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Pandora · Sep 9th 2005

ugh, all this

reading is making me tired, can't you all just summarize? that's a rhetorical question.

Anyway, I must say, it's nice being a freelancer again, however, in a state of war, I will

fight for the clan that opposes the clan with the member that attacks me first, for whatever

reason, or I am up for temporary hire, I'm not the best fighter to say the least but I

can't wait to get back into combat.

Vlad · Sep 9th 2005

Lol, pandora...if you join Chaos, they're might be a prob determining who is the

real Pan...Pancake, or you....rofl

Kristof Bowen · Sep 9th 2005

I am curious then: Why give your Clan a label such as

'Pirate' at all if you don't intend to be what a Pirate is in the RP sense? Perhaps

Chaos should define itself as something else that more represents what you guys are about

and how you play with in CF.

DC_Dragonwarrior · Sep 9th 2005

as ive said before

this is a f****ing role playing game BG wanted to be military chaos wanted to be pirates and

now DC wants to be nercs and this has nothing to do with sig 19 shit that jib started. we

were bounty hunters before and in CSF there were biunties against alot fo chaos members some

BG which we took some of the other pirates in the CSf but for the sake of the CSF alliance

we did not take any bounties against CSf allied clans or ppl. no that we switched to a

neutral rp we are wrong for that since we were tired of not being able to do our damn rp

job. screw this we had our fun and DC has some itchy trigger fingers we all decided this

evenly to become mercs we got paid to help BG till sunday big damn deal, and yes i do see

some points where it looks like chaos wants to destroy the server and in some ways i dont.

i enjoyed playing alonside chaos for the most part of my time here in cf. i also still

believe that when this contract ends everything will be ok. jib there is no need to call

for war coz we did nothing to backstab you or your damn clan i also dont apperciate all the

name calling and shit i got from chaos last night if you want ppl to stop slandering you on

the forums than damn it you and your damn clan should have the respect to not do that on the

f****ing server,
Nitro and all who understands this the DC did not switch rp just to

destroy chaos i think they have some honorable ppl there but some are just plain stupid to

follow this shit into a war coz of a contract that ends on sunday night and we will hold up

our end in the deal and when this is contract ends chaos or anyone for that matter can hire

us again to help them and we will do it if the money is good enough to take so jib if you

want to counter next week then that is up to you and if BG want to hire again then that is

up to them but the money has to be right
everyone needs to realize that this is just a

damn game and everyone is trying to role play here but if they cant do that then surely the

server will die no one wins everyone loses so getover the fact that we are helping BG in

this and fight till the death until sunday and try again to fight some more but DO NOT TAKE

THIS ANGER OUT ON US YOU F***ING PIRATES we are just trying to rp and if this becomes a

personnal matter then to hell with everyone we will just kill randomly pick someone kill

them and find a new target no matter what clan or rp staus they have this can become the

servers worst nightmare for everyone so stop getting pissed off at us

Nitro · Sep 9th 2005

Given the RP

hiring DC can be justified.

Sigma 19 isn't the only place where pirates are roaming,

and given the RP it is our duty to counter the pirates, keep the traders safe and help

newcoming people on the server. Quite a lot of people we helped in the past turned

eventually against us in one pirate clan or the other, but we didn't complain.
So by

hiring a clan consist of trained pilots to assign them to a specific duty, as is defending

Sigma 19, does free up some BG pilots for others duties, such as defending our home and

helping new players. Since they are mercs we cannot assign them to defending our home. Same

thing as for instance the US would rent NATO soldiers (UK, Germany, Belgium, Canada, the

Netherlands and others) to defend their homeland because all their soldiers were fighting

somewhere for some cause. Unthinkable, same as it is unthinkable that we would hire someone

to protect custodian for us. We might ask for assistance, but not give the duty to them all

alone.

Corp · Sep 9th 2005

Chaos acts like a renegade military

clan, corsair and pirate. Thats fine enought. The problems arise when they dont win, which

is often. And when they win in army like battles, they make such a big mouth of it (curious

that the worst fighters are who speak loud), that the sure defeat that follow is more

sad.
If they will stick to the pirate thing there wont be such a thing like to loose or

defeat. Especially in s19. No traders? A lot of police? Then there is no point for chaos to

be there till a trader appear. Want to kill police? Ok, make ambushes and be in good numbers

against the police, ever, thats the way pirates fight, if they arent sure to win they run,

and thats victory for a pirate ... stay alive.

Thats only my oppinion, of course.

Jib · Sep 9th 2005

Dragon: U arnt listening. U dont have a

contract now, cause there's no reason for one. U and nitro thought u could determine the

outcome of our battle with bg and dictate terms to us.. but we decided not to play along

with your little plan. Now we will be the ones dictating terms to u. Expect to fight us

anywhere, at any time. This a clanwar between your clan and ours, and it ends in your

defeat... If that happens to be sunday at 23:59, so be it.

Theres no real reason for

it to hurt the server... Just ur clan. And in the end, there is no one to blame for that but

u.

Nitro Dont bring your hatred of the U.S. into this thing... man deep down i knew

that the thread about US vs Europe politics would be a bad idea.... cause some ppl just cant

make the leap between free exchange of ideas and opinions, and not holding personal grudges.

If ppl are wondering what im talking about , look at the "Altair" thread from 2

weeks ago (oh...the same time all the problems started....).

And its not like i

really am complaining about dc ... I was just defending our position againt all u ppl

getting out the torches and pitchforks.... So i yes dc had a right to do what they did. JUST

LIKE WE have a perfectly good right to declare war over it. "Finito", as op says, lol. Deal

with it.

Corp: Plenty of flaming and taunting going on both sides in a war. What

do ppl expect? And there were at least as many bg dieing yesterday as Chaos were.. and some

bg's tempers flared cause of that. But although u may have a point about us being like

"corsairs", dont forget Omega 5.. All they ever do is fight there, lol.. So even in the lame

RP parallels that ppl insist on making, we have a precedent, lol.

@ kristof: U

missed the point altogether. We dont care if we are not your little ideal of what Pirates

should be, and we dont give damn if u like it or not.

Nitro · Sep 9th 2005

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Originally

posted by Jib
Nitro Dont bring your hatred of the U.S. into this thing... man deep

down i knew that the thread about US vs Europe politics would be a bad idea.... cause some

ppl just cant make the leap between free exchange of ideas and opinions, and not holding

personal grudges.

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Jib you really don't get it? It was an EXAMPLE!

Kristof Bowen · Sep 9th 2005

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Originally posted by Jib @ kristof: U

missed the point altogether. We dont care if we are not your little ideal of what Pirates

should be, and we dont give damn if u like it or not.

It has nothing to do with

my ideal, but the actual definition of 'Pirate'.

pi·rate
n.

1. a.

One who robs at sea or plunders the land from the sea without commission from a sovereign

nation.
b. A ship used for this purpose.
2. One who preys on others; a

plunderer.

v. pi·rat·ed, pi·rat·ing, pi·rates
v. tr.

1. To attack and

rob (a ship at sea).
2. To take (something) by piracy.

v. intr.

To act as a pirate; practice piracy.

DC_Dragonwarrior · Sep 9th 2005

in regards to what is being said jib then i guess this will contiune till you get want you

want coz we wont surrender for nothing and you might kill us a hundered times but that is ok

coz we wont leave the serve either in the near future coz of this and u being so damn

determined to have a war with us and try to run us over or own us you will never win that

one coz for sure m8 i think that after op( the one chaos calls a tyrant) which i think is a

good guy since he has helped me out many times most likely will end the war anyways to where

we both lose but that is on you. and beleive me if you attack us first we will defend and

return fire so i just hope you are ready and i also think you are taking this too personal

and you havent answered my question to you please elaborate on how we betrayed you coz i

beleive you have no other means to show that but by calling for a war that you have no proof

to back it up

in the famous words of larry the cable guy "git er dun"

Jib · Sep 9th 2005

U amaze me

dragon. WhyTF should i need to provide u with any proof of betrayal.... Your actions are all

i need. And what ever chats converstations i had with your officers were not recorded, why

should i? At the time there was no need not to trust them.

Interesting comment about

op stopping our war so we both lose.... Has he offered to help u out of this mess or

something? If u look at SWAT_OPR8R's Profile on this forum, below his Avatar there is one

word: "GOD" (its true, go look, lol...).

But even the Greek, Roman, or Norse gods

didnt stop the wars of man.... they enjoyed watching them too much, lol. U are banking on

your friendship with OP to save u, i guess. Good luck with that.

The reality is that

u got urself into this mess and u will have to figure a way out, or some1 else in your clan

will do it for u.

Your other bg-buddy Nitro wasnt hurt too badly by all of this,

tho.... was he? oh the original plan got snafu'ed but there are plenty more plans.... too

bad ur clan got left holding the bag....

Here's an interesting scenario for u: what

if that was part of the plan afterall? Bg gets a few more days to gather wayward members and

prepare while we fight u... Public opinion forum blitz makes it look like i am a crazed

hitler-wannabe, lol... and no matter how Chaos reacted to your attack, it goes ok for them.

Once we fought a clanwar, there would be zero chance of Chaos allying with dc or hiring u

against them. A win-win for them, eh?... clever.

But either way, or anyway.... we

will force u to surrender. The sooner u do it, the less damage ur clan will have to its

morale = players staying = future.

Vlad · Sep 9th 2005

Oh yeah, here's something else...Nitr0x was docked in

ogashawa, and then Dragon undocked, and so did he, and than they fought...they fought again

in Honshu....After tr0xie landed, they started talking, and somewhere in the conversation,

Dragon says,"I considered n0x a friend untill this"......WTF???? Do you expect us to not

defend ourselves when attacked?

PR[]_|<||_|_ER · Sep 9th 2005

LOL wtf are u talking abaut?

Avenger · Sep 9th 2005

nvm

nitr0x · Sep 9th 2005

actually the second kill on him was at the sig19>honshu gate.. not in honshu, but yeah,

just correcting soes to not allow a loophole for BG and DC to abuse against us

DC_Dragonwarrior · Sep 10th 2005

ok let me clear this here and now that conversation with nitrox was

to let him know that i had trusted him till he merged with chaos plain and simple and if im

correct i think i did put the most clans in the CSf when they were still playing. so i dont

want to hear shit about back stabbign if anyone was back stabbing then those clans that are

not here any more back stabbed the entire CSF. and no i have not asked op for anything to

help me and i didnt ask nitro either and if BG is building stronger while we fight then so

be it i dont care. as for us holding a bag dont care for that one either and jib you can

sit here all damn day and tell me that my clan is going to suffer and all that but if you

ask anyone of them they will all tell you that they are having fun just like i am so if a

war is supposed to hurt a clan then what the hell do you do if the clan is enjoying the war.

what are you gonna do now jib if you read any of my post since the threat, the declaration

of war, and the first fire i have said that it was fun
by the way jib and to all chaos

members do me one favor if you will
GRAB YOUR EARS, COUNT TO 3 AND IF YOU HEAR A LOUD POP

THEN THAT MEANS YOUR HEAD JUST CAME OUT OF ITS 4TH POINT OF CONTACT and remeber that you

cant make someone suffer for something if they think what you are doing is FUN now just

please remeber that ok

nitr0x · Sep 10th 2005

ROFLMAO!

dude,

the loud pop thing didnt work, i dont get it?
i tried it though...
what did i miss?

Don_Zardeone · Sep 10th 2005

Yeah, it didn't work, how do you do that?

Jib · Sep 10th 2005

oookees. we will have some fun then dragon.

Whee!

**SWAT_OP-R8R** · Sep 10th 2005

Quote

Interesting comment about op stopping our war so we both lose.... Has he

offered to help u out of this mess or something? If u look at SWAT_OPR8R's Profile on this

forum, below his Avatar there is one word: "GOD" (its true, go look, lol...).

whoa - to be exact its... Call me "GOD"
its less hard to write than

SWAT_OP-R8R

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But even the Greek, Roman, or Norse gods didnt stop the wars

of man.... they enjoyed watching them too much, lol. U are banking on your friendship with

OP to save u, i guess. Good luck with that.

ur damn right... they

didnt
and i think DC will be glad to get some training... so ehmm guys... have fun...

enjoy the fights and dont blame me when ppl which were friends once turn into enemies
ppl

can do their down decisions... DC accepted the job we offered as a reaction to the s-19

blockade and chaos declared war... i hope you guys feel better now that you waste ur time

with a stupid war which will be hard to win

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Here's an interesting

scenario for u: what if that was part of the plan afterall? Bg gets a few more days to

gather wayward members and prepare while we fight u... Public opinion forum blitz makes it

look like i am a crazed hitler-wannabe, lol... and no matter how Chaos reacted to your

attack, it goes ok for them. Once we fought a clanwar, there would be zero chance of Chaos

allying with dc or hiring u against them. A win-win for them, eh?... clever.

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hmmm clever... u turn out to become a real leader... thinking about

possibilities instead of problems
but on the other side... nobody forced you to

declare war... the solution would have been so simple... stay away from s-19 till sunday and

dont declare a war... this way BG would have payed alot of money for nothing (at least thats

how i would handle the situation... but it seems that its too late for that now)

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