Why don't the rules apply to everyone?

So, I am flying and some screwhead named "1138" decides he'd gonna be a smart mouth, and starts cracking wise...about how no one should be in a redemption without CFPD permission. I wasn't in one... I was in an APC. But my partner was, and he says that since CFPD isn't on the server, it's hard to get permission. This smart mouth decides he's gonna talk about how that depends on whether they are tagged or not. So, I remind him of the BIG RED POST outside Manhattan that says if you are in a clan, you gotta be tagged. It's right there for everyone to see. Am I wrong? Does it not say right outside of Manhatten in big red letters that if you are in a clan, you have to be tagged? Now, this smart mouth seems to think that everyone should know who he is, since he says he wrote most of the rules himself. He says if someone is taking a break, they don't have to be tagged. Where is that in the rules for everyone to read? So I remind him that the rules are right there, and I'll meet him in NY so we can see for yourselves. He decides to threaten me, and tell he he's gonna kill me for mouthing off to him.

I don't care who he is. I've had the rule book thrown at me for what I can do in my clan. Fine. Everyone else is gonna eat that same rulebook, regardless of who they are.

And if this schmuck is really CFPD, he deserves to be kicked from his clan. No cop gets to act like that. I am not getting threatened, because I QUOTED THE RULES HE CLAIMS TO HAVE WRITTEN! No interpretation, no bending or twisting of them... right there in red letters. Simple, plain, and easy to understand. Where is the issue?

But... if he IS taking a break from being in his clan, and that's why he's playing an untagged character, what right does he have opening his mouth? He's not tagged. He's not showing he supports his clan. He's not displaying any support for his clan or system at all by running around tagged as 1138. If he's taking a break from being in his clan, he's got no right to say a word about whether or not people are buying redemptions in his system. For all anyone could know, he could just be some schmuck stirring up trouble. I'm supposed to respect someone, who can't respect his own clan, or the rules he claimed to write?

Why don't the rules apply to everyone? Why don't they apply equally to everyone?

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Unless you are a member of a clan, you must not use clan tags on your character. If you are a member of a clan, you must use the correct clan tag on all characters. Clan tags are set to a specific string of characters, no deviation from this is allowed. If you join a clan you will have 7 days to get your characters properly tagged and to delete untagged characters.

Ok. So, after conversation with Gunny, as that's who it turns out to be... he says that we should know ahead of time to treat the clan as if it is active on the server, even though it's not active on the server. How is that right? Moreover.... where is that posted? Not asking where it is posted that they are taking a break... asking where it is posted that everyone should still treat them on the forums as if they are NOT taking a break? Where is that in the rules? It's not a respect thing.... it has nothing to do with respect. You don't get respect by flying around in an untagged character, telling people they need to get permission from a clan that's not active on the server, claiming that you wrote the rules and thus you can't have them quoted back to you. That's someone acting as if they are above the rules.

If CFPD is taking a break, fine. Let them take a break. What right do they have to come on in untagged characters, and act as if they AREN'T taking a break? What... like calling "Time out" and "time in"? If the rules don't apply to everyone, what good are they? If CFPD are going to fly around in untagged characters, they should not be allowed to make people treat them as if they are tagged. That goes for everyone, right?

I agree, there were Role Play responses... and if this had been handled in ANY WAY like a role playing situation, then none of this would have happened. It never would have gotten to this situation. Let's just make it clear then.

Stranger named 1138 initiates the conversation. The character tag is nothing other than 1138.

1138 - nice ship you have there
1138 - did you get permission to purchase it?
Cygna - Since CFPD isn't on the server any more, it's kind of hard to get permission
1138 - Sure they are, they just aren't tagged
Hawkinz - Then they are violating the rules, since all clan members must be tagged
1138 - Oh, we got a smart mouth here. Don't quote the rules to me, I wrote most of them.
Hawkinz - I'm a smart mouth for repeating what is in big red letters outside Manhattan?
1138 - I'm going to kill you for mouthing off to me.

Now, that is abbreviated, but that's how it went. Not once did he identify himself. His responses weren't Role Play. He wasn't acting the Tough Cop. There are no Under Cover cops, nor are there rules that allow them to be in "Plain Clothes" or out of uniform. He even implies that he is well aware of others running around on the server not wearing their clan tags. This wasn't about egging him on. This wasn't about stolen ships.

In fact, this wasn't the first time an issue has popped up regarding clans taking action against others, without actually being on the server when the offense happened.
***PX Warning to UR on breach of Peace Treaty***

Sure CFPD is taking a break. Unfortunately, just as in that thread there, there are far more UNANSWERED posts about CFPD being no more, than there are about CFPD just taking a break.

I also still remind everyone... if CFPD was taking a break from being an active clan... then they were TAKING A BREAK. They therefore give up the right to say anything. It doesn't matter if they are still paying $30 a month ($20 euros, right?) for their system. They called a big Time Out. The game fines players if they decide to take a Mini Time out... if you hit F1 while you are in combat, you have to pay for it... so there is precedent that taking a time out comes with penalties. CFPD told everyone that they didn't want to play no more... doesn't matter if it was just "Until Further Notice". No one announced that the CFPD break was over... so there is no reason whatsoever why anyone should acknowledge any CFPD characters ACTING LIKE CFPD on or off the server. By their own admission they are taking a break. That's what taking a break means... it means they are stepping out of it. They aren't part of it. That means they aren't playing for the time being. You take a break at work, you don't get paid, and you don't have to work.

But what I'm hearing, is that the rules don't really apply in this case. I mean, Abras stood up for the rules, but otherwise I'm told there are subtleties and nuances here I don't understand?

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First, CFPD is still renting it's system so it is still considered an Active Clan even tho not much CFPD pilots a flying around

No. it's not Even Though there aren't many CFPD flying around... they might be renting a system, but they declared they were TAKING A BREAK and STEPPING AWAY FROM PLAYING. That is completely different from the number of active members on the server dropping due to other duties in RL stepping in the way.

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Second, 1138, as a CFPD member on hiatus, is acting like an ally of CFPD and has been given the powers to enforce the Redemption property rights.

Show me the post. At one point in the conversation, Gunny was quite proud of the fact that he only had 4 hours of play on that 1138 character. So, show me the forum post that proves you out on this.

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Third, yup he's got a smart mouth... I suggest you don't bite too hard tho cause he is teasing you for fun.

He wasn't teasing. He was angry. He was angry because some guy he didn't know from Adam was quoting the rules to him. He made that clear by IMMEDIATELY getting insulting at that point. He made that clear by boasting about how he didn't need to know the rules because he wrote them. He was angry because he wasn't getting the respect he thought he deserved... and before you say anything about GUNNY deserving respect, this was all happening with some "1138" not Gunny.