Server meeting

is the irc that

you're at BG page??? and what time (including timezone)

please=?

Sincerely

RG

ok ill be there what are we discussing this time

gotta aggree with wavey next time the thread needs to be a little

more important. i know i said i was going to be there but an unexpected situation happened

and i wasnt going to make it on time. but i showed up after i got home and turned out that

it was cancelled. well to tell you the truth something of this importance should have benn

done in either case. i mean for crying out loud its the server and everything that we were

going to talk about i think it is a little important to discuss also if there was a post on

the server its self about it then maybe we could have had a better out come. dont know

maube we can try again some other time when we can get maz participation but that is just me

talking. however i think that if it was made sticky or something we might have had more ppl

show up just like what wavey said if im wrong tell me if im right tell me anyways dont care

on other opionions just that the server needs to be talked about

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There is an Event plan it is in this forum and called

Events ,I did ask for it to be stickied

yes wavey you are right ive seen

it

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i asked for a complete event plan - where is it?

like

wavey said its posted under events

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asked for ppl helping me to create the

database - not a single guy came to me

ive seen may ppl asking how they can

help with that and hell for 1 of them is one of my clan members

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i asked for

some1 to help me recoding fl-stats - no response

i havent seen this one

before when did you ask the help for that one

It is not that you can ask

and we jump and do all kind of stuff.
Some things you asked are very specialistic. Not

everyone posesses that knowledge. And even if they posess the knowledge, it is still their

free time, and their choice if they want to do something that looks a lot like their normal

day to day work. I get a lot of support questions from people surrounding me, but once I

cleared that I will not do work for free (that is, spending an entire sunday to clear up

someones computer, reinstall the software, replace the backup, and with nothing more than a

quick "thank you") all those questions vanished.

The last few weeks the general

ambiance has changed from bad to worse. Unless everyone, and I mean everyone, want to put

their best in it, and try to approach the situation without prejudice and with an open mind,

then this community is doomed.

People do not stick with one game for a long time

anymore. The golden days that you played a game for 2 or 3 years in a row are over. With

games becoming more and more sophisticated, pushing the edge even further, the majority of

the players are pursuaded to try on a new game every 3 months. The fact that there isn't a

Freelancer 2 doesn't mean that players who play Freelancer will stick to it unless there is

a new Freelancer 2. The interest of the majority of the players is bigger than that. Mine

for instance stretches from Freelancer to GTA-SA to Quake 4 and back to the oldie Stronghold

Crusader.

Being angry because there were only a few players who showed up, isn't

helping the cause. Everyone can decide for themselves if they want to invest into the

community or not. And getting angry because they didn't choose to attent the meeting, which

imho was announced not overwhelming (i didn't know it was on until i announced my

computercrashes) isn't helping. Imho you should have used a consoleannouncement for it. Yes

I know you can only use a few of them, but if you think that it is that important, then wipe

one for the time being. With the console message showing up every couple of minutes (10

minutes or so?), you reach a lot more people.

X_x

anyway, next time lemme do the marketing

maybe i even show up 0.o

Hello

everyone,

It is not easy to keep a community toguether. Ive been in several forums,

where some of them were Fl mod forums, and they dont last long. It is not because the game

got more sophisticated or better than old one, it is just because people are looking for

something new and they dont find it. Yes, people change from game to game because, lets face

it, while the graphics are improved, their playability and contest are not something new. So

they move on until they found something could be new, tested for some months, and put it in

the big box (believe me, I own 138 different original games) plus so many others i

downloaded before, to check on them if they are worth buying it (I have a total of 361

games) Guess what, I havent bought any new games for a long time cause graphics are

astonishing but playability same or even worst than the old ones. So the main point is what

make people to play for a longer time any game, the answer is simple: The Community. Today

we have the advantage of multiplayer games through the internet (something that before was

limited by lan users) and in these online games you start to relate to other people, start

to be part of a community different from your surroundings. The game itself plus the mod, in

freelancer case, just do 50% of the job to hook you up and keep hooking you up to the game

for a while. The community, do the other 50% to keep it you hook up for the longest time.

Crossfire is the greatest mod in freelancer (no offending other modders who made

extraordinaies mods themselves) But in time, the mod itself and forum will die if the people

willing to give a little more do not supported it. Nitro is right, not to many people would

have the time or their willing to spend 1 day work on something extra. But there stilll

people willing to do that, so if you find at least 5 or 6 people to give their time to help

you, should try to work with them.

ABout OP requests, all of them we were asked for.

But also, almost all of them were answer to and i can recall few names written in that

thread that i wont mention them now.

About the events in one way or another, events

have been going on for 2 weeks now. Even more, some of us have to reinvent them because we

didnt have the same resources we had in the old times. Even more, some of us has sacrifice

our own playability in the game to make the event happen (without any experience at all)

Even more, some of us has put game credits out of our own game pocket

About the

script, at least one person offer his service not using the easy manbo jumbo for scripting

but using the real thing.

One thing I have seen is the lack of publicity, not easy

to pm everyone to tell them come to your event. Not easy task at all, but wherever was good

or bad I can say some of us took the time to do that getting at least 10 people on the first

encounter and up to 20 people on the last one. So publicity was good. One thing we need to

improve are the rules for each event and they should be an sticky on event rules. Event

manager should revise themand then they should be kept as long as possible without changing

them so player wont get confuse (it happen to me and it was a big mess)

About

meeting, irc is one of the oldest but most effective way to get in touch to a big group. An

sticky of how to use an irc is not a bad idea and it is something that should last forever

in the forum if irc would be the way to organize important meetings. To that sticky, i

would include the server and channel address if they are going to be same almost all

time.

About the last meeting, what could I say, I was the only freelancer there, but

we were 8 people (cause a member of SG was there too) willing to help the server and some of

them were holding events and so many questions t ask to improve them.

If we were

check the log, even if some events have not gone our way, they did help to increase the

number of players online in CF server. I had 20 people on saturday event including myself,

plus there were other 10 people freelancing CF. A total of 30 people, it has been a while

since i saw that here.

I can understand frustration when we dont get what we

expected. I have to run 2 different companies for a time of 12 years starting a 23 (cause

my parents dies and i have to take over family business) and I usually dont get what I

expected from my employs or different situations but I have learned to take the best from

the worst situation and move on trying to do a good job for my clients. But there is one

important thing, I have to have faith and believe that I will do the task at hand, no matter

the problem or incovinience, I have to believe that I will overcome to deliver and God has

been always my strength to overcome adversity and accomplish my goals. If we loose interest

on what we are doing, we lose it all cause every detail, every circunstances would take the

best of us and will be considering tha situation we got into a hopeless case.

So my

final advice:

@the 8 people at meeting: no matter what happen at the meeting, those

8 people who show there, dont lose their faith, lets try to work out a solution and still

helping this server the best way each one of you know of.

@OP: you create you this

mod. If for some circunstances, you feel annoying by thinking: people dont care. you have

several options, but i will stay the 2 more positive:
1.- Get back on your feet and dont

lose your faith and the interest to this community so we can evolve from our

mistakes.
2.- If your angry is greater than your faith in the community, delegate to

someone else to lay out meetings, etc to help the future of CF to develop. Of course, you

will brief this delegate of what is need it and how you think it should be done.

I

hope this could enlight a little bit everyone minds and have given you any

help.

Sincerely,

RG

Hi Guys,

RG said it all. I would like to be involved in all the aspects of

keeping this server running and building. My only issue is my time zone. Since I live in

the US, est...I'm getting home usually as the events are finishing...so I'm between a rock

and a hard place.

If there is something I can do administratively to assist, that can

be completed in my time zone, let me know.

@OP....I have been a Senior Managing

Executive (VP of Operations) for several years. Managing people, time and administrative

responsibilities can be a daunting task. Many times my staff cannot make the posted

meetings or budget discussions due to personal or corporate related duties. You have to

find a way to work with them or around them.

I choose to work with my staff. This in

turn has rewarded me with solid loyalty and dedication from the men & women under my

direction. However, many times, they direct me.

Let some of the individuals here

take a role to assist you. In turn, once they volunteer, those people need to follow through

with their responsibilities.

Leadership is about accountability, not

responsibility.

Thanks,

Gunny

Op,

I am not

arguing your point about your requests for help, because I've seen them all. So I know they

exist.

And I have answered to some as well.

I'd like to see everyone here

assume a task and help move this server and it's projects forward.

@ op i know for a fat that i have asked you about the SP for DC coz i have all

conversations copied from msn its part of the upgrade. and i have been told not to worry

about it. i even asked you last night when you and my clan was having a pvp match but still

i got no answer.

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ive asked to create an event plan

i have

been running the smugglers event for 2 weeks and i think ive done a good job so far yes i

have changed a few things but that makes it easier on me

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ive asked for

information about SL

talk to wolf he has just finished the SL game he might

be able to hel you in what you are looking for

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ive asked ppl to find out

things about new clans that show up on the server... all i know about them is what i have

found out myself

ive enven tried this one and when i try talking to new

clans they just dont reply to me i can see the frustraion here

other than this im not

sure what else i can do coz i dont