New and Good trade routes are needed!

Yes, trader licence could be nice... and the integration of a "real economic mod" would be very challenging.

But if there is the possibility to build a trader clan (like an "Hansa guild") which can take place in CF world ? I'm not enough experimented in the CF world and I dont know it's history so i cant say if these type of proposal can fit in the plan of the creator of this wonderfull mod.
Strategy and Tactics of the history clans would be completely changed...

There is definitely 1 trader clan currently in CF and recruiting as posted in Server News and I know there is another building.

So keep your eyes open and get involved if you can.

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It doesnt matter if they are short, long, etc but I think it would be good to have a new trade routes with better profit.

What do you mean by "better"? There are several routes that produce more than $1000/unit profit, and at least one that I use with $2000/unit profit. It seems to me a lot of players are just plain lazy, and want immediate gratification (e.g., million$/hour). I can make over $1million/hour without leaving NY, and this is with a lowly serafina freighter.

You want wealth, and the advancement it brings? WORK for it! My gut feeling is this is the very reason OP closed the hyper-profit routes in the first place, is that players go for the cash, and ignore the richness of the rest of the mod, which he has built so diligently. Go play monopoly, if all you want to do is count your cash; in CF (as in life) it's main usefulness is to help other players.

Here's a route that will make good money, and actually give you some gameplay (but you'll have to use a freighter): buy station blueprints @ Detroit (NY), sell them @ Nansei (Kyushu); buy black market @ Nansei (I forget the commodity), sell @ planet Kyushu; buy niobium @ planet Kyushu, sell @ planet New Tokyo; buy prisoners @ planet New Tokyo, sell @ Fuchu prison (Shikoku); buy water @ Fuchu, sell @ Leiden (Galileo); buy phage (BM) @ Leiden, sell @ Pueblo, buy superconductors @ Pueblo, sell @ Norfolk (?); start over. With even a humpback or dromedary, this circle should produce more than $1 million per round, and with a bullpup3, more than $2 million. Try it for yourself...

Planet New Berlin buy prisoners for 100 and sell at Planet Stuttgart for 1400 with train best route that is left in CF and if you like you can take lux foods back to berlin aswell......but hurry lux foods go bad :p in a train you should clear 7 mill per run

But ..... you could also go harvest Gold in the gold fields in Dublin or if youre good with the Hessies Diamonds in Omega 41 : have 1 or 2 m8's hang and shoot the meteors in either system and you can tracktor em in and be on your merry way......you should have the best place to sell under trade routes

or

have 2 or 3 m8's kick NPC ass in NY and you stay neutral and fly happily through the battlefield in your train tractoring cargo pods along the way and when it is full fly to Planet CF and get some 1 to unload you hmmmm yummie 500 million
Also doable in a sefarine(in Purian Lake) you can make 35 mill if you kill or let kill 350 npc's or (if you got permission from BG) a bullpup MKIII you can make 40 mill wich all 3 is not very hard to do (just make sure u save sometimes dont want to lose everything now do you

100 million credit trade route throughout the sirius
to much to type hehe

Have fun out there and see you in Space

R_39*SeV

P.S. watch out for Pirate's

I know m8

But....if there are gonna be better trade route's in the near future this will be able to keep people making some money till they are here (and pirate's to be more active too) thus mercs to protect the traders

And i totally agree with you on this 1 wich u know cause im a trader by nature :p if it are guns or commodities np money is money

R_39*SeV

Wanna know a mining route?

Niobium in Tau-37 -> Leipzig Station, Dresen system (8 mil with a train)
Diamonds next to Frankfurt jumphole in Dresden -> Planet New Tokyo (8. 250. 000 with a train)

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so CF could expand tits frontier

huh?

Don`t u understand OP. TITS frontier. There`s all the sense of that sentence. IN THAT WORD!

/ /( . )( . )\ \ frontier...
kinda sounds like a game

yeah we know what you meant... you were looking for pr0n right before you wrote it - right?

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100 million credit trade route throughout the sirius
to much to type hehe

Thats right and some of us in R and *at have done this route several times, but a train in required and takes about 2.5 to 3 hours per run.

However it is work, which some people seem to be afraid of.

@RGHawk- the whole point of my reply was to question the practice of focusing on trains. The way I see it a trade route does not have to be serviced by a train alone. As you pointed out, there is no trader's license; ostensibly because large-scale commercial operations were not something that were anticipated, only made possible. If someone wants to idle their time away slogging down the lanes with a train, more power to them, but they shouldn't complain that the game is now no more interesting than having a trucker's life...

As for the route I suggested, there are several rates of return on that route, and if a trader does not carefully manage their rep, they can come into some very exciting gameplay, even without the prospect of piracy! And it is but one of many, many possibilites, as you have pointed out...

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Originally posted by LaserJet6L
Wanna know a mining route?

Niobium in Tau-37 -> Leipzig Station, Dresen system (8 mil with a train)
Diamonds next to Frankfurt jumphole in Dresden -> Planet New Tokyo (8. 250. 000 with a train)

8mil profit for a day - no thanks

I found a good trade route. It isn't the best, but for lazy pilots it should do just fine. And it isn't dangerous providing you are neutral with the Bounty Hunters and Outcasts.

Simply trade Diamonds from Sindewinder Base in Alaska (198/piece) to Planet CF (1650/piece). Its a short trip, but it does not pay much if you have little cargo space (around 100k with my 120 cargo Tempest). Good when you are outta cash and need some quick money.

OR

Mine copper in the Copperton Field (Colorado) and sell them at Pueblo station (400/piece). With a Drake (125 cargo hold) you can make 70,000 in one go. So this is better for beginning players or players with Soulforge Trains or any other large freighters. The good thing about this is, that credit you make is pure profit. It is time-consuming, so better go with mates to mine quickly.

My 2 cents.

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Where can I get the Bullpup MKIII. I can't go to Custodian anymore, so is there an alternative base to buy it at?

there is another solution to this instead of adjusting trade routes adjust the ships or rather some ships for example the sefrerina its twice the size of the bullpup mkIII but has less cargo capacity for some reason maybe if the cargo was increased to 600 (which would fit the size of the ship) the ships is as vulnerable as a train and can dock at stations making better use of existing commodities and would be a large dock anywhere freighter that wouldn't upset the balance

hehe make a station/planet with a moor in altair (close to tomsk) with a kick ass commodity to sell in for instantse Purian lake system (wouldnt that be a good reason to hire an escortand for pirate's to tax or take out) it would be a long and dreadfull route for a train ....

To get there it takes a while and could get hairy same goes for going back :p i know it sucks but.....something could be born here

P.S. only a suggestion as my m8 RG asked for but we do need more idea's

R_39*SeV

Just one suggestion for the sake of the "truckers" - make mooring points at the largest bases functional for trains. I'm thinking of the Newark/Ft. Bush class of station, with wide separation between moors. This would more than double the accessible points for trains to trade, but cause OP untold headaches, as he works out how to do it without breaking something else in the mod...