Greetings.

Maudib/Usul

Hey Cleanup - I vote yes.

But if you step out of line first time - whack you are off again.

If you come back, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please,

Do not make people mad - just kill them.

No insult people.

ahoy giga

my vote is "yes" .. never had problems with you ... also, if community alows you to return, you can return to {LP}'s aswell ... only that you wont see me online anymore, cuz i have some RL things to make

see ya around,
Inf

i dont have a problem with u giga, welcome back

So the Lagmeister returns yet again? My only objection is that in every incarnation to date, Giga/Schatten/Cleanup has been nearly impossible to even HIT with weapons fire, due to PvP lag issues. Perhaps this is only an artifact that those of us with high pings actually see, so SP's generally cannot experience the same effect, but whatever the cause, many players have been at a disadvantage because of it. I suppose, if the majority of the community agrees, I will have to just plan my game around another hazard, but his long history of bans here makes me reluctant to agree...[687]

I agree with you Centuarian. Perhaps my memory deceives me but I seem to remember him also being the cause a lot of in-game trouble. There have been many chances already so I say "no," but since I don't harbor a grudge here I'm not going to go headhunting if the rest of you say otherwise.

I agree with Marshal and Centurian its a "NO" from me...sorry but way to much trouble way to many times:(

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Originally posted by Marshal Cunningham
I agree with you Centuarian. Perhaps my memory deceives me but I seem to remember him also being the cause a lot of in-game trouble.

Yes he did cause a lot of trouble and dealing with him whilst all the other LPs leaders away nearly cause me an emotional breakdown.

Never want to go through that again.

Why not go headhunting if he comes back?

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Originally posted by Azadur
Why not go headhunting if he comes back?

Because I couldn't hit him back when I was good at PvP. What makes you think I could now that I'm so bad that some people can kill me on their second pass? I could be blasting up the universe until the cows come home and still not have struck hull. [rofl]

I'll respect whatever decision the community comes to, it's just my five cents m8. It's not that I dislike him, it's just that I'm having trouble imagining anything besides what we've seen the past few times around.

Well.... I've been banned before, from multiple servers, on multiple forums, and am I always a trouble maker? Or is that a bad question?

I vote no. I was having enough troubles with u, i don't want to bring back these memories [2]

Well, I too remember some probs associated with Cleanup, so I do have reservations...
At times I tried to help, but I think our communication lost something in translation
@ Cleanup, if you are allowed to return may I suggest you read the rules, then read the rules, then read the rules.....after that decide if you can play by them, then read the rules, learn the rules, accept the rules and play by the rules.....if you do so there shouldn't be any problems
Good luck m8

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Because I couldn't hit him back when I was good at PvP. What makes you think I could now that I'm so bad that some people can kill me on their second pass? I could be blasting up the universe until the cows come home and still not have struck hull. [rofl]

Well there a lot of people that kill me - that I can;t seem to hit at all - and I suppose some people would say the same about me.

Two issues here

1 - Cheating
2 - Offensive behaviour

Cleanup said some bad things to some very good friends of mine on the server - he made his own rod for his back so to speak.

I vote he comes back - with reservations as I said

But if the community overall says no - he can blame only himself.

You can bee 100% assured I wanted to kill him myself on numerous occassions and as I made clear to Gunny at the time - camping in Deadulus to escape suitable punishment would not be an issue as I would not interfere with official police buiness - even if that was in D

Maybe we can invite him back and then KOS him all over the server - I would imagine the Mercs would make a killing so to speak

Either way - I will respect the views of the community

I have no Problems with Schatten.
I vote yes.

Ich hab keine Probleme mit Schatten.
Ich stimme mit ja.

i have no problems i vote "yes" for Schatten.... we must give him a chance.....

no

@Giga, So long as you respect server rules and follow them. I would welcome you back.

@Anyone who has a problem with this. There are Server Police, if you have evidence of rulebreaking or problems, take it up with the server police as per the server rules!. I will not be punishing Giga at other peoples personal request i dont care who you are unless your admin or an SP.

Saxon.
{LP} Leader (Europe zone)

Hmmm is anyone asking you to punish him at there request?

If this is the case then thats not right everyone should speak there own minds and how they feel on this subject....please guys no trying to influance others decisions.

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Hmmm is anyone asking you to punish him at there request?

If this is the case then thats not right everyone should speak there own minds and how they feel on this subject....please guys no trying to influance others decisions.

slayer,
"if you have evidence of rulebreaking or problems", IF does not mean somebody has.

why was my post a bit defensive? read below.

@Centurian, if he returns to the server, if the problem still exists will you take up with an SP?. Surely that is better than calling somebody a 'Lagmeister' in the public forum. I understand your urgument and your entitled to your opinion, however, there was no need to be that aggressive. (unless of course you want to be Gigas no1 target)

I see what you mean m8 i was more commenting on this part of your post:-

"I will not be punishing Giga at other peoples personal request i dont care who you are unless your admin or an SP. "

I simply got the impression that someone had tried to influence ur decision.