Arena rulles

There are 13 replies in this Thread. The last Post () by Joker..

  • i only want to ask this, in ARENA system is alowed to open fire without asking before for pvp ? i mean in Arena no RP even the name tell us is a place where gladiators meet in my eyes Arena is the most dengeuros place on this server and if u dont want pvp dont go there and if u go there and u dont want pvp u can suicide all the time .


    form what i know from some GRs in past which i talked this is alowed i mean open fire without warnig i dont say is nice i say is legal from what i know , pls corect me if i am wrong .

  • Arena is place for agreed fights no matter what license is used by players, and events. There is no NPCs interference so ppl liking perfect fight conditions have place for fight. There also not count normal pvp rules regarding suicides. Arena should be avoided if is placed bounty on player and also player should leave Arena if he got bounty on his character, or another player ask him for RP fight outside Arena.


    Arena is not a place:


    - where you can go to avoid RP
    - where you can go and start kill everyone just for fun. It is not free killing zone.

  • Forlon's reply is correct.


    "Agreed fights", if two or a several are dueling, you do not start shooting at one of them out of nowhere because of the "no RP = no asking before shooting" rule. Even if somebody you want to duel with choses to duel with the other guy there, same thing, no interfering. If a player is afk or just sitting, it can happen that he suddenly gets killed by a player, his fault for idling in a dangerous arena, no matter his license. But you don't make a living out of that.

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    Arena is not a place:


    - where you can go to avoid RP



    who decide this , i mean how u can prove players who sit there avoid ur so called RP ?


    and from ive alredy told i have this info about no warnig fire in arena from other GR he told me is ok but not nice and if is ilegal to fire no warnig then is the most safe place where u can sit i like that :D

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    why the frag is it so important for u to shoot players oorp, just for fun and without warning?



    is not important i only wanted to know if i break rulles doing that and i dont do that ofen i did that few times yeah for fun plus i was kill in arena many times in this way i thought is legal

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    who decide this , i mean how u can prove players who sit there avoid ur so called RP ?


    Forlon already explained that:

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    Arena should be avoided if is placed bounty on player and also player should leave Arena if he got bounty on his character, or another player ask him for RP fight outside Arena.


    In other words, adding the "proof" part, if anyone has a bounty on their head (proof = /bounty screenshot with the player's name visible in Arena), they should avoid Arena BUT they ARE allowed to enter it. IF somebody wants his bounty, he must leave Arena as that's the "Avoiding RP" case.
    Another case is, a smuggler hiding in Arena with BMG in his cargo (proof cargo scan screenshot). If a cop wants him and asks him to come, he has to leave Arena to face the RP case.
    It's not the same case if a police wants to ask a pirate out, or viceversa, a pirate to ask a police out, if the player went into Arena while being chased by a cop/pirate then he MUST leave Arena when asked, as he should never have went there (proof, screenshot of warning the target player for a tax/fine/warning before he went into the Arena, with /time tag or on the same chat page/in one screen), BUT if the player was there since before, not related to a RP case, and somebody else wants to "RP" with him, then he is not forced to leave as it has no relation to a short term RP-case scenario like bounties, BMGs, fines or taxes. That can easely be solved with a normal duel inside the Arena.
    Exception of all above is if they are in an event, ofc, nobody is allowed to interfere with the participants of an official event. Any event done by an Event Manager is official, wether it's on the events list of the website or not.


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    Arena, Cube Arena & Coliseum


    These are event systems and are not part of the role-playing universe. Players can use these systems for training, testing ship configurations and taking part in events. Players should not use these systems to avoid RP or protect stores ships. Players within these systems (eligible to RP) must leave if another player wishes to RP with them. The player must exit in a timely fashion though not necessarily through the nearest exit.


    Note the "must leave" part.
    And as the previous line says, it's a system for training, testing ships, taking part in events, and obviously for an "Arena", dueling. NOT a free kill zone, it has a purpose behind the name, not a "no rules" place.

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  • if is a bounty matter is very clear u have leave arena or new york


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    It's not the same case if a police wants to ask a pirate out, or viceversa, a pirate to ask a police out, if the player went into Arena while being chased by a cop/pirate then he MUST leave Arena when asked, as he should never have went there


    this one is very tricky lets say i tax someone in X who can be cop or freelancer dont mater he ESCAPE (run) and he go in arena cuz maybe when he undock from planet crossfire he alredy wanted go there i cannot know that never no one can read people minds , so u people say i can call it back from arena cuz him avoid someting (he avoid my fun) and he must come back becouse he break rulles someone will say so that guy break rulles cuz i am to NOOB to can tax him ?


    thats way i ask who decide this how it can be posible to judge such a things this is very relative and no one can do that and i dont want to control no one to do what i want cuz is not my ping pong ball to play it .

  • Actually its not that complicated:


    You can only tax one in public chat if you are in the same system, that means once he is in x and you tax him, he should pay or fight in x. If he escapes to Arena than thats not what he should do, cause Arena is free RP zone and thus he tries to escape freely. He then would have time to leave Arena so you can get your chance to get your tax. If he does not leave, then you should contact the GRs online or use the ticket system on this portal to report the rule breaker.


    Non RP - System means not, you are free to do what you think is right. Attacking without warning just applies to RP between police and pirates. As Arena is a non-RP zone this rule does not apply there. Arena is meant to be a place for training for new players as well as some events. If you engage there someone in RP manners than you are wrong as its a non RP zone.


    The whole mess lets summarize to one famous saying.
    As the question so the answer.


    That means threat the players like you want to be treated. The more you support them in the beginning the more you will get back later. Dont be so narrow minded and stick to your idea of playing. It would more help to see the whole, also if that means to loose some fights or opportunities to earn your well deserved money. Crossfire is a community game and thus we would also encourage new comers to get established and get advanced. Same as you also did at a certain point and got advanced.

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  • Thx Huor, cannot tell this better :thumbup:

  • ok thx for the answer Hour it make sense what u say i understand that ,i ask this cuz i dont want abuse no one or to be abuse with this things


    i have only one more question if i am alowed , same scenario tax a player he refuse pay tax he kill me then he escape and go Arena ,basically what i want to know is , after he kill me once or i kill him once its consider like RP was done and he can go sit arena ?

  • Well its simple math. If you tax or fine your opponent before he enters a non-RP zone than he should engage or pay you. If you loose your chance to win or get the tax/fine paid then you lost your chance on this approach. As you can only tax a player in the same system you are free to engage the same opponent again if he also is in the same system. Once you lost your chance and the target escapes then he did escape. You are free to follow and try to catch him again. If thats not possible cause the player hides in a non-RP zone use the ticket system or try to contact an GR online. If you ask the player to leave a non-RP zone so you can RP with him then he at a certain point should confirm - if he doesnt report your concern.


    Agreed thats not a solution to your actual problem in time. But with the time being the situation may get better and better.


    You dont need to judge on your own what is right or wrong. We - the staff are here to help out and take over that job. Reports are heard and decisions are met. GRs are connected and can discuss situations on the server. We are not blind, put a bit more trust in the server staff. And take into consideration that at every end of the line there is a human being as you are one on the other end of the line. We are not free from mistakes but that must not mean you are free to search your own justification.


    Joker:
    I played a long time as pirate on the server and am a pirate by heart even now for the few occasions i join the current server. I very understand that its hard to earn the coins for paying the rum and keep the ladies happy - or paying the crew. At the end being a smart ass pirate is more lucrative as being the bad ass pirate.

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    At the end being a smart ass pirate is more lucrative as being the bad ass pirate.


    +1


    But as I don't hink Huor answered this:

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    basically what i want to know is , after he kill me once or i kill him once its consider like RP was done and he can go sit arena ?


    Normally, yes, if a cop fines you, he kills you once (the one who does the fine/tax has to kill, else, it's not over, same like with a bounty, if a merc comes after a cop with a bounty on his head, it's not over until the merc kills the cop, no matter how many times the cop kills the merc), that's the end of the RP case, like with a bounty, but people keep fighting for longer for revenge, or just to fight, or forced by the hunter, and such.

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    At the end being a smart ass pirate is more lucrative as being the bad ass pirate


    can i be both? just kidding


    and with last michael post now is clear thx