Worldy Matters

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  • There is no solution to that problem. We wont be able to bring democracy to that countries. Democracy is working in our/western cultures (more or less). In the same way it would not work for them to bring their way of living to ours. They are incompatible with each other. Toleration would be a key, accept others and let them live the way of living. The only exception then would be, that you only are allowed to do that if you dont harm others. (I let them live their way of life if they dont affect my life)


    War or more weapons isnt an option too. It didnt solved anything yet, and it wont do in the in the near or far future. This is the same mistake that America has succumbed. People are not more safe if they have more weapons. No country is more secure if its people have more weapons. No society is assisted to maintain peace if rebels or government is supported with weapons. History proofed this more than one time. Unfortunate no one really learns from it. Gaining something by stealing it from others (especially with weapon power) is probably one of the many reasons why such crises exists. Although discussing problems and talk about hasnt been a solution too, this is the only way to try to solve it in peace. Making compromises and accept other ideas, tolerate them just could be a good start. But then a lot of people have to change themselves - and this very like could only solve mother nature.


    Despite the fact that there are mainly young men among the refugees, you cannot simply tell them to move back and fight for their country. It makes sense, yes. But its not so easy. What about if all that young men dont want to fight and loose their lives. What about checking their claim for asylum, what about human rights? Do we have these International laws to forget them, just because it could make things easier for us? No. If we would do then this would make us less human. I find it good that we have these laws, now only more countries should accept it and support these laws. If there would be more supporters than the load to bear the crisis could be spread on more shoulders, which in the end could make it easier for all.


    How do we get around the problem to find a suitable form of state where the countries in mid east could prosper and live peaceful with each other? For my understanding there was more order within these states if dictators lead those countries. I believe dictatorship is not a good state form, but there was more control in these countries than nowadays. Democracy failed and it wont work down there. We have to accept it.
    Another already mentioned problem is again our way of living in the financial area - capitalism. The economy has to grow year by year, ones debts are another ones yields. Growing can only occur of debts raise too. We try to have a deal with those countries and in more and more cases we ruin their local economy. Example: It is wrong to sell them goods that they should be able to grow on their own. And it is wronger that we sell those goods much cheaper to them as it would costs if they produced it on their own. We destroy their countries with this carnivore capitalism. Helping is something different. What we do is to let our rewards grow while on the other side their wealth decreases. Economy is similar to finance sector. This has to stop and the current form of capitalism has to stop. I fear humanity doesn't develop any further if we just look how much profit we can gain. What has been developed lately that brought something good to a community without that someone got really rich from it? Does this has to happen - yes - with the current form of living. Why for example cant we just create medicine and heal the ones that require it - just without any costs or only less costs. Why it has to costs something? --> Somehow this is already the case with the debts of states. They raise and raise, year by year. OP mentioned already, its fictional money. And the federal reserves or central banks could just print money as it is required. This happens here in Europe and America and in many other countries. A lot of things that come together that could rake dissatisfaction among those who benefit from the system and on the other side the loosers - and obviously - that is very likely also a reason to escape from poor countries and immigrate to the more wealthy countries.


    I have to agree with OP also with the social system - health care, It is working quite well here in Germany. It is not perfect and expensive, but a rich country should be able to afford these costs to take care of all of its civilization (and refugees too). I feel very comfortable that if i may loose my job or get very sick the system will take care of costs to a certain rate. The system somehow protects me and lets me feel save here. And in this case it allows that the poor people have the same security (to a certain level) and the strong and wealthy people also pay for the poor. But everyone benefits from it. Happily if you are more wealthy then one can even afford to be taken more care of in cases of accidents - may this be job or health (which is ok too). But the principal security of living is assured from the system. And I dont really want to miss it.

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  • Just a small comment on the health care here in germany.
    Like i said, we have it meanwhile for more than 130 years. But it wasnt a "boom, there it is" event.
    Bismarck introduced the first health care (oh bismarck, you clever guy) for a group of workers back then and over the years the health care developed step by step to what it is now.
    The idea practically spread and more and more people got it in germany.
    Your expectations from the US health care might be a bit high. There is no social program which ever worked from the start. It is something that has to grow, something that has to be adjusted with the needs, something that requires regulations. In 10 years, 20 years or whatever people might not want to look back.
    Right now its more important to search for the errors in this program and fix them instead of giving up the whole idea.


    Regarding the crisis in the middle east I would agree that there are 2 possible solutions.
    Its just that I absolutely dont want to think about that 2nd solution because its absolutely disgusting. Thats comparable with a WW3 and the fact that history wouldnt judge well on it.
    So no option.
    However, I think that the first solution is possible. Not by a single country but with the help of many of them.
    You have to invest into the future and make bold decisions.


    You mentioned taxes (hell, we are going wayyyyyyyy off topic here).
    Taxes are good, taxes are awesome... if done right.
    I disagree that low taxes automatically helps to get people employed. There are too many other factors which influence that.
    However, in my eyes are done wrong in most countries of the world. There are exceptions but those are only in relative small countries which by default have many natural resources.
    Taxes only work right if the people which can afford them have to pay them.
    So taxes should mainly be for the rich people and companies.
    Lets face it... our countries tax everyone and the rich people are only taxed up to specific limits. Every profit above these limits does not get considered when calculating the tax rates.
    That is a sick system which makes rich people even richer while the poor people have the most of the taxes to pay (on average).
    Why is it this way?
    Reason 1... who is making politics? Who decides about taxes? Rich people, not the poor ones.
    It is not possible in our countries to make political decisions which the majority of our people would benefit from. Just because of that simple fact.
    Reason 2... there is no common tax policy that is valid for all countries of the world. Thats a problem because a government that decides to tax the rich people or companies always risks that these people and companies say "fuck you, I leave the country and pay less elsewhere". Thats a risk out governments are facing.
    Lately there have been suggestions to counter this... but if that will really work someday is something very uncertain.
    Reason 3... companies which have to pay high taxes often threat to fire people because of the high taxes. Not long later they release their business reports which reveil their huge profits.
    Companies blackmail governments.
    Reason 4... lobbyism.
    Needless to say that politicians very often do not represent the people voice. They make decisions and laws to support economic interests and very often when they are no longer working for the government they appear in high positions of large companies.


    I think that we need global solutions in order to make taxes fair.
    People shouldnt be able to avoid taxes and taxes should be calculated base on income, without high-caps.
    I also think that companies should pay taxes based on profit and based on costs for employes. There should be a formula that is based on the company profit, the number of employees and the average salary of the employeed. Based on the result the company should pay taxes. That would not only increase the taxed for large companies... it also would motivate companies to have many employees and pay good salaries.
    Just an idea.
    Keep that in mind when you vote me for world president. ;)


    Trumps suggestion not to tax low incomes is very interesting and common practice in germany.
    For the voters this is a great arguement.
    However, did he tell how he wants to compensate the tax losses?
    You know, the government has many civil servants which have to be paid. Police, military... hundred thousands of other jobs.
    If there are tax losses then these jobs cant be paid anymore and in the end many people will loose their jobs.
    Next to that dont i know a single politician which promised to lower taxes and kept that promisee after the election.
    Politicians which make promises about taxes during the election are in my eyes liars.


    I see 15$/h mentioned.. a min salary per hour.
    Well, for a few years meanwhile we have something like that in germany. Its lower than that, but it is something that improved the situation for many people.
    Politicians and many other people arguemented against it. "It will costs jobs", "some branches wont make any profit anymore", "everything will be more expensive".
    Today we have more employees than before, the price situation didnt change significantly. Some services have become more expensive but people seem to have no problem to pay for these services. We have the general opinion amount the common people that work should be rewarded in a fair way.
    The whole negative talk that we had before as turned out to be invalid.
    Positive side effect is that if people earn more money, they are able to spend that money again which is something that in return boosts the economy again.


    The migration policies of the US to be honest does not make any sense to me. I would do alot stuff different... but maybe I dont understand the backgrounds correctly so its best if i dont comment on it.


    But well, I dont understand many things about the USA.
    Like Huor said... its ridiculous to believe that more guns on the streets can make the country more secure. 35000 deaths per year because of guns and more weapons are supposed to change that... really? Thats like sending fire fighters to a burning house with a truck full of fuel instead of water.
    I even heard that its better to kill somebody than to injure that person because an injured person might sue you.
    Then there is this whole mess with VW being forced to pay 14 billion $ while at the same time its absolutely ok if american cars consume 30l fuel per 100 miles.
    Google for coal runners... thats absolutely ok in the US. Thats cool...
    Poluting the environment seems to be 100% fine if done by americans with american products.
    Climate change... is denied by many americans. The incresing number of hurricans, tornadoes, wood fires, dryness, floods and other massive catastrophies are... dunno... gods will. God must bear a grudge against america lately.
    Cops kill blacks, cops get killed by... anyone, riots.
    Seriously... german neo-nazi are more civilized and respectful. (ok bad comparison)


    Last economic comment from me.
    Huor mentions how capitalism ruins everything.
    Thats right.
    We expected endless growth with just limited resources. That can not work. It will not work.
    Capitalism is doomed to fail. It breaks together sooner or later. Nothing can prevent that.
    The three largest enonomies of this planet very soon will consume more resources per year than the planet can provide.
    Im not quiet sure what the other 191 countries of this planet will do then.
    Scientists expect that within the next decade we will face a worldwide food crisis. Not a crisis just in africa... world wide... in less than 10 years. Ten years is not much time... its impossible to prepare or react on it.
    Im not worried about a few million refugees coming to europe... but if the prediction of a worldwide food crisis turn out to be true then this world will be fucked.


    Our stupid little problems... refugees... dictators, weapons... taxes... debts... all that wont matter anymore if the world doesnt change fundamentally.
    What if this prediction is wrong?
    Yeah... what if?
    What if it is true?
    We are gamling with the future of our world.

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    Only dead fish swim with the stream.
    Don't discuss with idiots. They only drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience there.


    This is ten percent luck,
    Twenty percent skill,
    Fifteen percent concentrated power of will,
    Five percent pleasure,
    Fifty percent pain,
    And a hundred percent reason to remember the name!

  • *sigh*
    I cant resist.... Donald Dumb.
    He claims to make America great again. The best country in the world.
    The best country in the world is ... Denmark (eventhough i have found a US rating where germany was claimed to be that).
    Whatever, nobody in Denmark or Germany cares about such a bullshit.


    Why is it so important to be the best for the USA?
    They are not.
    How is "best" or "great" actually measured?
    You cant really measure it... thats why any dumbass can make claims about it. And after 4 years that dumbass can say "we achieved what we promised" because nobody can measure it.
    What could criteria for great or best be?
    1. Economics. The USA is great with that... thats undeniable.... China and India however, have much better potential to take over the lead. Mr. Dumb cant change that.
    2. Financial power... thats tied closely to the economics but a country that is close to bankruptcy every few years shouldnt really think about this criteria at all.
    3. Military power. The USA are leading there but other countries (*cough* china) are catching up very fast. Next to that.... should that really be a valid criteria?
    4. Employment rates... thats a long way to go to reach the rates of north european states or some arabic countries.
    5. Wealth per inhabitant. Greetings to Dubai and Katar. The per head income is roughly 10 times higher than in the USA.
    6. Happiness... Hallo Jamaica , Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, .... Canada (rofl, its fucking cold there and they are still happy).


    I have no idea how America can consider to be best or great again.
    A strong enconomy with happy workers, large military, good salaries and a large financial reserve.
    Thats the miracle Mr. Dumb has to show me.


    First million with 25 and the first heart attack with 30, thats the spirit.
    Id rather be good and happy instead of best and exhausted.




    excuse my sarcasm.... i know... sarcasm is evil... and hilary is my envoy.
    But like I already said, you have voted against all alternatives already. Now you will have to decide between pest and cholera.


    Sometimes I wish I could take part in such a republican election event.... you know... where Mr. Dumb holds his speeches and everything around that appears like a mad house. When he then tells "I will make america great again" I could take a shovel and a pick, walk to him on the stage and say "Thank you Mr. Dumb for your contribution. You shift starts tomorrow 6am".

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    Only dead fish swim with the stream.
    Don't discuss with idiots. They only drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience there.


    This is ten percent luck,
    Twenty percent skill,
    Fifteen percent concentrated power of will,
    Five percent pleasure,
    Fifty percent pain,
    And a hundred percent reason to remember the name!

  • the one trip mars mission might start soon

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    Only dead fish swim with the stream.
    Don't discuss with idiots. They only drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience there.


    This is ten percent luck,
    Twenty percent skill,
    Fifteen percent concentrated power of will,
    Five percent pleasure,
    Fifty percent pain,
    And a hundred percent reason to remember the name!

  • keep in mind... internet sux up there
    no youporn for a very long time

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    Only dead fish swim with the stream.
    Don't discuss with idiots. They only drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience there.


    This is ten percent luck,
    Twenty percent skill,
    Fifteen percent concentrated power of will,
    Five percent pleasure,
    Fifty percent pain,
    And a hundred percent reason to remember the name!

  • just look on the bright side.


    there is still good in this world

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    Only dead fish swim with the stream.
    Don't discuss with idiots. They only drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience there.


    This is ten percent luck,
    Twenty percent skill,
    Fifteen percent concentrated power of will,
    Five percent pleasure,
    Fifty percent pain,
    And a hundred percent reason to remember the name!

  • Id rather be good and happy instead of best and exhausted.


    Yeah, best and exhausted and dead ^^


    I cant resist.... Donald Dumb.
    He claims to make America great again. The best country in the world.
    The best country in the world is ... Denmark (eventhough i have found a US rating where germany was claimed to be that).
    Whatever, nobody in Denmark or Germany cares about such a bullshit.


    I often think this is the man who will start WW3, and I understand why you think he is dumb OP I mean look at this



    WHO TF EATS KFC WITH FRIGGIN CUTLERY laugh-squared laugh-squared laugh-squared Lmfaooooooo


    if he does not know how to eat food properly, what makes you think he can look after a country properly??

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