Clan foundation and recruitment: [Battle Command]

Sometimes I just CANT speak in englesh correctly to express my point.
Sometimes the other possible future members just CANT speak or understand english at all.

If you disagree with it, then we just couldn't recruit the members here, becouse we can recrut only the russians, becouse of our clan membership and the native language. So the forum thread will be completely useless as the game system chat already is. We NEED this possibility.

So, the question is - can the people speak russian on this topic (not on the whole forum)?

heh...

I didn't new all the specifics of titling and other in firt place. All what I've asked admis is about placing both of russian and english versions of the content. I just coudn't predict all the diffirent ways.

Today, the searching of new members is a big problem cos we cant use our native language in common as a some kind of token 'russian - not russian". So we use the old methods like this.

In this case, we just spoke about of some clan interrelations subject what also can be usefull as an information to another russians. And I did't seen another good reasons to continue this dialog in PM. Especially considering that I would translate all of these my "expressions" for ages...

Слушай, я гляже тебе все прямо вынь, да положь, прямо как Хуору.
У нас тут только флаг стоит и парочку наших людей тут мимо пробежало - какоой тут нафиг "чего от нас ждать?", когда мы сами еще понятия не имеем чего ожидать от других и как самим здесь себя вести? У нас - факт, по английски шпрехен зи только большая часть руководства, и те с трудом. Все. Остальных останавливает прийти сюда только факт наличия английского. Отсюда уже вкорне меняется ситуация внешних отношений, потому что в случае мембершипа - подавляющая ее часть в англикйском ни в зуб ногой. Сам представь себе ситуацию, чисто с позиции наличия языкового барьера в индивидуальном порядке. Соклан знает какие у нас с определенными кланами отношщения. К остальным у нас обычно условно нейтральные, в понимании, как "нес не трогают - мы не трогаем", но он не сможет адекватно среагировать в случае если он летает в данный момент один, а к нему кто-то непонятно зачем пристал.
Дай решить в начале эту проблему, а потом уже поговорим о политике. Кроме того, я тут пока еще узнал два-три клана от силы, и впечатления от них сугубо предвзяты, а информация на текущий момент крайне скудна, так как никто пока в привычном для меня языке со мной ею делиться не собирается. И я лично не собираюсь с разбегу ломать неизвестно зачем систему, действующую по меньшей мере не меньше чем ваша, только ради того, что бы утихомирить чью-то параною. У нас черным по белому написано в первом посту "нейтральны", как любые мерки.
хотите узнать о нас по больше - терпите. Проф.переводчиков у нас нет вообще, а когда я тут прямым текстом попросил помощи у кого-нибудь, кто может адекватно быстро перевести мегабайты наших внешних понятий и договоров - отозвался только один, и тот утух едва дошло до дела. А до тех пор, работаю над всей инфой лишь я один. И я, блин, человек, а не автопереводчик. Я и то терпеливей отношуюсь к людям, которым очень тяжело общаться на моем родном языке, пусть даже если пишут безобразно и неграмотно.

По поводу РП отдельный вопрос. С позиции мерка есть границы поведения как коп и как пират, с той разнцией, что нельзя пользоваться их уникальными особенности, как например - грабеж или штраф. В остальном, мерков заказать номинально может кто угодно, что уже реально разграничивает мерка по ситуации, как - выполняет договор с пиратом, значит его можно с ним прировнять. Аналогично и с копом. Притом, никто не может запретить мерку получить определенный профит с грабежа в команде с пиратом, если это записано в условиях договора - разве не так?
Или у вас тут все как "ай лов ю"? Коп, значит дерешься люто и бешено со вселенским злом, а пират, значит не менее сурово портишь жизнь остальным?
ну тогда мы кажись явно не туда попали, потому что в это явно не самое адекватное определение рп как такового. И тогда я начинаю понимать, почему он тут у вас полным ходом летит ко всем бабушкам и дедушкам.
Это я гвоорю с позиции собственного опыта фрилансера. Был не на одном сервере, так что знаю о чем говорю.

В общем. Мы уже уселись, пытаемся прийти в себя после конца года. Усталые, не соображающие, едва глаза прямо смотреть заставляем. Давайте вы не будете на нас сейчас в данынй момент давить, ладно? В противном случае, я вынужден буду закрыть проект и искать другой фриловский сервер. Еще одного беспочвенного и идиотского холивара я не потерплю.

P.S. Можешь перевести сам, можешь и не переводить, но ты явно невовремя завел речь по-русски среди недовольной публики, когда у меня экзамены третий день подряд, и я тут вообще только мимо пробегал.
Сейчас лично мое состояние можно выразить, как "гори все огнем". Через неделю-две мозг очнется, но сейчас я эти трактаты переводить не собираюсь, ибо времени нет.

P.P.S. Извиняюсь, если обидел, или если показалось, что выражаюсь доволньо резко, но за моими плечами порядка 40 человек союза, чего уж там о клане гвоорить. По другому уже не могу. Ответственность не того уровня, что бы думать толкьо сегодняшним днем.

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SWAT Community toolbar Clans Forums Menu, due to the increasing number of unofficial clans, there may appear a new menu with them, separated from the official ones (with a clan tag in the game, for easier member's usage, as them are the ones who own items ,ships, etc, and may be contacted more often.) I will make the changes as soon as I got confirmation of BC and few other situations, including OP's opinion about some other toolbar-related topics.

Sounds good.

Of course we wish to be part of this community. But I've just talked about that somthings can't be done today and now. We must move forward a little to expand some of the features like renting system. For expample - on other game we paying for clan-alert system becouse we have at least 23 people there. But here we have only five. So, I cant predict the thing that will we survive here or not. If not, then there is no reason to expand our possibilities. It will be a waste of time and money, right?
Now the clan just moving through the "familiarity" phase. But if the future will promise, so we will expand.

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I, of course, only accept english answers, as they'll be the only I'll understand

I hope they will... usually I speak in russian only with russians... I mean - If I hear the russian sounds among the english - I will speak in russian with those who just told that on it It's just a natural reflex. I hope you're realize it. But translating the big texts... You better kill me...

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but, do you want another link to appear on the toolbar instead of that one ?

The Alliance link, may be.
http://btlcmd.org.ru/a/index.php

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if you choose that one, as well as PX forum has an intro site with a flash and then leads you to a forum.

We are currently have no portal. All our resourses are currently separated from each one. Sorry...

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Is it the right one ? or you wish another logo appears up there.

The logo you've present is just a head-picture. Usual clan logo is here

hmm... let me think about it... I mean, talk about it with our "artists".

Ok. As i promised, now I will translate some of the things that I said in russian not long ago... with some new information.

1. About renting the system
We don't rent any system now, becouse we currently have only a few people here. The clan is just set the flag up. Any further development is another question. So, I hope, as we will grow larger, the Idea of renting system will become more actual. But for sure - now it will be just a waste of money.

2. Foreign policy
We don't know any clan here close enough to make any conclusion about "friend of foe". Standard relation ship with unknown clans is neythral. It means - we are not agressive, but usually we answering to a opening fire with opening fire.
Usually, the main task of clan is the global diplomatic victory (If the game can provide this ability). It means, we have a lot of friends what cause sometimes rarely fighting (except for tournaments or contractual fights). BUT. Our enemies are usually ideological. It means we have a few enemies not here for now, but they are really hate us. Just becouse we did survive... and struk back
Generally speaking - we are good, but only if it is possible. If not - we become very angry.

3. domestic policy
The clan has a complex structure. Inside there is a hybrid policy, outwardly seeming imperialist or even dictate. In fact in different places we have different customs. Somewhere dictatorship where it is needed. Somewhere in complete freedom wherever it is needed and useful.
In war we present a rigid discipline. In the rest - each clan member usually doing what he wants.
That's all I can say for now.

4. War and peace
Declare peace treaty to us is usually more ease than war. Just bcouse we're usually don't declare war to another clan. It must be very serious reason for us to do it. Cause of it, usually the others are declaring the war. But we're hate the long wars. They are boring and tedious. If we see that war will not over soon enough - we are forcing the events to it's end. Good or bad - not important.
The war in which we feel hatred or relations going beyond the game will be considered as HolyWar. I really hope we never see it here.
Peaceful relations also are different. They can be as usual non-aggression pact (written or oral) or a certain type of union (commercial, military, in-game, intergame, etc.). Currently, we have many treaties with other clans in other games, but we are also have the intergame alliance. It means, the others can come here after us.

That is all for now... need some rest

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1. I don`t care how many ppl you presenting- 4 or 40, on this server approx. 300 fixed players, and everyone wanna know who is he deal with, already told you.

I'm already aswered this querstion. 3 times.

Seek here (first post):

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- Allies (clans in this game): none
- Hostiles (clans in this game): none
- Clanwars (in this game): none
- Standard relations with unknown clans: Neytral

Is this enough?

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. All your probs- university, colledge or else- just your probs

You're telling this to EMERCOM student. It means - for me is no such thing "it's only your problem".
Enough of this.

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if you came here, please follow writen and "unwriten" rules, respect other ppl.

We have someone bothering? Breaking something?
No? So, what's the problem?

If toy don't understand these words - read this and stop tread on me.

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Your relation status "we don`t know what we want from this server" couldn`t be infinite.

If you are don't care about us, so we do aswell. If you can't understand elementary things (even in russian) - I will not punch the wall with my head.
Remember: We can not do everything at once.
You're really need to more patient.

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nothing more than your decision

it's NOT ONLY my decision.

heh...
I repeat this again. We have only set up the flag here. If there is a complaint - I always listen. But not in that tone and not in the forum. Ask these questions in PM next time.

[BC]afGun, out.

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If you already have clan rules for BC then i would please you to try to translate them to english and present them here

in progress, but 3 moths....
Also there is a Alliance Treatment, but this text is under translation already a half-year.

We will post it here, when it's done. I really hope soon :-\

The first post updated.

Translated verions of [BC] Main Rules and General Ingame Rules are added.

See in the spoiler below the clan statistics.

Next expected updates:

1. Ingame Crossfire Clan Charter
2. Inner Resourses Rules
3. The Alliance of United Clans'n'Nations Agreement.

And may be more...

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probably in a new thread?

If you wish then can be. I don't know where I may post these... really huge documents...

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i would love to read you Charta in english

I've sent the request for help with translation to russian members of this commuity here to speed up the process even slightly. But as you can see...

I don't think so. The Alliance Treatment is the InterGame document. Not roleplay.

But if it will not too stand, then why not...

Inner Resourses Rules are added to first post. See in the spoiler with other clan rules.
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Also the Ingame Freelancer (Crossfire) Clan Charter was added. See in the second spoiler in the Charter section.

First post updated.

1. We are founded a new clan in game World of Tanks. Currently number of clan-players is 5.
2. Another russian clan from WoT with 70 players is currently accepted the AoUCN Treaty for consideration. The results will be announced at a later.
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Also, sad to say, most of our clan members were too tired cause of last holy-war. I hope, the activity will be recovered asap.