Lag kick + Lag restart

Crysis · Jun 24th 2009

No, I am with 80-90 0 0 ping and I don't lag at all, your 47 is perfect... You're lagging from another thing I guess, your Firewall , or your whole Anti-Virus... you should check

Bond · Jun 24th 2009

Nahh, who accuse you, i fight against you with guns only, and yes this way of fly affect eyes and brain center for balance, but only if somebody don't know where to look.

ps

ping can be changed, and you know that(try in combat with few ppl)fortunately, this happen rarely.

Wizard · Jun 25th 2009

hmmm...... I do have ZoneAlarm suite running. Will try turning that off, and will try pinging in combat situation. Don't think it will make much of a difference considering I am running on a high end machine but its worth a try.

Crysis · Jun 25th 2009

That's why I am with BitDefender Anti-Virus 2009(which is also on 1st place for 2009) and it has Game Mode while you're playing games,,amazing product^^

Daywalker · Jun 25th 2009

How can the connection be laggy with a ping/loss/fluct posted above, serious i have no idea...

ImO there would be minimum fluct needed if the Firewall is causing trouble. I am playing through 2 Software and one Hardware Firewalls (ofc the Ports for FL are free) and the PC is redirected via NAT and i do not have problems nor people complain.

The "dancing" he mentioned is a long time known way to move when not wanted of being hit - it´s just hard to learn - dunno, is it a real problem or is Wiz just hard to hit?

Wizard · Jun 25th 2009

What are tolerable limits for fluct. With firewall on my loss is allways 0 while fluct on rare occasions goes to 1. When that happens it will go back to 0 within a minute or so.

Bond · Jun 25th 2009

Wtf, what happen there, we can try today t0 fight...i think all this is can be unsalted joke, and you have almost perfect connection...
@Crysis
and how he lagging?Jumping- unpredictably or unusual, or small bouncy as it is described and commented...

Crysis · Jun 25th 2009

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Originally posted by Bond
@Crysis
and how he lagging?Jumping- unpredictably or unusual, or small bouncy as it is described and commented...

I've just said,,, if he's really lagging,, it's not from his connection... Last time I fought with him in LA was ok, he didn't jumped,, is probably a big joke, who knows^^

Daywalker · Jun 25th 2009

Fluct isn´t that problem if it is temporary it only shows that your ping is fluctuating which isn´t dramatical unless it is not high. Most of us have a fluct from time to time.

The real problem is the loss from players which is mainly caused by downloading, being on a not stable wireless connection or sharing your connection with others who are downloading or playing aswell and so on. Also it must not cause problems if it is well configured and the connection is good enough.

Wizard · Jun 26th 2009

In that case I could not be lagging.

Unimportant as it may be fluct never gets higher then 1. I have never so far on this connection experienced loss. The ping has never shown so far to be above 53. Need to add I been only playing on the server with the connection for a bit over a couple weeks so there is still time to experience it.

Only one of the PvPs last knight showed some unusual lagg like moves. Dueled several people and all the movement was very jumpy as expected except for one duel with Mellon. During this duel he seemed to be teleporting occasionally from one to the other end of the screen. This seemed characteristic of lagg. To be honest cant say if it was him or me.

Maxbur · Jun 26th 2009

When I fought Wizard, I experienced same prob with lag. Everything is jumpimng, any missile (includes CDs) won`t to move, very hard to aim "teleporting" target...

Wizard · Jun 26th 2009

Just downloaded an app, "TCPView". Will run that on my second screen to see in real time what other applications if any are accessing Internet during FL play. Even though unlikely maybe some update or something else kicks in and hogs the connection.

Any body have any other suggestion if maybe I can run some kind of a logging application to record ping or any other relevant set of data that might help determine if there is a cause of this on my PC. Tried to ping last knight during PvP but its just not possible to do both at the same time.

Daywalker · Jun 26th 2009

Monitoring your TC Protocol is useless, but maybe your tool is able to monitor your UD Protocol, cause Freelancer is working with UDP.

Wizard · Jun 26th 2009

It does UDP as well. I also figured out I can use the command prompt ping command to log the ping values and add a time stamp. This should do nicely for those times when dueling and not having a free hand to ping the server.

I guess I am supposed to ping the same IP that shows when logging on to CF???

Bond · Jun 26th 2009

I have some screenie, even mosquito can't hit you, and you must admit: this is weird.

Anyway, something strange start to happen, when you appear (maybe because you are Wizard)

Spiky- · Jun 26th 2009

I don't see why its so hard to kill Wizz, he sure owned me in my Shroud with guns only but when I am in my lagg with missiles hes just another of my victims

Wizard · Jun 26th 2009

I get hit by missiles and I get killed by them. In fact happened several times not only with Spiky. Maxbur had me several times as well a day earlier.

Without trying to insult or put you down I want to state a fact that the difference between them and you Bond flying as Melon is that they are actually quite good. Both fly pretty evasive and quite often hit me. You on the other hand I found quite easy to tail, shoot and even kill with your own missiles.

When you talk about missiles I am sure you realize that I shoot down many of them quite far away from me, of the rest only a portion gets past the countermeasures and the small portion that gets past all that still needs to hit a crazy moving target. You had me though with a couple mines as I wasn't expecting it and ignored them for a while.

If I had to guess (just a guess, not a fact) I would say that out of a hundred missiles fired I stand a reasonable chance of getting hit by about 3-4. The problem for the missile user is that because of the duration of the duel (sometimes over 5 min), the time between hits mostly allows my shield to regenerate so usually I can take those hits. I get killed only if you manage somehow to get a couple to hit me within a very short time from each other.

This is theory and as is already on discussion in this thread there could be some lag involved giving me an even better chance of surviving then what would be indicated by the explanation above. Since I appreciate fair play and want us all enjoying the game on same terms, I am going to keep checking this until I am sure one way or another. If I find lag I will try everything I know and almost anything you guys can suggest to eliminate it.

Feel free to advise if you have any ideas on how I can confirm if it is or is not lag and later when confirmed how to avoid it if it is lag.

P.S.
Yes something does happen when I come around and it may seem strange to you but let me explain and it should be cleared up. I am the mean, bad, ugly, very scary Mutant Wizard and I scare the crap out of you, leaving you almost paralyzed with fear.

Wizard · Jun 26th 2009

Ping log from about 5-10 minutes ago.

First half of the file is before I loged in and the last 10% of it during PvP. Firewall turned on and a scan in progress during the whole time. Later will do another similar without the firewall and without the scan.

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Reply from 87.106.211.192: bytes=32 time=36ms TTL=118

Reply from 87.106.211.192: bytes=32 time=37ms TTL=118

Reply from 87.106.211.192: bytes=32 time=42ms TTL=118

Reply from 87.106.211.192: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=118

Reply from 87.106.211.192: bytes=32 time=36ms TTL=118

Reply from 87.106.211.192: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=118

Ping statistics for 87.106.211.192:

Packets: Sent = 816, Received = 816, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 34ms, Maximum = 202ms, Average = 39ms

Spiky- · Jun 26th 2009

you are not lagging as in package loss ... your ship just ping pongs up and down and sideways like it had a seizure

Bond · Jun 26th 2009

And i never compare my fighting skills with Spiky or M@x, but you must know,i am not blind and i have experience in PvP, and i fight against Aces, loss 10;15;20 battles in row, only to see how they fight.
However Mosquito and Hornet missile miss you, and i talking about this, and i simple can change sub-target to avoid ur gun fire.
And now you disappear from Arena, RL reasons ok, but...

cya around...

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