it will succeed
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
i told you... its all about powers
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Crysis:
no doubt that he left CFPD and made PX under everyone's back (especily mine)
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(IOC)Shogun:
can we leave the PX question in the past and work on the present moment?
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[BC]afGun:
It's his right. Who knows, heir could succceed. We also had own server long time ago... befor hardware crash
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Spiky-:
btw did you notice the /v/lancer server? Lawl.
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Crysis:
aaa, no
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Drale:
wtf?
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
long time ago... is long time ago
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(IOC)Shogun:
vlancer?
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Spiky-:
is it?
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Spiky-:
just saw it lately; was empty
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
today its hard to set up a new server and make it successful
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[BC]afGun:
But it was.
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[BC]afGun:
Well. I know.
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(IOC)Shogun:
guys, may I ask a quick question?
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
but ok... everybody has the right to make a mistake
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Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
go
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
sure
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Crysis:
ofc brat
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(IOC)Shogun:
bloody chat!
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Cresthen
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Drale:
One thing i can't understand, maybe i'm noob with that sort of things but... People are saying that for example Disco runs smoothly with 150+ people onboard, and we have crashes sometimes even with 5-10 people online...
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Spiky-:
didn't you know? the game runs on a 800mhz 15 year old PC
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(IOC)Shogun:
can we all set goals in front of us as clans and decide what we could do for the good of the server? For example: recruiting people, developing RP in that in that area, deciding what needs to be changed (if possible) etc.
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Spiky-:
server*
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Cresthen:
Greetings to all...
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[BC]afGun:
600 mhz?!
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[BC]afGun:
*800
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Spiky-:
800
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Crysis:
yep , I think we should discuss that now
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
howdy
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Riebens:
hey .. I still have a 16 mhz 8086 laying around if you need it
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Crysis:
and ahoy Cresthen
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(IOC)Shogun:
greetings Cresh
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Spiky-:
sup
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
reason = 3 gb difference in size
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[BC]afGun:
Cretnen: hi
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Drale:
Hi cresthen
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(IOC)Shogun:
Okay, in of his posts OP mention to force RP on the freelancer - pirates, cops decide how to do that
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Drale:

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Crysis:
oh? we? o_O
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Spiky-:
one does not simply force RP on people who barely speak english
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Riebens:
killing them seemt to teach english fast
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(IOC)Shogun:
there are a lot of freelancers who speak English just as fine, mate
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[BC]afGun:
Riebens: i dont think so
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Riebens:
trust me .. it does
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Crysis:
yes, that 's why I proposed the Script that automatically translate the eng/or other into their own language (if it's possible)
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Spiky-:
OP should include the Vodka commodity; that would generate a lot of RP with the Russian player base
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Spiky-:

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Crysis:
perhaps the google translator ... if it's freeware
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/V\ichael:

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(IOC)Shogun:
just a quick heads up - my chat keeps on freezing and I have to refresh, I may miss your replies, sorry
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[BC]afGun:
Riebens: some of the can become agressive if they will not understand your intentions actions...
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
forcing rp would require to finish a few server side features
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
such as the tax/fine commands
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Riebens:
no reply yet
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Spiky-:
how the hell do you plan on adding that command properly
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
but i doubt huor will work on this anytime soon
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Drale:
Op, well, i s there a solution for that? Can server be more stable?
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(IOC)Shogun:
you got a simple chat message saying "tax 1 mil" and a few guns equipped
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
well i was told that on another server such a feature does already exist
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Riebens:
afgun...always works when peopel ignore you .. but yes.. sometimes unintended results
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[BC]afGun:
Spoky: Not only voda is the russian national drink
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[BC]afGun:
*spiky
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[BC]afGun:
too dark in my room... sorry...
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
Drale... server is generally pretty stable
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
however in the past 2 weeks it went somewhat loco and i was not able to find a reason
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Riebens:
the last week or so was bad conenctions
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Riebens:
ah ..
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Drale:
well sometimes it runs perfectly
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
afterall no updates were done and the crashes could not be linked to corrupted chars
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Drale:
and sometimes crashes 3 times in 10 minutes, like
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/V\ichael:
could it be caused by client sided conflicts ?
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
my first thought was that it might have something to do with the recent bans .... and some kind of revenge
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Crysis:
hmm... perhaps we can avoid the crashing chars with some kind of a warning when you're closely to the limit(items/money)?
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Riebens:
DOS on the ip address ?
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
but i could not prove that
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Drale:
Is there a way to force the players to restart the whole game and not just join right after crash?
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
no ddos
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(IOC)Shogun:
system messages online?
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Riebens:
cool
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
actually its enough to edit a few files on the client side to crash a server
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
and since DW always claimed to know how to do such stuff
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
there is no way to force players to restart
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Riebens:
is there a ping limitation (high ping) with auto kick ?
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Crysis:
then can you lock them for editingif it's possible)
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
and actually this is not needed
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Drale:
But in that case i think you should be able to see who's doing that?
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[BC]afGun:
its a very bad weak point... few files...
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/V\ichael:
so it's nto needed anymore
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
the only time that players have to restart is in the morning hours after the daily restart
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Drale:
in logs or something
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/V\ichael:
Which is the restart hour in server time, OP ?
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
its no way to see who is responsible for such stuff
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/V\ichael:
daily restart hour*
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Riebens:
generating stats does not affect server ??
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Riebens:
or is all that swithced off ?
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
7am german time
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/V\ichael:
thx
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(IOC)Shogun:
8 am my time
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(IOC)Shogun:
thx
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
stats are only generated while the daily restarts are done
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Riebens:
ok
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Crysis:
are they edit the CF files only so they can crash the server not the FL ones )
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Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
then crashes in European evening are never due ppl not restart
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Riebens:
rules that out
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
right... crashes must have a different source
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
and in the past 2 weeks they were very frequent (without any known reason)
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Drale:
one just happened prior to this meeting
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Riebens:
well I have crashed a lot . .and the server is fine .. so i asumed it was mismatch on udp traffic
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/V\ichael:
OP, counting that a client CF can also damage the server (lag, etc) instead of directly crashing it, would it be noticed by a GR by checking ping/loss/fluct ?
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Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
hmmm ... just idea: is possible separeate IDs which want log but stay on CF almost zero time?
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
no, until the crash you notice nothing
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
and the crash does not appear in the logs
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[BC]afGun:
Well... i think the server just need to be upgraded.. if the spiky's info was correct... may it will not solve some problems but at least reduse the lags every event time...
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Riebens:
so it could be the Operating sytem affectign CF server ?
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Corynthos:
It 8 pm yet?
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Spiky-:
I was kidding afGun.
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Riebens:
depends on where you are in the world .. lol
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
a server upgrade is planned... but can not be done without a new launcher version
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/V\ichael:
hmm, if that's so, (about the crash not appearing in the logs) we could make lists of IPs before each crash and use the elimination process to find out if somebody is provoking them
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(IOC)Shogun:
OP, I have a side question - I find it nearly impossible to find good BMGs, I mean, back in 1.8 you could find a lot of cheap BMGs almost everywhere. Is there a change in the dynamic economy?
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Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
OP: you can have list of all IDS logins to server and how long are they used?
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[BC]afGun:
Spiky: you're troll
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Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
(after log in)
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
the dynamic economy had to be rebuild
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
every server connection is being logged
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(IOC)Shogun:
It will take me forever to get used to a new trade route then ..
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
but its close to impossible to tell which one crashed the server if you can not link something directly to the crash
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Riebens:
every day brings new exciting trade routes
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Drale:
NO it's not, it brings just one that's exciting. NT->NB, NB->NT container run
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(IOC)Shogun:
Drale said it.
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Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
If anyone crash server ... he logs only for this .. so those IDs will be in game almost 0 time. but always regualrly in main server time
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Riebens:
that's not exciting .. unless you fly into planet while watching porn
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
but ok... you wanted to discuss something clan related if i recall correctly
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/V\ichael:
you are the only one who can see when a crash is logged or not, so using the lists we give, you can see who coincides at every provoked crash. But first we should see if such provoked crashes appear, as it's possible to be a waste of time.
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Drale:
it is exciting if you count number of players there
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Crysis:
I think we should begin discussing the topics one by one ... it'll be easier
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/V\ichael:
yeah Crys
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Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
about clans: ... will be nice have updated and actual info on server page
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Drale:
most of the fights are there, due to all of them "trading" there, and that way smugglers are ruled out from RP
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Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
and best automaticaly updated from forum
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
yes... will be nice to have updated info at hands so i can put them on server page
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
i wanted to inject that info from the community groups
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Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
@OP: tell how you need clan data and you will have it
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Vishnu:
Hope im not late?
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
but that turned out to be a bit more complicated
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Lost_Heaven:
only 50mins m8
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
it takes time to get this done
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Vishnu:

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SWAT_OP-R8R:
forum and cf page are 2 complete different systems
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Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
and for now do this by manual?
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/V\ichael:
welcome Vishnu, well, you are late but still in time.
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Drale:
you know how they say, better late than never
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Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
so will be actual data and have time to do automatic system?
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
yes
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
brb 3 mins
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Robbers Dog:
i done it kool
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Spiky-:
"you are late but still in time".... Michael logic
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Drale:
lol
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Robbers Dog:
umm ok it said 8 pm
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Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):

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Spiky-:
yes
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Spiky-:
8 CET
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Vishnu:
12 30 AM
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Spiky-:
not 8 UK time
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/V\ichael:
AM ?
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/V\ichael:
hmmm
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Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
calendar should manage time if you have proper timezone settings in profile
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Vishnu:
i do
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/V\ichael:
yeah
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(IOC)Shogun:
Okay, I see two things we need to discuss so far. If anyone else sees more, please correct me - Freelancers to join the RP and the mercs hole we have now.
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Robbers Dog:
how the hell am i suppse to know that .. lol i have enough trouble reading digital clock as it is
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/V\ichael:
What mercs hole ?
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Drale:
well, people need to get used with puting bounties first
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/V\ichael:
SA, IOC, and freelancers, I think there are still not enough jobs for mercs atm.
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Drale:
*putting
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(IOC)Shogun:
PX one mate
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/V\ichael:
ya
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Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
Drale> exactly
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Drale:
IOC are smugg
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Riebens:
I flew aroudn in my [ASF] ship and was not challendged once ...
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/V\ichael:
that's another topic Riebens.
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Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
btw ... with container runs gone .... ppl will not use bounties (imo)
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Drale:
exactly
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Crysis:
it seems we are speaking on 100 topics at once ... so fucking pointless
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(IOC)Shogun:
ASF/CSF is getting reborn in my opinion.
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Drale:
standard trading has a major role in server
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Drale:
container just ruins it
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(IOC)Shogun:
okay everyone - pick a topic to discuss!
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/V\ichael:
but well, you also have to call CSF arround, it's not like you/all ASF watch every hour if an opponent is arround.
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
back
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Vishnu:
wb
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(IOC)Shogun:
wb
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/V\ichael:
wb
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
container topic done
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/V\ichael:
wub wub
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(IOC)Shogun:
next, please
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Spiky-:
there's no point in talking about ASF vs CSF when everyone in this chat is currently ASF -_-
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Crysis:
finally someone to hear my words
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
lets just continue with the other topic -> clans
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Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
Bounties: can be set lower walue?
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Cresthen:
erm OP have the Altair missions been fixed?
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(IOC)Shogun:
What about the clans and what has to be changed?
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
CSF has to get organized better
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Spiky-:
CSF lacks someone who can organize better
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
no altair missions are not fixed yet
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Riebens:
there we have a csf
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Riebens:
abras
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Abrasdevil:
hi
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Spiky-:
abras is too busy fighting with Michael, he has no time to organize things
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Abrasdevil:
yes?
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Riebens:

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/V\ichael:
lol
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Drale:
lol
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Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
... ppl will join clan if they will see benefits (atm have freelancing many benefits
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Abrasdevil:
spiky.. careful
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Riebens:
hi m8
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Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
and imo is no way reduce those benefits
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Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
better is rasie clan benefits
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Spiky-:
my suggestion would be a major clan shift to CSF to start organizing things
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(IOC)Shogun:
sounds good, but who is willing to switch to CSF?
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/V\ichael:
clan shift again ?
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Vishnu:
people get into clan = more interest in the game = longer time on the server
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Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
hmmm Spiky: this we can solve on LB
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Corynthos:
Are you volunteering BG to CSF, Spike?
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Spiky-:
currently CSF is quasi non existant with a few clanless pirates roaming around with no purpose (Alien, the-one, russian guy etc.)
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
RP wise it would make sense if pirates and cops concentrate doing RP on FLs
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
raising the presure on them
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(IOC)Shogun:
some bounties on them would work as well
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Crysis:
once you get new recruits for each inactive clan , there will be no need for clan shifting (ASF / CSF)
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Abrasdevil:
I can't be more than online
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/V\ichael:
so when they get above lvl 40 they see the need to stick with a RP.
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Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
but problem is that ppl not know who is how RP (if not play longer time)
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
that could motivate them joining clans
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
they will learn
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Riebens:
everyone .. fl included .. shoudl wear at least one of the 4 licenses
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Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
I told it before ... chat should show players RP licenses
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
sooner or later they consider clans as save haven
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Robbers Dog:
cant we ask all freelancer to pick beetwen asf acn csf as well ?
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(IOC)Shogun:
I think the only ones who could do that are the cops and pirates.
(21:01:41)
Riebens:
yes.. that would be good ...
(21:01:44)
Crysis:
that one yes , but also if you pick up some ppl to get the newbies familiar with CF and try to get them into clans(of their interest)
(21:01:52)
Drale:
If the majority of the server is involved in the RP, normally, the newbies will see the interest too
(21:01:52)
Crysis:
just like a GR ... but this role would be for recruits
(21:02:05)
Riebens:
if a clan is one . .they shoudl have al ltheir chars with that tag ...
(21:02:12)
Riebens:
*license.. not tag
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Vishnu:
imo, RP should have more conversation and main aim other than just cramming missiles down the opponent's throat
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/V\ichael:
is the dockrapign/spawn killing problem solved for everyone now ?
(21:03:15)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
the elemental idea behind RP is that you can only show others how RP is done if you do it yourself
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(IOC)Shogun:
Vishnu, I support you on this one
(21:03:31)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
and vishnu is right
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(IOC)Shogun:
brb 5 mins
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Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
Freelancer can have all rp liecenses which want ... even all if want so this is not something what bring him to clan
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/V\ichael:
keeping the RP in fair play could keep players doing RP after starting it..
(21:03:41)
{LP}Knightshade{X}:

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Abrasdevil:
then sell your dual torp vishnu
(21:03:41)
Spiky-:
there was no dockraping problem in the first place
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Robbers Dog:
i agre with vish
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Vishnu:

(21:04:05)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
3-4 weeks ago i told the leaders that they are incompetent Roleplayers
(21:04:08)
/V\ichael:
spiky, you are not the one to get dockraping reports
(21:04:15)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
for the reason that they dont play a role
(21:04:28)
Spiky-:
you cannot dockrape with 4 sec immunity after docking
(21:04:29)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
they just wear a licence to target others
(21:04:34)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
during that time this statement was correct
(21:04:43)
/V\ichael:
Spike, whatever.
(21:04:49)
(IOC)Shogun:
I believe this is changing OP
(21:04:53)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
RP is not crying "tax"
(21:05:03)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
RP is acting like a pirate instead
(21:05:08)
Crysis:
that's because the others are avoiding the RP ... " Oh wait , a copper is coming to fine us " and he/she switches afterwards
(21:05:11)
/V\ichael:
and speaking like one
(21:05:24)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
and putting the word "tax" into a RP environment
(21:05:27)
Vishnu:
point, Crysis
(21:05:39)
(IOC)Shogun:
indeed, I hate the "switch-to-fighter-after-my-train-gets-taxed"
(21:05:46)
{LP}Knightshade{X}:
lol more like this what it supposed to be "Hic, wheres me rum"
(21:05:58)
Crysis:
of course everyone will stop doing RP if they others are also avoiding it
(21:05:59)
{LP}Knightshade{X}:
"copper stole me rum"
(21:06:00)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
right
(21:06:02)
Drale:
or they stay docked, and wait the moment when cops are outnumbered to fight us
(21:06:13)
Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
... or Cop better let destroy his train bcs he will not pay tax bcs never do this ... only as example imo what is not rp
(21:06:18)
Crysis:
no matter if a police guy switches after a pirate comes in , or a pirate switches once a police officer comes in
(21:06:25)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
i loved the custodian whisky raids between LP and BG
(21:06:26)
/V\ichael:
Crysis, if somebody evades a RP situation (after it's started, which means, both hunter and target being in the same system) you can report that, to stop those things from happening.
(21:06:34)
Vishnu:
"Give meh money to buy my rum!" "I require money to feed my pirate children" etc etc
(21:06:36)
{LP}Knightshade{X}:
soon to come again
(21:06:41)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
it was an organized RP
(21:06:44)
/V\ichael:
if people see others getting punished for evading RP, it may stop, or happen less often.
(21:06:52)
Crysis:
Michael, this is impossible
(21:06:57)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
pirated invaded... cops defended
(21:07:00)
Crysis:
because if they get fined for it(for example)
(21:07:06)
Crysis:
will probably get bored and leave the server
(21:07:07)
Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
nice! .... (merc (me) is willn help in raiding (or defending .. depneds of moneys
(21:07:07)
Spiky-:
lol michael
(21:07:12)
Corynthos:
Sol blockade/Kusari VIP run were also awesome sources of goodfites & RP
(21:07:14)
Riebens:
best RP - 1 char and ship only ....
(21:07:18)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
and after that each side posted its "propaganda" on the RP boards
(21:07:31)
/V\ichael:
bored ? of getting fined for evading RP ? they are the ones who are making others get bored of RP.
(21:07:36)
(IOC)Shogun:
posting on the forums is really important, I agree!
(21:07:48)
Crysis:
well Mich, you should get in the server more often
(21:07:59)
Martind Forlon (SA_Forlon):
sry all, I need go .. thx for chat. see you hope tomorrow evening in space
(21:08:05)
{LP}Knightshade{X}:
i would love to see the RP come back to this, but the issue is RP is still restoring its ranks
(21:08:07)
/V\ichael:
see you later Forlon
(21:08:07)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
if you didnt notice yet... fines are the most stupid punishment you can do
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Abrasdevil
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entered the chat
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(IOC)Shogun:
take care, Forlon
(21:08:14)
Crysis:
see ya man, good night and see ya tomorrow
(21:08:18)
Vishnu:
cya forlorn
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/V\ichael:
yes, they are.
(21:08:33)
Drale:
cya
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
fines do only one thing... they cause anger
(21:08:46)
Riebens:
ciao forlon
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Abrasdevil:
I can only speak for myself. when Im online, I do my RP .. and I'm not only yelling "tax" or smth
(21:08:59)
/V\ichael:
and bans cause less anger ?
(21:09:03)
{LP}Knightshade{X}:
still i fight with gunny and other cops for a while and just have fun
(21:09:13)
Drale:
I'm trying to do RP too
(21:09:20)
Drale:
as it is supposed
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Crysis:
you should invent a better punishment OP
(21:09:32)
Abrasdevil:
yes. I know. .and tarsus is still ugly Drale
(21:09:37)
Vishnu:
strip the ship of its equipment?
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(IOC)Shogun:
I RP when getting taxed as well
(21:09:47)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
if everyone gets into the head that we are playing together... and not against each other then RP will work
(21:09:51)
/V\ichael:
that's not more usseful than a fine..
(21:09:55)
Drale:
not as ugly as hiruga
(21:10:11)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
and if you create a RP environment where you actually PLAY a role then this will be fun for everyone
(21:10:11)
(IOC)Shogun:
OP, the absolute truth!!!!
(21:10:21)
Crysis:
that's the problem , cuz the commucation with the newbies is lacking (one part of the problem)
(21:10:30)
Crysis:
communication*
(21:10:31)
{LP}Knightshade{X}:
i see what you mean OP, i changed for the better
(21:10:44)
Abrasdevil:
yes.. you did knight, you pay now
(21:10:48)
/V\ichael:
Well Crys, after the latest bans, that's the main problem left, don't you think so ?
(21:10:51)
{LP}Knightshade{X}:

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Riebens:
one problem i have is to try and identify people ... differnet ships ..different names ...
(21:11:01)
Crysis:
Get them familiar with CF , the clans and etc ... and you'll create a friendly envirement
(21:11:03)
Robbers Dog:
umm try rp with russain who only noes the word tax ....
(21:11:07)
Crysis:
after that , we WILL play together
(21:11:11)
Drale:
that's what i was saying... If newbies see majority of players playing RP, they will probably see it interesting, and join.(common sense)
(21:11:11)
Crysis:
and not against each other
(21:11:13)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
there are enough people where which can make a change... together
(21:11:21)
Abrasdevil:
no Michael. the main problem is the language barrier still remaining, cause not everyone playin on the server, speaks english
(21:11:38)
/V\ichael:
a, yeah... RPing with people who don't speak english is hard.
(21:11:49)
{LP}Knightshade{X}:
that is why i help anyone i can or whoever asks for it
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SWAT_OP-R8R
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Crysis:
YES ... and if that script is possible (translating the language into their own one , eng/other to their own) , would work
(21:12:15)
(IOC)Shogun:
everyone who is not speaking English can use Google Translate if they are eager to do RP. I did that back in the times
(21:12:19)
(IOC)Shogun:
and I still do it!
(21:12:24)
Crysis:
ofc if such a script is open source
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SWAT_OP-R8R
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SWAT_OP-R8R
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Lost_Heaven:
Crysis machine translations dont work.
(21:12:41)
Corynthos:
Scripts? Bulls***
(21:12:45)
Drale:
i was trying to do a RP, me and Abras, with the guy named Sten, but he's unfortunately non-english speaker as it seems, and it was really hard
(21:12:47)
Spiky-:
one cannot simply write cyrillic
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Vishnu:
wouldnt that be a big burden on the server?
(21:12:59)
Corynthos:
I can bet that most of us here are multi-lingual
(21:13:00)
Vishnu:
server load*
(21:13:00)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
we have enough ppl speaking such languages... let them organize stuff
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/V\ichael:
trolls quiet.
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[BC]afGun:
Shogun: googl is not panacea
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Abrasdevil:
shogun, first you will have to make them understand that CF is an RP server, and if they get involved into something, but dont know whats going on
(21:13:14)
Crysis:
google translator .. I know it's crappy , but still ... it can work
(21:13:17)
Crysis:
if it's open source too
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Abrasdevil:
you cant explain cause they dont understand you
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/V\ichael:
Crysis, who speaks with proper spelling in a game ¿ no matter it's their native language or not..
(21:13:44)
Corynthos:
Then find someone who can make thm understand, AD
(21:13:50)
/V\ichael:
? *
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(IOC)Shogun:
Abras, start killing them for apparently "no reason" and they will start using the translator to understand why they are getting killed.
(21:14:13)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
might work
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Bond:
Good evening guys
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Crysis:
Michael, that was just a suggestion .. take it or leave it
(21:14:16)
[BC]afGun:
But thei can understand if someone will explain thein in their native. Someone who able to do it.
(21:14:17)
Crysis:
I don't care
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Riebens:
Shogun.. true .. it works .. specially if yo utried talkig nto them before and they ignore
(21:14:37)
Abrasdevil:
therefor I would need to know who speaks what language and who is willing to help translating when being online corynthos
(21:14:41)
Vishnu:
Good evening/very early morning Bond
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/V\ichael:
yes, that can work afgun, when there is somebody who will explain them.
(21:14:46)
Drale:
Hi Bond
(21:14:51)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
howdy
(21:14:54)
(IOC)Shogun:
Hello Bond
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[BC]afGun:
hi
(21:15:01)
Lost_Heaven:
hey there
(21:15:03)
/V\ichael:
welcome bond
(21:15:05)
Riebens:
hi bond
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Abrasdevil:
hi
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Robbers Dog:
g day bond
(21:15:28)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
there are so many ways getting communication done... i am sure that we can work out something
(21:15:35)
(IOC)Shogun
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Crysis:
Another suggestion about the language ,would be a simply " Hello " start everytime you login with your char (the one that always appears)
(21:15:49)
Crysis:
and each one leads to the topic in SWAT
(21:15:51)
Drale:
One thing i'm sure all understand
(21:15:54)
Crysis:
with the server rules
(21:15:56)
Drale:
"go? go!"
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Drale:

(21:16:00)
Crysis:
for each language
(21:16:08)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
even if that means to put the russians into a new merc clan
(21:16:12)
Crysis:
on each language(the hello and the link )
(21:16:24)
Robbers Dog:
disclexic so what ever you do will be a chalange for me but must be better
(21:16:29)
Spiky-:
I find "n00b" to be a much more useful universal word to communicate
(21:16:29)
[BC]afGun:
Well, we are mercs too
(21:16:39)
Bond
went into the room "Clan Leaders"
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Bond
entered the chat
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(IOC)Shogun:
Gay is a pretty universal word too
(21:17:01)
[BC]afGun:
xD
(21:17:10)
(IOC)Shogun:
but that's not the point
(21:17:11)
Spiky-:
"gay n00b... go!"
(21:17:14)
Riebens:
happy ??
(21:17:15)
Spiky-:
works like a charm
(21:17:22)
{LP}Knightshade{X}:
lol
(21:17:30)
Riebens:

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/V\ichael:
Spiky, what if you get reported for insulting
(21:17:50)
Crysis:
ofc... spam again
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{LP}Knightshade{X}:
or fined
(21:18:01)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
point is that communication is a matter to solve... and it can get solved
(21:18:15)
Riebens:
yes.. we should move on
(21:18:16)
{LP}Knightshade{X}:
yes i agree OP
(21:18:20)
Abrasdevil:
if all working on it it can OP
(21:18:25)
Crysis:
yes .. if you ever heard the suggestions cuz I didn't see an answer for them ( just to know )
(21:18:38)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
and thats the point... if we work on it
(21:18:45)
Abrasdevil:
but therfor will have to be more than just saying "I agree bla bla" and actually doing something
(21:18:51)
Spiky-:
if only germany had won WW II we would all be speaking german now; problem fixed
(21:18:58)
Riebens:
so what about the container run .. going to get scrapped i nfavour of tradign and RP ?
(21:18:58)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
i often have the feeling that stuff is being discussed and 2 week later nobody remembers
(21:19:05)
Abrasdevil:
lol spiky 1 vote was missing that time
(21:19:14)
[BC]afGun:
Sorry people but in my region of Russia is 23:18 now Is there something else what I should hear?
(21:19:30)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
ill post a log
(21:19:54)
Crysis:
if you put people translating the languages , they may get inactive , or get RL stuffs and etc.. and the " system " would crash
(21:19:56)
(IOC)Shogun:
afGun, feel free to go and get some sleep, mate
(21:19:58)
Crysis:
you need something better
(21:20:01)
Crysis:
that can be always there
(21:20:01)
Abrasdevil:
move to london, then you are even with the server time
(21:20:18)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
like clans for such people
(21:20:34)
Crysis:
yes
(21:20:44)
Crysis:
a script would be the best solution
(21:20:44)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
in clans there are always people which speak both languages... and can jump in if neccessary
(21:20:47)
Crysis:
only if it's possible
(21:20:56)
[BC]afGun:
Shogun thanks but i just want to continue paly ME3 Anyway, i just need some break from translation
(21:21:07)
Spiky-:
spoiler alert the ending sucks
(21:21:14)
Crysis:
" can " jump in ... that's not good enough
(21:21:15)
Vishnu:
STFUUUU\
(21:21:17)
Abrasdevil:
they can only jump in if others tell them. but if no one even says a word. then they dont know
(21:21:18)
Crysis:
see most of the clans? all vanished
(21:21:25)
Bond:
Conversation is as usual? Hilarious and with lot of spamm?
(21:21:28)
Crysis:
but sure , keep to that system if you'd like
(21:21:33)
Corynthos:
Who wrote the endings? Reapers
(21:21:41)
Vishnu:
Grand is gone
(21:21:49)
Spiky-:
again?
(21:21:52)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
a small child
(21:21:55)
Vishnu:
playing ME3 for the past 1 month :L
(21:22:00)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
however
(21:22:09)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
OT
(21:22:15)
Crysis:
I thought we were discussing CF things here , not that crap called ME3
(21:22:33)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
getting them organized in clans is in my eyes the best option atm
(21:22:35)
Vishnu:
plz plz no spoilers
(21:22:36)
(IOC)Shogun:
Crysis, don't be mean, he's just sharing with us Sharing is caring.
(21:22:39)
Vishnu:
ty
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[BC]afGun:
I just said one word...
(21:22:45)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
if you have better ideas...
(21:23:00)
Spiky-:
lets talk about GW 2
(21:23:01)
Crysis:
yes, I do ... which also includes that one you just said
(21:23:04)
Robbers Dog:
a russain server for them ?
(21:23:12)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
otherwise we could move on to the next topic
(21:23:13)
Crysis:
and he can always share his " opinion " in another chat Sogun
(21:23:15)
Crysis:
Shogun*
(21:23:41)
Crysis:
I just told most of my ideas, but it seemed that they weren't heard
(21:23:47)
Vishnu:
GRs are already propagating the idea of joining a clan in universal chat...
(21:23:53)
/V\ichael:
well Crys they were heard
(21:23:57)
Abrasdevil:
no crysis. in this way you see exactly how people care and how serious they take it
(21:23:58)
/V\ichael:
and analyzed better in the logs, later.
(21:24:22)
/V\ichael:
as with 3 topics at once and trolls it's hard to focus
(21:24:22)
(IOC)Shogun:
Someone just copy the ideas and post them as a thread, so everyone could discuss them freely with NO SPAM.
(21:24:31)
Riebens:
gtg . .another business meeting in 30 minutes ... ciao people
(21:24:34)
(IOC)Shogun
left the chat
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Crysis:
well, instead of keep quite and answer to the other guy , I just can get a simple answer " yes " or " no " for example
(21:24:37)
/V\ichael:
Shogun, OP said he will post a log.
(21:24:40)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
translations, cargo containers... i believe ive read them
(21:24:43)
(IOC)Shogun
entered the chat
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Vishnu:
cya Rieb
(21:24:58)
Bond:
cu
(21:25:03)
/V\ichael:
cya Riebens
(21:25:10)
Riebens:
cu tomorrow on server
(21:25:13)
(IOC)Shogun:
bye, mate
(21:25:13)
Crysis:
see ya Riebens , hf
(21:25:14)
Robbers Dog:
what was the out come of cargo containers
(21:25:36)
Vishnu:
mass accumulation of money in a short amount of time
(21:25:37)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
we could discuss thousands of topics here... but we would never finish
(21:25:46)
Vishnu:
ppl can get easily 200 mil a day
(21:25:55)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
this meeting is also not for making decisions on certain topics
(21:26:05)
Crysis:
yes , I guess we should let each individual to share his opinions
(21:26:20)
Crysis:
it'll be much easier
(21:26:29)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
my main intention was to get information about the current situation and possible improvements
(21:27:01)
/V\ichael:
so what other topics people should think about, OP ?
(21:27:10)
(IOC)Shogun:
In my eyes we need RP and new trade routes, which is obvious I guess
(21:27:10)
Crysis:
no Michael
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Crysis:
it will never end otherwise
(21:27:24)
Crysis:
let each individual share his opinion
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vardek
entered the chat
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
todays meeting is just to get people involved and think about what we can do better in future
(21:27:38)
Drale:
2 major problems are RP, and crashes imho... Container run after those...
(21:27:39)
Crysis:
and after everyone share his , OP will decide what's what and what's not
(21:27:49)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
actually i just had 2 topics for today
(21:27:50)
/V\ichael:
Crys, it's right the opposite
(21:28:11)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
the server situation and reorganisation of the portal
(21:28:20)
(IOC)Shogun:
OP, wouldn't it better if you post a thread with the topics and let everyone share his opinion without an extrodanery spam?
(21:28:41)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
no, because spam always happens
(21:28:45)
Crysis:
or he can just do it here
(21:28:54)
(IOC)Shogun:
sorry for my spelling, got a few beers
(21:29:19)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
i want to start this discussion today and keep these topics running over several weeks
(21:29:26)
[BC]afGun:
and for my. got a toothache
(21:29:36)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
a chance for everyone to share views
(21:29:38)
Crysis:
then if you want to , let everyone share his opinions
(21:29:42)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
meet here and discuss stuff
(21:29:45)
Crysis:
make a list and write down everything you like
(21:29:54)
Drale:
Discussion as it is, can't be finished in just 1,2 hrs
(21:29:58)
Drale:
so that's a good idea
(21:30:04)
Abrasdevil:
I for my part do RP when Im online. and I also involve others into it. no matter what clan or level. and so far I haven't made any "i dont want rp" experience with others.
(21:30:05)
Crysis:
1st topic , -> opinions , 2nd -> opinions
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Crysis:
and etc
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
we will have another meeting in 2 weeks
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/V\ichael:
hmm, I already PMed my last suggestions
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[BC]afGun:
just like our clan monthly skype meeetengs I totally agree
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SA_Raiden
left the chat
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Crysis:
ok, that's it ... I stop wasting my words
(21:30:35)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
enough time for everyone to think about all that stuff
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SA_Raiden
entered the chat
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Bond:
trading containers-issue, i mean this is ideal for No RP all..imo this gota be removed
(21:31:04)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
so topic 2
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
was discussed bond
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Abrasdevil:
OP .. thinking about stuff is one thing. but people would actually need to practice what they all tell to do . so far its mostly only being talked about.
(21:31:32)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
the SWAT Portal
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Bond:
sry
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/V\ichael:
reorganization
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[BC]afGun:
please summarize the results of the meeting
(21:32:10)
Abrasdevil:
afGun. he said he is posting a log of it
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Crysis:
Now, let everyone share his opinion ,after that .. try it until the 2nd meeting ... then share new things, try them till the next one and etc
(21:32:40)
[BC]afGun:
I know. But its difficul to read something usful in the long logs
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Bond:
what to share\\/
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
topic 2 (i ignore everything else now)
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/V\ichael:
OP was starting the 2nd topic...
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[BC]afGun:
I just starting the topic on my forum now. i can miss something
(21:33:30)
Abrasdevil:
players opinion about CF RP and portalk reorganization Bond
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Robbers Dog:
well cantainers could be moved around like the commodateis do .. that would make it harder instead of removing them
(21:33:59)
Crysis:
that's it ... I stop wasting my breath here
(21:34:03)
Bond:
ty
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Abrasdevil:
yw
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
the swat portal is practically getting filled with new content while i lately focused on features which might help getting the community closer together and having fun
(21:34:27)
Bond:
finally @ Crysis
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
community groups for clans... games... etc.
(21:35:01)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
however... the portal has to evolve
(21:35:26)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
if we can not expand into other games then Freelancer will be the last game that this community played
(21:35:30)
Robbers Dog:
how @ op
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Abrasdevil:
but OP .. putting "too much stuff" on the portal for the people to play with, might keep them from the main purpose (which I think is, playing CF online) dont you think so?
(21:35:58)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
CF is not the main purpose
(21:36:04)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
the portal is
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Abrasdevil:
ok
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[BC]afGun:
So, we need to found some other game and place the content here?
(21:36:36)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
its actually not that complicated
(21:36:41)
{LP}Knightshade{X}:
the portal is main focus, it needs to evolve with new things coming out nowadays
(21:36:47)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
people play other games
(21:37:02)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
nobody can tell me that they are not playing other scifi games
(21:37:03)
vardek:
how about accurate guided/homing missiles/torps that chase and hit the target?
(21:37:16)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
ppl could play ME3 in multiplayer
(21:37:26)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
they could play black prophecy
(21:37:30)
Abrasdevil:
what is ME anyway?
(21:37:36)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
they could by the old republic
(21:37:41)
Crysis:
Ass Deffect
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Vishnu:
mass effect
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Abrasdevil:
ah ,. ok
(21:38:16)
Bond:
And this the reason why CF need Coca cola-Pepsi cola analogy like a game so soon
(21:38:25)
Abrasdevil:
well. Im not that young anymore, that I have time to play all games which are "in" or "totally hipp" now
(21:38:36)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
question would be how to orgnanize such an expansion ínto a different game
(21:38:44)
[BC]afGun:
hmm. I can integrate our clan-system in the near future. But the effect can appear only after good results of my clan-catalisyst. We have some... problems with playing together now...
(21:38:50)
Vishnu:
i guess the portal could harbor other FL mods too, maybe that way more ppl will come here
(21:38:56)
(IOC)Shogun
left the chat
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Drale:
Vishnu, and that way they would see how much CF is better
(21:39:37)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
problem with other FL mods is that their lifetime is as long as CFs lifetime
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/V\ichael:
well OP, I made a poll to check how many of the current members play othe sci fi games SWAT can support, seen the result ?
(21:39:58)
Spiky-:
too bad Trowa's WoW clan attempt failed :p
(21:40:06)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
no
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/V\ichael:
counting that current members are the ones to start sections on other games.
(21:40:13)
Abrasdevil:
I think most people who play other games, do already have forums/portals/places to go. Therefor we would need to show something what makes them interested in joining the portal for the games they play too.
(21:40:51)
Abrasdevil:
And only those people who play other games, can actually tell whats needed or necessary to make others interested in.
(21:41:15)
Bond:
valid point if they mind at alll...
(21:41:15)
Lost_Heaven:
gotta go off, cya ppl
(21:41:25)
Bond:
cu LH
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Crysis:
cya
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{LP}Knightshade{X}:
something that kind of kicks it up a notch, whether being hints/tips, a helping hand, or just a wider variety of people to play with
(21:41:34)
Abrasdevil:
cya heaven
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
bye
(21:41:51)
Vishnu:
cya
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/V\ichael:
@OP: The double polls' result link: ind…rview&pollID=86
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/V\ichael:
cya heaven
(21:42:15)
vardek
left the chat
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Abrasdevil:
but with those you have to particular adress the people who are playing the other games already. and information from those games you only get from those people who actually play them already. Its a sort of loop hole I think
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Bond
entered the chat
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Vishnu:
anyone plays cod online?
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
i think that if someone makes the first step then everything is possible
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{LP}Knightshade{X}:
i did ran out of xbox live tho vishnu
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vardek
entered the chat
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Crysis:
o you think?
(21:43:52)
Spiky-:
gtfo with CoD pls
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/V\ichael:
I remember seeing few people starting news sections and such, about other games, and their effort got unnoticed.
(21:43:53)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
"I am playing..... who wants to join?"
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THOM88
entered the chat
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Vishnu:
could make a CoD clan
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{LP}Knightshade{X}:
MW3
(21:44:10)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
its not that complicated
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Spiky-:
imo SWAT would have to establish itself in a game which isn't out yet if you want to do this properly
(21:44:16)
Vishnu:
yeah, platform wide clan
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Drale:
i'm not playing anything
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Abrasdevil:
sure OP . but how to figure who is playing other games and willing to give other portals (this here) a try ? you know what I mean?
(21:44:26)
Drale:
except for cf
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Drale:
and few SP games
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/V\ichael:
@Spike: ME4
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
by asking?
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Vishnu:
assassins creed 3
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{LP}Knightshade{X}:
stay on topic guys
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Vishnu:
black ops 2
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Crysis:
no, keep spamming .. seems to be the better way to understand each other here
(21:45:57)
{LP}Knightshade{X}:
asking i think is the only surefire way at the moment
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THOM88
entered the chat
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/V\ichael:
well, by those 2 polls it gets noticeable what game can get enough support to start a section for it.
(21:46:54)
Crysis:
precisly Abras
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/V\ichael:
welcome thom
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vardek:
nightstalkers universe mod needs players
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
and since we will not find a solution for this problem today... we meet in 2 weeks
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Vishnu:
k
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{LP}Knightshade{X}:

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Crysis:
and you won't find a solutuion in there too
(21:47:33)
Crysis:
then
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Vishnu:
hope to come
(21:47:35)
Robbers Dog:
k
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SA_Raiden:

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THOM88
entered the chat
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
point is that a solution has to be found
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/V\ichael:
so this was a topic starter meeting, and the next one is a solutions meeting , you can't miss the next meetging !!
(21:48:33)
Crysis:
good luck with all the bullshit spam here
(21:48:39)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
if not i can actually close the portal now
(21:48:45)
Crysis:
and everyone keep ignoring the other trying to say something
(21:48:58)
Crysis:
you want something? let the other(s) speak
(21:49:02)
/V\ichael:
Crys no one is ignoring
(21:49:04)
Crysis:
not jumping into 100 topics
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Bond:
let them
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THOM88
entered the chat
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Bond:
...
(21:49:25)
Crysis:
make meetings every weekend
(21:49:34)
Bond:
i agree
(21:49:40)
Crysis:
about stats in about the server
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Crysis:
discuss new things
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/V\ichael:
that would help
(21:49:49)
Crysis:
try making them as well
(21:49:51)
[BC]afGun:
+1. agree
(21:49:53)
Crysis:
see how they will develop
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Drale:
I believe that meetings should be held every week too
(21:49:57)
Crysis:
but not, keep spamming
(21:50:01)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
next meeting in 2 weeks
(21:50:02)
Crysis:
prefer not to listen the others, but yourself only
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Vishnu:
that is the government, in a nutshell
(21:50:20)
[BC]afGun:
op: same time?
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/V\ichael:
each 2 weeks maybe
(21:50:36)
/V\ichael:
could be an option
(21:50:55)
Abrasdevil:
people. have you ever considered ,that we actually dont need OP to have a meeting.. ?? We can still meet and discuss things here. even OP is not around. This I would call conversation between players.
(21:51:07)
Bastus
entered the chat
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Crysis:
4-5 ppl post comments here at the same time , hard to understand the others (part of the issue)
(21:51:13)
Abrasdevil:
no matter what day the next meeting is scheduled on.. we can still meet in the meantime..
(21:51:15)
[BC]afGun:
AD. agree
(21:51:22)
Robbers Dog:
right guys im off ... good idea adras
(21:51:40)
Bond:
we need some kind of live forum here with moderators and such...more or less this will not do
(21:51:53)
Crysis:
we need OP, cuz he's the boss and can make those changes ... he has to listen to us at least each weekend
(21:51:54)
vardek
left the chat
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Crysis:
about what's going on in the server
(21:52:07)
Robbers Dog
left the chat
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Abrasdevil:
cya robbers
(21:52:09)
Crysis:
discuss what could be done (new things)
(21:52:16)
Crysis:
what can be removed
(21:52:16)
Crysis:
etc
(21:52:21)
/V\ichael:
we can start and solve the topics alone, and just give OP our resolutions
(21:52:28)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
i dont think you need me to use your brain
(21:52:43)
Abrasdevil:
lol OP. thats exactly what I meant
(21:52:45)
Drale:
Also, moderators and GR's should be always online on chat(when they are on forum already). So the new guys could ask the questions
(21:52:52)
{LP}Knightshade{X}:
crysis, all we really need at one of these meetings without op is someone to write down the keypoints of said meeting
(21:53:00)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
we will see soon enough what the results are going to be
(21:53:07)
Crysis:
fine ... then good luck seeing ppl organizing themselves in the server and talking about the issues of CF
(21:53:07)
SA_Raiden:
G2G have a good night everybody
(21:53:16)
/V\ichael:
Drale, forum moderators no, they can't do much on the chat.
(21:53:21)
/V\ichael:
nto more than a normal member
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Vishnu:
cya
(21:53:32)
Abrasdevil:
you too raiden.. and send my greetings to your hubby
(21:53:48)
/V\ichael:
cya soon Raiden
(21:53:59)
Drale:
well, GR's then
(21:54:01)
Bond:
SWAT_OP-R8R: i dont think you need me to use your brain...SWAT_OP-R8R: i dont think you need me to use your brain...SWAT_OP-R8R: i dont think you need me to use your brain
(21:54:12)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
btw. the chat has 24 hour log function
(21:54:15)
Crysis:
the ppl in the server prefer to play , not to discuss issues about CF
(21:54:20)
Crysis:
in the portal, they decide to spam
(21:54:20)
Bond:
sry but i ...
(21:54:39)
Drale:
chat should be also used as a support for new players
(21:54:46)
Abrasdevil:
are you sure about that Michael?
(21:54:51)
/V\ichael:
which new player comes onthe chat ?
(21:54:58)
Drale:
would be much easier for them to log in here, and fire the question
(21:55:07)
Drale:
to the online staff
(21:55:15)
Abrasdevil:
yes, if they figure how to access the chat
(21:55:23)
Drale:
yeah
(21:55:23)
Bond:
hmm stop dreaming
(21:55:25)
THOM88
entered the chat
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/V\ichael:
ya.
(21:55:46)
Crysis:
the portal also needs some tips about each feature in it ... I get a lot of comments about that issue
(21:55:49)
Vishnu:
but whos going to keep a tab open whenever they are on their PC and alt tab to check every 5 minsutes?
(21:55:54)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
a new chat is in preparation (in theory it can link the forum with the CF page)
(21:56:05)
Vishnu:
minutes*
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/V\ichael:
well, the newbie helping topic goes quite well, there's a group of us who reply those questions pretty fast.
(21:56:11)
Drale:
not whenever on the PC, just whenever on portal. that's not hard
(21:56:26)
Drale:
well, that's just suggestion
(21:56:32)
THOM88
entered the chat
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SWAT_OP-R8R:
well... for me the meeting is over now but you are free to stay and discuss
(21:57:00)
/V\ichael:
Will that new chat automatically log in everyone who logs on the portal ?
(21:57:00)
Bond:
In game live support is needed, that's for sure and for that mattert we need active Gr-GRs 24/7
(21:57:08)
Vishnu:
i will go and get some sleep
(21:57:09)
Crysis:
nah, I prefer not to waste my breath any longer
(21:57:12)
Vishnu:
bye all
(21:57:24)
Crysis:
seems the others don't care
(21:57:28)
SWAT_OP-R8R:
but someone has to stay here and make sure that abras and michael dont kill each other
(21:57:37)
/V\ichael:
vish, sleep so early ? well, see you later m8
(21:57:49)
Abrasdevil:
Bond. thats hard to accomplish, since all people have a real life as well and can not spend every free minute on the server or forum. some have work others are in school. ect
(21:57:51)
Cresthen
left the chat
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/V\ichael:
Abras ? here ?
(21:58:18)
[BC]afGun:
bb guys. I need to go. toworrowbegins in 2 minutes . And as always, sorry for my bad english
(21:58:18)
Bond:
It is, i know but this is "only" solution
(21:58:22)
Abrasdevil:
dont worry OP.. Michael is hiding his butt anyway. and when it comes to facing he is leaving for some mysterious reasons
(21:58:28)
/V\ichael:
it was sarcasm.
(21:58:30)
Crysis:
if Michael still hides behind some imaginary reason , the fight between them will never end
(21:58:37)
Crysis:
until Michael logs in the server and face Abras
(21:58:42)
Crysis:
they will always fight in the forum
(21:58:50)
Abrasdevil:
lol
(21:58:55)
Abrasdevil:
crysis. .dont be that harsh
(21:58:56)
Spiky-:
abras only cares about his achievements on this portal
(21:58:59)
Spiky-:
just keep him occupied with that
(21:59:00)
SWAT_OP-R8R
left the chat
(21:59:03)
Abrasdevil:
??
(21:59:03)
/V\ichael:
Well Crys I faced Abras in-game, no difference.
(21:59:13)
Abrasdevil:
spiky. you are mistaken in some point
(21:59:14)
SWAT_OP-R8R
entered the chat
(21:59:20)
/V\ichael:
wb OP
(21:59:22)
Spiky-:
woops I mean Michael
(21:59:23)
SWAT_OP-R8R
left the chat
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Spiky-:
it has come to a point where I cannot even distinguish you two clowns anymore
(21:59:35)
/V\ichael:
says the troll
(21:59:37)
Spiky-:
and on that bombshell
(21:59:39)
Spiky-:
I am off
(21:59:43)
Spiky-
left the chat
(21:59:47)
Crysis:
you haven't faced Abras in the game Michael
(21:59:53)
Abrasdevil:
lol
(21:59:55)
/V\ichael:
I did
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SWAT_OP-R8R
entered the chat
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Crysis:
neither me too
(22:00:05)
/V\ichael:
actually he wants to catch me every time I log in
(22:00:08)
/V\ichael:
it gets annoying
(22:00:08)
THOM88
entered the chat
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/V\ichael:
he even told it in public that's his goal.
(22:00:24)
Crysis:
ofc he does ... you keep running away
(22:00:47)
Abrasdevil:
when?? you mean when you were in your GR and then in NY and then in Custo and then logged off because your pc crashed ??? .
(22:00:56)
/V\ichael:
ah well, I think this is not what OP meant when telling not to kill eachother , Crys
(22:01:18)
Crysis:
I have nothing against you Michael , but while you keep inventing these crap reasons that you can't fight
(22:01:23)
Crysis:
it gets annoying to me
(22:01:29)
Crysis:
just say No and that's it
(22:01:30)
Abrasdevil:
rofl
(22:01:50)
Abrasdevil:
he cant crysis.. this would mark him as coward finally
(22:01:54)
{LP}Knightshade{X}:

(22:01:54)
Bond
went into the room "Clan Leaders"
(22:02:06)
/V\ichael:
that's cus you are too impatient to fight me, due to the last fights we had in-game
(22:02:07)
Bond
entered the chat
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Crysis:
well, it marked him already

Gunny you can add stuff on the RP boards but you can not reply RP reports are not matter of discussions... they are reports (which even get displayed as news on the CF main website) there is no room for replies, discussions or the resulting flames there