That's gotta be hurting enlistment (regarding CF 1.81)

There are 16 replies in this Thread. The last Post () by SWAT_OP-R8R.

    Hello,


    A couple months ago I downloaded and installed CF 1.81, and was thinking about re-joining the community, as I used to come here years ago, under a different username for which I could not recover my password way back when.


    Anyway, when I went to run the freelancer.exe, my Avira antivirus called out a trojan alert.


    So, I uploaded freelancer.exe to virustotal.com and it produced 23 positives (out of 40 total packages used) for freelancer.exe. That's 23 out of 40.


    While I certainly DO NOT believe CF 1.81 contains malware, you nevertheless have to wonder how many potential would-be members are justifiably deterred from playing Crossfire, due to all the malware warnings. Because -- to state the obvious -- an executable testing positive for malware with 23 out of 40 antivirus programs (57.5% positives) is NOT a "normal" thing.


    To make things worse, the Crossfire site -- including this forum -- all but ignores this problem of what I assume are "false positives." There should be a STICKY or something, explaining that it's neither trojans nor any other malware, and explaining why the heuristics or whatever are seeing it as such. Pretending the flashing red lights and sirens do not exist -- hoping to "downplay" it by refusing to acknowledge it -- just makes it seem more suspicious. THAT is a BIG leap of faith for some folks.


    Just sayin' ....

    there are serveral notes about this around a few forums and evan a few explaing why as i had to do a search myself as i had a simerler problem .


    however you can get around this by temporaraly disabling antivirus if your only playing the game this shouldnt be to much of a problem .


    now im not saying that any1 should leave themselfs unprotetced but if your not curently downloading anything while playing this game
    from any of the numorous download sites those ligit and those not it shouldnt cause a problem .


    it is also worth noteing that the virus protection on windows 7 is actualy preaty good however i have not had it running since i use a 3rd party out of habbit so have no idea if this will cause problems with FL/CF
    if your running wiondows 7 disable your current virus checker and try the inbuilt programe you never know.


    failing that some virus checkers alow you to add exceptions so you may be able to tell your virus checker that those in FL actuly are ok and not to panic
    i hope this helps a little
    p.s
    its also worth noteing that if your running vista or higher to run CF as administrator otehrwise youll have more exception errors after instaling with the virus disabled


    if you take this link and scroll down theres a whole chunk of user request regarding this and other loadup isues and some answers by the admin team
    http://www.moddb.com/mods/crossfire/downloads/crossfire-181

    Edited once, last by Dems ().

    Im 100% percent sure that there is info on forums about this problem but forums need some clearing and moderating before it starts to be easy to find anything here :P

    I see and can understan that very much.


    But somewhen i started as well. In times where this AV thing already was in place. And nearly all clan mates had this matter. So what i have done? Looked here for a solution and found it. I found it by using the search function and if there was something i didnt understand i asked. Thats what people are doing nowadays as well.


    And at a certain point i did trust the answers from the members here more than what the AV says - just so manny voices cant be wrong. :)


    But i understand that the topics needs to be resortet and restructured maybe too. A long process as you would need to decide what is valuable and what not. So the old posts can be moved to subforums or recycle bins in every forum. Dunno maybe something like this.

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    Yeah, searching the forums is nice and all that; but maybe you don't know that you have to register and log in before you can read replies in a thread.


    So after downloading CF, the new user has a good chance his AV will act up. Then he comes here, searches for something like "malware" or "trojan," and sees MAYBE a handful of threads. (If I remember I might have found around three or four mentioning this, some of them pretty outdated). So you click on one that says, at the top level, "my AV says 'trojan,' help, why trojan?" and the forthcoming replies are locked.


    So a potential new CF member (who might have downloaded five or ten other Freelancer mods out of the dozens out there and is just toying around deciding which one to dedicate to) can either: a) go through the trouble of registering and then logging in, in the hopes of "getting to the bottom" of the possible false-positive -- or: b) say the hell with it and load up one of the other mods.


    My whole point was that there should be a sticky or a notice right at the download page directly addressing this, saying something like "NOTICE: some antivirus software may give false positives. This is because their heuristic analyses blah blah blah...." If something like that was at the download page, right up-front, I would think that would be beneficial.


    But hey, maybe I am nuts, maybe it's not a problem at all. Maybe nobody shies away after their AV throws a fit.

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    Maybe one of the Moderators (we have plenty here as far as i know) can just write a sticky note about this and how to prevent it, so it can be seen in the open section - it´s not much work just someone who write it and make it sticky as long as Haegar did not find an other solution :) - like investing many many hours to rewrite the Launcher completly.

    Yes i can


    Sticky note


    Put this files under "exclusion rule" in ur AV
    thx for ur trust
    Mellon
    [threadclosed]Done[/threadclosed]

    ... put a sticky note alongside the mod download itself to let players know firsthand that their AV will show CF as a false positive and to follow some basic steps to remedy this error...


    ...this would have helped me big time...


    ...or is this by design, to test players ability to get the mod working with their ability to play the mod itself...personally I don't believe this though...but you never know what you get when you download something off the web these days...


    P.S. Since getting the mod to work and playing CF for over a month now, I have to say that it's awesome!!! :)

    Actually, the issue isn't solved, no unregistered will see the fake sticky of Bond, and neither his missing moderator rights on the forum...


    We should think of composing a full sticky post on a new thread with all the similar tags with virus Av and so, but it has to be convincing... :D


    Or somebody was thinking of pssing over this issue...

    Chars: [CFPD]Michael~something (x25), [CFPD]~SQMS~{[(store)]} (x3), [CFPD]xfer, Event~Manager~Michael, StarfIier~EM~Michael, Event_Team_2, [GR]Michael[SP] and a blueprint of [CFPD]Sephirothis

    Edited once, last by Michael ().

    Well, if the codename of Nomad Queen is OPR8R then we agree xD



    So, any ideas of how to start the message ? In that sticky we should also invite guests to register in the easy 2 steps :D

    Chars: [CFPD]Michael~something (x25), [CFPD]~SQMS~{[(store)]} (x3), [CFPD]xfer, Event~Manager~Michael, StarfIier~EM~Michael, Event_Team_2, [GR]Michael[SP] and a blueprint of [CFPD]Sephirothis

    I'm suddenly having second thought on organizing Nomad hunt... :D

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    actually you have rights bond, on the wiki... on several other areas of the forum and on the admin panel
    if you would use them regulary i probably might consider to hand out more rights, until then it remains this way


    Note: I dont like closed threads or comments about gravedigging
    in my eyes the only reason to close threads is when ppl start to argue or when rules get broken

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