Another Pirated CF??

Have seen this server several times in the past too, not so much the last cpl of weeks but before that it was on a lot

yeah, you can get the password very easiliy (since they use phpbb community forum and someona mybe knows something about that)
i tried it to see whats the ping on it and i had it around 350 and kicked my out immidiately.
and noone is playing there either

this server is still the best

Maybe OP's emigrating..to austrailia...or attempting global domination..

1st one

no really - i already told those guys that they are not allowed to run CF on their server... if they wont react i will get angry

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Originally posted by SWAT_OP-R8R
1st one

no really - i already told those guys that they are not allowed to run CF on their server... if they wont react i will get angry

Hi there...
Just to clarify OP - you didn't tell 'those guys' anything. LoL
Question - How are they to react if you dont contact them. Oooops I just did.

BTW - Getting Angry wont help

"Australasian (CF)" is there for lag reasons. Not such a big deal.

lag reasons? That makes no sense. It will resolve teh lag of course, but nobody else will play on it. So to say tis for lag makes sense but is sensless.

The server is not running so SWAT peeps can come play.

Infact, I would expect your lag (and therefore kick) to work the same as if we tried playing on the SWAT German server.

The server was actually password protected not in an attempt to hide it from you but to stop SWAT'ers from playing on it. Our intention is certainly not to reduce numbers from the German Swat server.

We do EnJoy the experience without the lag thou and obviously we all think it's an awesome mod. Congrats.

A better connection? I am in the western part of the US and I have a better connection to the germany server then the australian one. The only thing the au server could offer is the same maps as it seems to not have nearly the same size player size so it is good for getting use to the map without having LP flly around and take pot shots at you.

1. i DID send a message... i also wrote a few pms to a guy that plays there and i was online there aswell

2. there is an agreement of usage for this mod which has been broken

3. even the readme does say to ask for permission

4. to get that mod running you had to edit/manipulate several things on the mod... and that was not permitted

5. there is only 1 CF community and that is this one here

how can it be that they got the same commdities in the same places on the same days as we have?

today eg they are absolutely identically distributed as on our server.

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because they get their updates directly from the SWAT server

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Originally posted by SWAT_OP-R8R
1. i DID send a message... i also wrote a few pms to a guy that plays there and i was online there aswell

2. there is an agreement of usage for this mod which has been broken

3. even the readme does say to ask for permission

4. to get that mod running you had to edit/manipulate several things on the mod... and that was not permitted

5. there is only 1 CF community and that is this one here

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1. not recieved. sending a msg to a player aint contacting.

2. the agreement was studied before the server was put up and we obviously believe it has not been broken.

3. not in the readme we have. however we did ask you before we started and permission was not denied. OP you knew we were doing this months ago.

4. to get a crossfire server up and running NO Crossfire files need be edited, as you would know.

5. agreed.

A. WE cant play on the SWAT server.
B. LAG is the ONLY issue WE have. (it's difficult to kill AI, Impossible to PvP)

Actually, I cant understand why this is such a big deal for your server. It's ok to play offline single player but not ok to play together without the lag, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD LoL. Come on fellas relax.

@Boyscout - We playing the crossfire mod. Whats so annoying about that. Why get annoyed at all.

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Originally posted by SWAT_OP-R8R
because they get their updates directly from the SWAT server

Question... You would prefer we didn't.?

Although... that is the way the mod is written. Anyone playing the game (Single or Multiplayer ) anywhere in the world, is required to get the updates from the Swat Server, everytime they start the game up.

WOW... that must amount to HEAPS of Downloads.

Personally, I would have written the downloader to download all the dynamic updates once and then just have the patchrules tell the clients which one the server is running. 22b compared to 600kb download eachtime. oh well. *wink*

here we go again

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1. not recieved. sending a msg to a player aint contacting.

2. the agreement was studied before the server was put up and we obviously believe it has not been broken.

3. not in the readme we have. however we did ask you before we started and permission was not denied. OP you knew we were doing this months ago.

4. to get a crossfire server up and running NO Crossfire files need be edited, as you would know.

5. agreed.

A. WE cant play on the SWAT server.
B. LAG is the ONLY issue WE have. (it's difficult to kill AI, Impossible to PvP)

Actually, I cant understand why this is such a big deal for your server. It's ok to play offline single player but not ok to play together without the lag, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD LoL. Come on fellas relax.

@Boyscout - We playing the crossfire mod. Whats so annoying about that. Why get annoyed at all.

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1. call it like you want

2. the licence agreement:
"This is a legally binding agreement between you and the SWAT-PORTAL by installing, copying or otherwise using any of our software products including upgrades, source code and related documentation for any purpose, you are agreeing to be bound by this Licence. If you do not agree with the terms and conditions of this Licence you my not install, copy or otherwise use any of our software.

(1)GRANT OF LICENCE
The Crossfire Mod is protected by copyright laws and international copyright treaties, as well as other intellectual property laws and treaties. Our Software is licenced, not sold. You are not permitted to install or use Our Software except in accordance with this licence. In consideration of your agreement to the terms of this Licence the SWAT-Portal grants you a non-exclusive right ('Licence') to install and use our Software as permitted by this Licence.

YOU ARE PERMITTED:
1.1 to use the Crossfire Mod only in combination with the original Freelancer Game.
1.2 to make a back-up copy of our Software in support of your permitted use of our Software provided you label the back-up copy with the SWAT-Portal copyright notice - any other copies of the whole or any part of Our Software are unlawful.
1.3 to use Our Software for your personal use or in your business or profession - permitting unauthorised access to, copying or use of Our Software is a breach of this Licence.

YOU MAY NOT PERMIT OR ALLOW OTHERS TO:
1.4 install, use or copy our Software except as permitted by this Licence.
1.5 transfer or assign or sub-licence Our Software or this Licence on a permanent or temporary basis to any other party.
1.6 sell, distribute, rent, loan, lease, sub-licence or otherwise deal in Our Software.
1.7 alter, adapt, merge, modify or translate our Software in any way for any purpose, including, without limitation, for error correction. 1.8 remove, change or obscure any product identification or notices of proprietary rights and restrictions on or in Our Software.
1.9 copy or distribute the documentation accompanying our Software except as reasonably required for internal use.

(2)TERM & TERMINATION
2.1 This Licence will continue until terminated. You may terminate it at any time by destroying or returning to the SWAT-Portal our Software together with all copies in any form.
2.2 This Licence to use our Software will terminate immediately if you fail to comply with any of its terms.
2.3 Upon termination of this Licence for any reason you will destroy our Software together with all copies in any form, including copies on your hard and back-up disks.

YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU HAVE READ AND UNDERSTOOD THIS LICENCE AND AGREE TO BE BOUND BY ITS TERMS AND CONDITIONS

NOTE: Microsoft and Digital Anvil does hold all rights on the game engine, the original models and all other content of the original game Freelancer.
The Crossfire Mod does only extent the original game and is a non commercial product created for the fans of the original game.
This Mod does contain models greated by several other Mod creators. The SWAT-Portal does hold all neccessary permissions to use these models and proper Credits to the original authors have been given.
The SWAT-Portal and the Crossfire development team do not have the right to grant permission to use these models in other projects."

i marked the important parts... and since you changed files to make the mod workable on ur server you did alter the mod itself which is a violation of this agreement
to say that you didnt modify any CF files is not correct coz the files which were needed to run a server are protected and are part of the crossfire mod

3. i dont remember if you did ask or not but for sure i didnt give any permission
this is the part of the readme (which is included EVERY crossfire mod since the first release 2 years ago)

"NOTE: This mod is copyrighted by the SWAT-Portal.
The Starlancer Ships and the other parts of this mod can be used in other mods only with my direct permission. If you want to use the other ships which are included into this mod you will need to ask the creators of these ships (which are listed on the credits). You are allowed to play the Crossfire Mod on the 24/7 Crossfire server and in Singleplayer. It is not allowed to use the Crossfire Mod on other servers without my permission (Send requests for permission to gen1mds@hotmail.com). You are also not allowed to edit the Crossfire mod or to use parts of it for your own mods without permission."

4. see point 2

you run a mod on ur server containing data that is copyrighted... including the clanlogos... names... any many other parts... only the original Crossfire server has the right to use those

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Originally posted by SWAT_OP-R8R
because they get their updates directly from the SWAT server

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Question... You would prefer we didn't.?

Although... that is the way the mod is written. Anyone playing the game (Single or Multiplayer ) anywhere in the world, is required to get the updates from the Swat Server, everytime they start the game up.

WOW... that must amount to HEAPS of Downloads.

Personally, I would have written the downloader to download all the dynamic updates once and then just have the patchrules tell the clients which one the server is running. 22b compared to 600kb download eachtime. oh well. *wink*

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if you would understand how the launcher is working and what purpose it has you would know that this is absolutly impossible

it also would open a wide spread door for cheaters if it would be done in that way and limit the functions of the launcher dramatically

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Originally posted by Thumpa

Anyone playing the game (Single or Multiplayer ) anywhere in the world, is required to get the updates from the Swat Server, everytime they start the game up.

wrong!

there is no update needed to play single player...

Thumpa

annoying is that there are ppl who work for something and that other ppl do not respect the work or/and use that particular work without permission.

that was simply said!!!!!

u sound reasonable m8 i must say. ur only mistake is that u actually never had permission to open another CF server - and still recieve the updates from the right one.

many missunderstandings would have been avoided if u would have asked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this is how i see it

My goodness ppl. Being in Europe and America, you have tons of servers to choose from without lag problems. Infact, I doubt that you ever have to deal with it.

Give them a bit of slack here. All they are doing is trying to appreciate a great mod without the warping AI or constantly being disconnected because of ping.

@Boyscout Thumpa said "however we did ask you before we started and permission was not denied. OP you knew we were doing this months ago." Read first before making a comment

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@Boyscout Thumpa said "however we did ask you before we started and permission was not denied. OP you knew we were doing this months ago." Read first before making a comment

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3. i dont remember if you did ask or not but for sure i didnt give any permission
this is the part of the readme (which is included EVERY crossfire mod since the first release 2 years ago)

"NOTE: This mod is copyrighted by the SWAT-Portal.
The Starlancer Ships and the other parts of this mod can be used in other mods only with my direct permission. If you want to use the other ships which are included into this mod you will need to ask the creators of these ships (which are listed on the credits). You are allowed to play the Crossfire Mod on the 24/7 Crossfire server and in Singleplayer. It is not allowed to use the Crossfire Mod on other servers without my permission (Send requests for permission to gen1mds@hotmail.com). You are also not allowed to edit the Crossfire mod or to use parts of it for your own mods without permission."

there must have been a missunderstanding or missreading Riddler because i did read, only i do give a bit more importance to the word of my clanleader than to some else's!!!!! who only just showed up here btw.