How do I create a second player?

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    I currently play Freelancer and CF2.0 as Wombat1940 and have completed all campaigns and visited and mapped every System in SP. This has all been done over the last 8 years. I would now like to again commence, totally from the beginning of Freelancer, as if a so called novice player. At the moment when I commence CF2.0 as a new player it takes me straight to level 18, I assume because it knows I've already completed the Freelancer Campaign. However, maybe CF2.0 starts at level 18. I can't remember. :tired:

    Irrespective, do I need to reinstall Freelancer and then CF2.0 to achieve a totally novice start, or can I achieve the same within my current single setup? Thanks.

    Quote from wombat1940

    I currently play Freelancer and CF2.0 as Wombat1940 and have completed all campaigns and visited and mapped every System in SP. This has all been done over the last 8 years.

    That's quite impressive, spending 8 whole years of mapping every system.

    Crossfire starts at level 18, yes... in Multiplayer and in Open SP (without doing the Campaigns). If you reinstall your game, there's the option while activating the mod about how to start and Open SP (I think it was called) is where you start without doing the Campaigns, just do whatever you like at level 18 in New York (just like in the Multiplayer).

    If you really want to start again, maybe backup your saves (Documents / My Games / Freelancer / Accts / Singleplayer) first and then delete them. That should reset you at the very beginning, unless you started with the Campaign modes. If that's the case, then you need to reinstall the game and set it to "Open SP" (again, I think that's what it was called) and it'll set you off as if you've completed the Campaigns at level 18 and in New York, basically like in the Multiplayer.

    Maybe there's a way to activate it without reinstalling the whole game, but I'm not sure since I always start it with the Campaigns ON.


    But, here's the question though... since you already mapped everything, is it really worth it spending so much time doing it again?

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    Hello Wombat1940,

    if you would like to start the single-player campaign (from level 1), you need only to un-tick the "OpenSP" option in Launcher settings (no need to reinstall the game).


    Hope this helps!

    Thanks Ili'.

    No I wouldn't map everything again. But I would complete the campaigns. I have a very bad memory (hospital induced) and have forgotten anything about the campaigns. (Although the name Hovis does ring a bell …… Ha!). The mapping was completed in conjunction with Martind Forlon who wrote the System Info for each System. Both are available at WIKI.

    Thanks Wanderer. Yes that helps. It seems a simple solution for me to try.

    For interest, what does 'Open SP' infer? What is different about it compared to not opening it? Thanks.

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    Thanks Ili'.

    No I wouldn't map everything again. But I would complete the campaigns. I have a very bad memory (hospital induced) and have forgotten anything about the campaigns.

    Sorry to hear about your memory, mate... it's ok to forget things about any games, after all... they are virtual (i.e. not real), so... the things in Real Life matter, as the game itself here does not matter, but the people who are behind it and in this community.

    Here are the save games again if you consider playing it through fully equipped:


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    For interest, what does 'Open SP' infer? What is different about it compared to not opening it? Thanks.

    Open SP as far as I remember is for people who just want to skip the Campaign(s) altogether and play normally as you would in Multiplayer (level 18 / New York). ;)

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    Sorry to hear about your memory, mate... it's ok to forget things about any games, after all... they are virtual (i.e. not real), so... the things in Real Life matter, as the game itself here does not matter, but the people who are behind it and in this community.

    Unfortunately my very poor memory does extend into my normal life, however …….. playing Freelancer and CF2.0 again, will be like a new experience so it does have some +ve's. It just makes it hard to build on previously leant experiences. Fortunately, I haven't forgotten how to read or write. Ha! But mastering simple tasks here at the Forum have to be constantly re-learnt. :frown: Like: "Quoting", which I now achieved with this post. :thumbsup:

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    Hello Wombat1940,

    if you would like to start the single-player campaign (from level 1), you need only to un-tick the "OpenSP" option in Launcher settings (no need to reinstall the game).


    Hope this helps!

    I also have "Freelancer" installed on another computer. But where are the Launcher setting in Freelancer, even making the simple choice of playing in SP or MP modes? And what about Windows mode or non-Windows mode? Thanks.

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    Quote from (IOC)Wanderer

    Hello Wombat1940,

    if you would like to start the single-player campaign (from level 1), you need only to un-tick the "OpenSP" option in Launcher settings (no need to reinstall the game).


    Hope this helps!

    Oh it worked perfectly. I do remember that introductory video, and how great to see it again!

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    I also have "Freelancer" installed on another computer. But where are the Launcher setting in Freelancer, even making the simple choice of playing in SP or MP modes? And what about Windows mode or non-Windows mode? Thanks.

    Freelancer (the original game) does not have these settings, nor the launcher as such. MP mode can be chosen from the main menu in the game, and Open SP can be activated if Freelancer Mod Manager is installed (it is one of the small mods that come with FLMM by default).


    Window-mode lets you run the game within a window on desktop (same way as browser or other programs) instead of running in fullscreen (when the game occupies the entire screen space).


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    Oh it worked perfectly. I do remember that introductory video, and how great to see it again!

    With Crossfire mod, the intro cutscene should look a lot better than you might remember from 8 years ago :) And you will surely enjoy the refreshed campaign as well. Good luck with the fights though!

    I was able to get Freelancer running on my Tablet and CF2.0 (OpenSP unchecked) on my Notebook.

    I commenced the Campaign in CF2.0 and found Juni in the bar in Manhattan. There was also a CF2.0 promotional billboard running on the side of a building as I landed in Manhattan.

    This, of course, was not the case with the Freelancer Campaign running on the Tablet, in fact, I'm unsure it was the Campaign at all! Trent was dressed very differently, looked different without his CF2.0 tattoo, Juni was not in the bar and when I took-off from Manhattan, I instantly moved to level 2.


    Are there two different Campaigns? A Freelancer one and a CF2.0 one? Thanks

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    Are there two different Campaigns? A Freelancer one and a CF2.0 one? Thanks

    Yes, the Original Freelancer Campaign and the Crossfire one that continues the story.


    Did you take the mission prior to launch? And the leveling up is increased in Crossfire, that's why you instantly moved to level 2.

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    Yes, the Original Freelancer Campaign and the Crossfire one that continues the story.

    That's very interesting as maybe I never played the CF2.0 Campaign. I played the Freelancer Campaign from the disk which I still have. Well …. I thought I did ….. I'm sure I did ……. (me and my bloody memory, or the lack of it. Ha!)


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    Did you take the mission prior to launch? And the leveling up is increased in Crossfire, that's why you instantly moved to level 2.


    In CF2.0 I did, but hadn't taken any missions in Freelancer and that's where I thought achieved level 2 upon launching.


    And in Freelancer, where is Juni ? She's not in the Bar.


    Thanks.

    Yeah, if you want to play the Crossfire Campaign, you have to finish the Original one first, mate.

    As for Juni, if you're right in the very beginning of the Campaign and you already spoke to her in the bar, go to the Armory, that's where she is waiting for you.

    Cheers!

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    Yeah, if you want to play the Crossfire Campaign, you have to finish the Original one first, mate.

    Ok ………


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    As for Juni, if you're right in the very beginning of the Campaign and you already spoke to her in the bar, go to the Armory, that's where she is waiting for you.

    [Remembering I have: Freelancer running on my Tablet and CF2.0 running on my Notebook.]


    In CF2.0 (on my Notebook) when Trent goes to the bar for the first time, Juni is sitting with "friend" and when he (Trent) speaks to her she directs him to the Armory. No problem.

    In Freelancer (on my Tablet) when I go to the Bar for the first time, Juni is not there. Trent cannot and has not spoken to her. Why is she not there?


    However, at the moment I'm having trouble playing on the Tablet. Its decided to lock me out of Desktop mode. It only works in Tablet mode even though the keyboard is attached to the Tablet and Desktop mode selected. The keyboard cannot input any key strokes which makes it in possible to play Freelancer. :( Just my luck …….

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    Quote from (IOC)Wanderer

    Here is how the singleplayer campaign should begin in FL+CF 2.0:

    I need to understand what do you mean by "FL+CF2.0" ?

    The video clip you show is what I see in FL (or at least I think it is …….). Can't fully check at the moment because of the problem with my Tablet (see post above).

    When I play the alternative CF.20 video clip (on my Notebook), Trent is dressed differently and has facial tattoos.

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    I need to understand what do you mean by "FL+CF2.0" ?

    Apologies, I meant "Freelancer with Crossfire 2.0 mod".


    Quote from wombat1940

    In CF2.0 (on my Notebook) when Trent goes to the bar for the first time, Juni is sitting with "friend" and when he (Trent) speaks to her she directs him to the Armory. No problem.

    In Freelancer (on my Tablet) when I go to the Bar for the first time, Juni is not there. Trent cannot and has not spoken to her. Why is she not there?

    Looks like Crossfire on the Notebook works just fine, unlike I thought (and hence posted the video), but something is wrong with Freelancer on the Tablet.

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    The video clip you show is what I see in FL (or at least I think it is …….). Can't fully check at the moment because of the problem with my Tablet (see post above).

    When I play the alternative CF.20 video clip (on my Notebook), Trent is dressed differently and has facial tattoos.

    That clip was shot while playing Crossfire. Trent's and Juni's outfits may be different depending on the choices made during mod activation.

    For example, see the pictures of "Crossfire Trent" and "Original Trent" in this topic: Crossfire 2.0 - Mod options