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  • According to some LP members and some solo pirates I would like to ask for a clearup


    As of late, I have been takling with a few players about this matter, Some pirates read this as


    "If a player got taxed by you, you cant tax him/her again"


    Meaning that other's can tax you..


    Then on the other hand, DrStraw, Piccard I takled to those as well and they told me


    " If a player has been taxed he may not get taxed again within the next 2 hours."


    I am sorry for the lack of screenshots but could an serverpolice clear this up ? If its that the player cant get dtaxed for 2 hours by anyone please tell LP and -=Exodus=-
    (solo pirate) that thats the rule


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  • Hm the rules tell about a 2 hours free time if you once was taxed. This means if you paid the tax to a pirate - this pirate is not allowed to tax you again within the next 2 hours.


    But we dont have a list which player was taxed or not. So other pirates dont know anything about a previous tax. Unless another pirate tell him that he taxed already. But then its common sense if he left the player or taxed him again.


    If you have troubles with pirates you should ask for some freelancers that may protect you or the police. Its their job to act against pirate taxing^^

  • Lol, Its not really my problem, its just some pirates make trouble, And by that I mean, There was yesterday an arguement about, where 1 pirate took it on all others.


    Most pirates I explain the rule, and they would listen


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  • Guys, i´m with Huor here.


    Our book of Rule interpretations is big enough, i never thought about that someone could think about it in this Way Wolvie.


    If it would be that a player taxed by the pirate A couldn´t be taxed by pirate B every player would say "Hey i was taxed before by Pirate A" (which is logged out 5 min ago for example). And pirate B, C, D and so on who would login after A was logged out are not able to tax anymore.


    ImO taxing and fining are quite the same things. I can fine Smuggler A, B and C (if they ever would pay of course) and the next Officer (from MN for example) could do the same with the same smuggler. So why shouldn´t different pirates be allowed to tax the same Player more than one time. In my first step on CF MP i was hardly taxed by nearly every LP who was jumping in.


    And a last thing: Taxing often is for picking a fight so i could pay 1 time when taxed and never have to fight again in the next 2 hours? lol "nice" idea - i bet many of our X or NB "campers" (no offence) wouldn´t like that.


    About the "no pirate should tax this player again", well guys, we are on a RP Server - the question is WHY should a pirate not do his job? We are not working with real money here - noone is harmed when paying a small tax. After the no suiciding Rule (btw. i have the feeling that some NPC´s growth up to the hell in strength lately ^^) did any pirate try to tax a small amount of cash instead of "Hey Kermit 6 Mil. or 3 or 2 Tax"? Tax a Million, i bet some would pay instead of fighting when a full load of Ammo is about 800000 (without any repair costs of course) - the highest repair i payed lately was about 2,5 Mil - thanks Doom :D. And with my Ammo it was 3,3 Mil. so others would have this costs too.


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  • Well put Kermit.


    Just a sidenote: if smugglers don't pay you, you should probably work on your persuasion skills^^

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    Originally posted by Kermit
    After the no suiciding Rule (btw. i have the feeling that some NPC´s growth up to the hell in strength lately ^^) did any pirate try to tax a small amount of cash instead of "Hey Kermit 6 Mil. or 3 or 2 Tax"? Tax a Million, i bet some would pay instead of fighting when a full load of Ammo is about 800000 (without any repair costs of course) - the highest repair i payed lately was about 2,5 Mil - thanks Doom :D. And with my Ammo it was 3,3 Mil. so others would have this costs too.



    Correct me if im wrong but I just understood this from your words:


    The new "no suicide while trading rule" has make players to trade less> Players have less cash> Pirates should tax less amount of cash.



    If its like that, we hold the weigth of the new rule over our shoulders...great. :D

  • My understanding of this rule is that if you pay tax to a freelancer pirate, then he is not allowed to tax you again for 2 hours. If you pay tax to a pirate in a clan, none of that clan may tax you again for 2 hours.


    On the rare occasions I do pay tax, I always grab a sceenine of the chat window showing the transfer to the pirate. I make sure I have used the "/time" command just before so the screenie has the time the transfer was made in it. This way I can always prove who has taxed me and when.

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    About the "no pirate should tax this player again", well guys, we are on a RP Server - the question is WHY should a pirate not do his job? We are not working with real money here - noone is harmed when paying a small tax. After the no suiciding Rule (btw. i have the feeling that some NPC´s growth up to the hell in strength lately ^^) did any pirate try to tax a small amount of cash instead of "Hey Kermit 6 Mil. or 3 or 2 Tax"? Tax a Million, i bet some would pay instead of fighting when a full load of Ammo is about 800000 (without any repair costs of course) - the highest repair i payed lately was about 2,5 Mil - thanks Doom . And with my Ammo it was 3,3 Mil. so others would have this costs too.


    Dude, I didnt complain of the rule, i made this topic to get a clearup...


    Its stated on the official site, And alot of experienced pirates apply this rule...


    Thats the only reason I made this topic, since its 2 sided.. and I would like to get it cleared up.. preferable by a server admin rather then players, if you understand what I mean, Players are differend sided, and the server admins have to apply those rules..


    *Edit: This happens also when the other pirate is on -.-


    Get it right, Its ERRR. The wolf way.. associates from GRRR.. Stupid humans! xD

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    Originally posted by Kermit
    In my first step on CF MP i was hardly taxed by nearly every LP who was jumping in.


    :D true :P


    okay guys .. lets stop here now, or we'll get in trouble again for making the RP issues again ...


    make it simple :
    pay tax or die .. if you dont want to make RP, say it in system chat, and pirates/cops gonna let you go (i wont let you go, of course :D )

  • Thats not the case, Inferno...


    If you read why this topic was made, its obviously not to make an RP problem, but rather solve an problem that exists right now with the sides splitted on this ruling.


    As you can see, its no RP problem, just a matter that 60% of pirates apply the rule of No taxing within 2 hours if allready taxed


    40% is on the otherside...


    Offcourse, this is a rough estimation of what I see from pirates, and what I hear


    Get it right, Its ERRR. The wolf way.. associates from GRRR.. Stupid humans! xD

  • Sometimes it can be as simple as Inferno said, and it´s working ;)


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  • Ye, I agree fully, if half of the pirates are taxing without following the rule as many people get it in english, then there is another solution (or 2)..



    1 suggestion each side:


    A /tax command which would see which has been taxed or not if it stays as not being taxed for 2 hours


    /tax ID/NAME ammount


    /tax list for list of taxed people


    For the 2 hour a pirate can tax a person just edit the ruling


    I think this topic might be moved to suggestions that way for CF 1.8


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  • we dont have such a feature and its unlikely that we will get such a feature

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  • It is very disappointing that people cant follow the rules as they are written and feel a right to interpretations instead. The RP rule clearly says: a player may not be taxed again for 2 hours after the player pays tax.


    Imagine if a player could be taxed over and over. How many players would CF lose? Answer: CF would lose many players.


    People had better start thinking about not chasing players off of CF instead of their own greedy little RP's.

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  • the rule is pretty clear. wonder why people try to "understand" the rule.


    "If a player has been taxed he may not get taxed again within the next 2 hours."


    Anyhow I would agree on Kermit & Hour BUT this requires a change in the written rules which is most likely not going to happen until 1.8.


    Its always a back and forth.. Some (authorities) say we shall not interpret the rules, some (authorities) are complaining that we "Now actually do take the rules serious". It is about impossible to play active while not breaking one of the lot contradictory rules here.

  • Well the best thing for a server admin to confirm this send a message to LP and Exodus


    Some LP do not care if people are taxed..


    WhiteWash, which I explained the rule, says he will follow it when he taxed me after i was taxed 5 min ago.


    So I think, maybe if people could help me with this campaign, to make LP and Exodus know that that is the rule.


    @OP, Why wouldnt you be trying to make that feature, I am pretty sure many of us could beta test it so the testers are there, sure, 1.8 might be released later then scheduled, but think of it, it fixes one part of RP.


    What I forgot to say as a paying tax command /paytax which could be checked if there is a tax on that person....


    And as exactly as Burro said, there is both a risc on it if you make it so they can tax all the time...


    So we really should get the clans known


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  • @Lucy,
    too impatient for it :]


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    Originally posted by Wolvie
    @OP, Why wouldnt you be trying to make that feature, I am pretty sure many of us could beta test it so the testers are there, sure, 1.8 might be released later then scheduled, but think of it, it fixes one part of RP.


    What I forgot to say as a paying tax command /paytax which could be checked if there is a tax on that person....


    that would be rather me, who would need to add this console command, and i am packed. i do also remember what happened with the last console command for role play: the bounty system...

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  • the only one who can add such a feature is haegar but i wont ask him to do that since he has enough other stuff to do
    not to mention that fact that everytime we add new stuff ppl start to abuse or complain about it and im not really up for this

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