Running an own CF server?

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    Hi there,
    I am new here. Sorry if this question has already been asked somewhere, but my search didn't turn up anything useful.
    What I am trying to do is to set up an own dedicated server of Freelancer with the Crossfire 1.81 mod to co-op it with a friend. Is this even supposed to be possible? Because the download explicitly said client editition, so that indicates that this is not intended to work. Anyway, after installing everything and it works in Single Player, whenever I try to run flserver.exe it immediately crashes. Running it before installing Crossfire it would still work.
    Or am I doing sth wrong? Can I get permission to run an own server purely for LAN purposes?


    (I believe I posted in the wrong forum initially, so reposting here)

    it is clearly not possible to run a CF server other than the official one
    you would never get it running stable due to the dynamic scripts

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    Hmm. Is it technically not possible, or would I need a permission and those scripts sent, in order to get it to work? I am a software developer, so running scripts is not a problem technically. I would also sign an NDA and promise to not distribute it or whatever necessary to get permission.
    Are there other encompassing mods such as the CF, especially with regards to dynamic economy, that allow to run an own server? Co-oping vanilla Freelancer would also be an option for us, but one we have already become tired of...

    technically not possible
    the client gets synchronized with the server... a 2nd server would never run synchron

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    I really don't get it. My client connects to my server. The server never changes, so the client and the server are always up to date. The server doesn't know anything about the original CF server out there somewhere. Why would that not work exactly? Software is not a mystery after all.
    If it is indeed just about technical limitations, would it be possible for me to somehow obtain a copy of the current serversetup and I'd figure out myself how to get it running?

    no - you might connect with your client to your server (if you would have the server files) but the client does get all important game data from my server


    dynamic economy, dynamic universe, anticheat, normal updates and several other vital features are directly linked to the original server




    next to that you can not play a singleplayer campaign or whatever you trying to do on a mp server

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    you still could play on the original server

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    This is ten percent luck,
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    Fifteen percent concentrated power of will,
    Five percent pleasure,
    Fifty percent pain,
    And a hundred percent reason to remember the name!

    you should just come on over to OP's server... there's lots of good people who play on the server, the server is good... ah heck, im sure people would be more than willing to help you out if need be!!! just gotta ask...


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    Anyways, OP is right.... or singleplayer, or multiplayer... but on This server :)


    In both ways you'd have fun ! there's for Sure a lot ofvery cool stuff you don't know yet... some inner core stuff ? repair drones ? :P

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    Thanks for the invitations. We will consider it. Once we get tired of co-oping through the Discovery 4.85 mod we just installed and are enjoying. :)
    Given how many Freelancer communities there are still, it really makes me wonder why the hell no one is doing a Freelancer 2 or, for the lack of licence, a Freespacer II or something like that. What a wasted opportunity!

    we are doing ^^

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    Fifty percent pain,
    And a hundred percent reason to remember the name!

    To many on the server and myself of course, Crossfire is practically Freelancer 2 YourConscience. Aside from the vanilla systems still left in the mod and relatively left intact, albeit with upgrades, the rest of the added systems and the new Altair and Inner Core sectors definitely expand the "galaxy" the game takes place in... Crossfire now after many releases, is almost an entirely new mod, definitely the biggest and definitely an entirely original one in the FL community. If it weren't for the vanilla systems in it, it could easily be mistaken for a total conversion, like some other FL mods, namely Freeworlds. :D8) OP-R8R has really taken the original story-line and history of Freelancer in it's vanilla concepts and massively expanded and continued the storyline in a logical sense, namely centered around the Dom'Kavash alien race in the Inner Core and Altair sectors, with the rediscovering of the Starlancer era Coalition faction in the Altair sector. The expanding of the Sirius sector with all the X-3043 chained systems is also a massive expansion of the Sirius sector as well. Our home system of Sol is also a masterful centerpiece of OP's work, I haven't seen any other mod quite touch his level of detail or literal scale of the Sol system like he has in this mod! :thumbsup:

    That is really impressive. Have there ever been any talks with some publisher to try to make a small company, license the engine officially from Microsoft and release it as a budget title on gamersgate or impulse, for example? With a budget of $100K I think this should be very well doable, depending of course whether Microsoft would be willing to sell a license for less than that... I'd certainly buy such a title immediately from gamersgate for 20, for example.

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    That is really impressive. Have there ever been any talks with some publisher to try to make a small company, license the engine officially from Microsoft and release it as a budget title on gamersgate or impulse, for example? With a budget of $100K I think this should be very well doable, depending of course whether Microsoft would be willing to sell a license for less than that... I'd certainly buy such a title immediately from gamersgate for 20, for example.

    i much so doubt microsoft would even bother with that for $100k and microsoft also doesnt support freelancer anymore! but if microsoft was willing to give up the liscence.. i would support you guys as best i could..!


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    Microsoft is just a business company which always has some middle-stage manager trying to profile himself. You only have to be lucky talking to the right guy using the right words. If the proposal be made by a company, or a publisher, stating clearly an intent to properly pay for the license of using the *engine* (not necessarily the Intellectual Property), then it'd be counter all common business logic to not succeed. The question is only how much payment would be necessary, and whether the owner of Crossfire would be able to muster that amount. This again could be done either privately (I doubt he'd like to do that), or writing a proper business plan and submitting it to the local bank that issues venture capital. Chances aren't that bad that this would succeed, especially if successful talks with Microsoft could be shown as proff of seriousness.
    What's really problematic is that apparently lots of people contributed to CF and they all would need to either be taken into the boat, or agree in written form to not have any pretensions on any winnings whatsoever. Otherwise the bank would see the whole thing as too risky.

    i have contacts to microsoft and the chances are very low that they would agree
    putting aside that crossfire contains content that must not be published for money due to licence argreements with private modelers and even companies... you already meantioned the reason for mircrosoft to revoke such an offer -> money


    microsoft has an ongoing contract with a publisher that is selling the original game for 10,- (or less)
    if microsoft would suddenly support the game again then microsoft would need to re-new the support contract or create a new one including a new GLS which in the end MS would need to host again
    thats pretty risky considering that the FL community is very small and full of free mods

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    This is ten percent luck,
    Twenty percent skill,
    Fifteen percent concentrated power of will,
    Five percent pleasure,
    Fifty percent pain,
    And a hundred percent reason to remember the name!