NY

Get some players together and kill the pirates at will. Treat them as they treated you.....show no respect.

I will add this. NY was made a free fire zone due to the cowards who were hiding in there, namely...pirates. But not all are so chicken....just a few giving the others a bad name.

Having said this, the {LP} who attacked want heavy rp, so I will not stop any retaliation on those who killed a players armory and train (2 killings)......the pirates started this, so now deal with it.

I cannot believe that NY is a pvp zone now I was hovering around in my train and someone warned me. I was lucky. I do hope that NY can be made a safe zone for people who want to help in transfers. I would hate it that I am helping someone with a transfer and someone starts shooting at me. I would not even have a chance to turn back and fire.
I have only thing to say. The people who come to play here have their own right to the decisions they make. I think if someone is a coward, he will always be a coward. I think I can sit on a planet all day long and never be killed. I think no one should try to change other's decision as everyone is equal and no one has any right to say anything if that person is not breaking the rules. [2]

Well, now that I have found the right thread, I can say this is not all that bad a thing, as long as char's above lvl 60 are not banned outright for simply BEING in NY. FL & CF have always carried risks, especially for vulnerable valuable cargos, and Before 1.6, NY did not have damage controls, so I was killed there more than once. Just take it as a warning, if you are going to park in NY, or try to do transfers there, watch your back (chat log) and use caution; perhaps use a miniscule amount of imagination, and do it somewhere besides Manhattan!

Screamer you are spot on with some of you views m8. LP, your behaviour was IMO disgraceful to exploit this "new law/rule" at the earliest opportunity while everyone was trying to sort through the confusion. YOU OWE SCREAMER. ive had my say and you know my views, im not going to repeat them, so read them again.

oh what fun this killing spree will be. any pirate comes near any UAC or its ally will not get a warning from me, they will be fired upon. you guys want the RP? then deal with the ppl who CAN fight on this server. obviously asf/csf RP instances negate this, but hell, what FUN!

Doppleganger

What is with trading between new york-californien and new york-colorado? is it able or not without getting trouble.Pirats belong to roleplay too but in new york are good trade routes.Its not easy to trade now because there are not much traderoutes that be profitable.I think it is different if you toggle between new york and the sys neer new york or if you stay only there.I really agreed that the problems with the campers must be solved quick and something must happen and no player can hide there after he did some bad.Level 55 is enough all over should leave too.Roleplay with pirates must be but good trading too.

maybe we made some bad kills but you know it happen
for ny and good trading
look where money iss allways will be pirates
for the 1 who did loose some shit maybe you need to camp some where again

well privateer that just sums up your opinion on ppl using storage chars doesnt it. wheres yours? oh, let me guess, deadalus by any chance? along with the rest of LP's storage chars no doubt. that is a shit attitude to take m8, coming from a server clan member who has a safe place to "camp" his chars. FL's need to keep stores somewhere, it just so happens to be in the most central system in CF, and coincidentally the same place the COWARDS run to! *still not pointing my finger at anyone*. hmmm, maybe i should start naming and shaming? i feel a new thread coming along!

ANY Freelancer who wishes to have a safe place to "camp" thier stores contact me asap, i will charge 2 mil per week/per char for safe storage in neophobos.

Doppleganger *standing up for the little guy* [12]

well, well, well, the shits already started with the pirates in ny. GIGANTULA trying to tax torch925, a lvl 18 player, 10mil at westpoint!!, pirates camping in ny to latch on to passing trade! instead of ambushing in line with thier rp. at this rate everyone will turn police or military just to KoS them all with reason!

Moving back to another subject for just a moment, shouldn't there be a rule about not attacking somebody while they're making a transfer? Especially with credits transactions ought to be made planetside, but the interface doesn't allow for that. I don't mind NY being open to fighting, but when there are pirates about murdering people and you're in the middle of a trade, how are you even supposed to react before you're dead (not to mention fight back)? Some valuable items in this game can only be secured through scores of hours and hard work. If you're transfering things of high value you already did the hard part by surviving all of the way back to the houses with it. What can you really say to somebody who has an armory that gets blown up because it has nowhere to seek refuge? Too bad? Hire a merc and go find all the weps again? There has to be a line between pirate RP and something that's gone too far. When a freelancer loses everything, they might leave for another server rather than get back up.

Since the rule I suggested will never happen maybe Dopple is right. Maybe traders, freelancers, police, and military should just KOS pirates 24/7... and they should do the same. There will be fighting, swearing, and so much missile spamming that even the newest of players could identify it as a clanwar I heard that pirates invaded a clansystem yesterday, so they probably can handle the trouble, so why not? If pirates were constantly in combat with somebody maybe they wouldn't have the time to abuse freelancers and break server rules by setting 10 mil taxes on level 18 players

Wait though... wars are bad (notice the sarcasm in the previous couple of lines :P). Some of you may want vengeance, and the increase in RP is good, but if this escalates to a shooting free-for-all it's going to end very badly for at least one of the involved clans. I look forward to seeing more pirate-related RP, just keep cool heads while calculating retaliations and tactics. It'd be a shame if somebody took the fighting too far and ruined the fun for everyone...

(btw, pirates need to check the RP rules so they know how much they're allowed to tax what people... you ought to be banned if you're not following those guidelines flawlessly [12] )

I don't really mind NY is open.
There aren't a lot of pirates who tax lvl 18 players I think. Because they nearly gain any profit of it.

And if you just start your funds are high enough to buy a reasonable ship and equipment. So why not move to Rheinland or something like that?
There are enough systems were not that many players come, if it comes to taxing.

Also there are enough places you could safely use your armory, the only problem would be moving it from NY.
But there would be plenty people who would help you with that, like the mercs.

But who am I?

That's sounds great, but a person starts with 150,000 credits. You need millions to have a decent ship capable of defeating pirates, hiring a merc would cost more than you have, and if you die a few times you won't be able to afford cargo and you'll be left mining in asteroid fields and begging. People stay in Liberty because the NPCs are weakest there. If a person takes a dromadary to New Berlin, for instance, the NPCs will kill you before the pirates even have a chance to start stalking you

ehm, mercs adapt to the rank of their clients, don't worry about that, we have a certain honour you know

Grtz

@ screamer, that funds is enough to go to another part of the original fl where the npc's aren't that strong.
I'm sure there aren't pirates at every place you can leave NY. Ny is just a hotspot now so than go to another liberty or bretonoa system that's not a hotspot and earn some money there.

And as you can see how everyone reacts here, there are plenty of good players willing to protect newcomers.
Also there are plenty of players who will give you the funds to buy a Titan + some lvl 9 weapons so you can roam around in cf without getting killed everytime.

I'm not the fool that thinks fighting a pirate with a lousy ship is gonna work. Then just make a run for it

Well i sead it would happen and it has this one of the reasons i left CF and it will only get worse.
And the other reason i leftwas because Wavey sead That traders in NY are campers, I have never camped eney where .
I allso sead that if NY goes PVP then the pirates will move in and camp there , just like they do in NQ , they park just outside the planet and spam, and wait for some noob to come buy and tax him or kill him.

Well dont say i didnt warn you and it will only get worse,this will not help RP if admin thinks it will then they are very mistaken.

{UAC}RECON

ehm, screamer, aren't you one of those mercs too?

Grtz