SMG

I personally have no grievences against SMG, but I would think the most important question is if IOC thinks you should be able to rent a system and become a serverclan, respectively.

I support the idea so long as SMG works in the interests of the community. There have been a lot of foul rumors circulating about intent but I would hope you guys get the benefit of the doubt. How this will effect things on the server we will only know if you get to go ahead with it. Best of luck to you and good hunting.

It's OP's server, so it's his call. It is better for players not to leave the server, but any clan which wants to be a true server clan must make the decision in advance that they will serve not only their own interests, but more so, those of the server community. SMG's inception did not demonstrate a server-oriented motivation, and the events which led to its founding appeared to be motivated by self-gratification. I realize that this is not universally true of its membership, but SMG will have to prove to the rest of the community that they have learned from recent events that restraint is a requirement of server clans, not just something arbitrarily imposed by "tyrannical" clan leaders... [4]

i got np, btw - does SMG mean the Sub Machine gun?

Uh, um... nope. Last time I checked it was Sirius Mercenary Guild

i dont see why not

I told Burro he had my support, without reservation.

That being said, I will close by saying; Becoming a Server Clan means you accept all the responsibility that comes with it, therefore I expect SMG to act like a Server Clan.

Burro we have put all that horrible crap behind us now.

So i give you my full support in establishing SMG as an official server clan.

i dont see a problem
make the clan and good luck

i have no problem with it, good luck SMG

Ok

Sorry to say that but i have a problem with your RP - as long as you don´t define a clear RP to SMG i will refuse the request.

As you are Mercs - i will not hire you because you are smuggling more than making jobs and your Members are shooting without any Reason as a pirate. Even when i try to explain it they don´t hear.

As you are smugglers, you are wearing a Merc license and do Merc jobs put it of your ships please and stop collecting the Bounties and hire Mercs instead of pirates.

As you are Pirates stop that Bounty collecting and stop smuggling plz the union with pirates is ok than.

I am atm not able to see your RP. As long as u will not show and play it no support from me and my clear vote is NO.

Why do i do that? I know many of u guys as players with which i realy like to play - but i as a policeman need to know what i have to do when you are on (friend or enemy hunter or to be hunted). I have a problem with that please clear it.

A simple no would be enough. About the rest I will contact you privitly. And I already told you the reason about most of the things in your post and I am under the impression that we are ready with solution.

About smuggling - I smuggle once, maybe twice a week only to restore my cash balance. I pay fines in the process to make it look little more lawful. I do it cause I don't have the time to make 500 mil (that's how much I usually spend for 1 week) doing prisioners runs.

LeRoi,

you took part on only one part. I didn´t post this because of a one time happening Mate and i have nothing against some smuggeling fun - i love it.

Just choose your Clan RP and my support will be secure equal what kind of RP you will choose.

OK Kermit will make his point we will concider it and deal with the situation in the best possible way. No need of public discussions of something that from my point of view is minor disagreement on some a subsidiary questions. As I already said that I will contact Kermit so he can make his point if he want and we will try to find solution whatever the issue is. It's quite simple - Kermit is reasonable man, we are reasonable too so in this case nothing is impossible :] .

Absolutely nothing happened these days in Sector 83 by 9 by 12. I repeat, nothing happened in Sector 83912. Please remain calm.

This is copied directly from the Merc rules of the RP rules:

Mercenaries:

All mercs must have a merc licence mounted on their ship. Only exception is if an ASF or CSF licence is mounted and the whole clan is known to be mercs.

Mercs are allowed to accept "jobs" from any other roleplay faction (including Freelancers).
Jobs are escort services, assasinations, deliveries or anything else that is worth paid for.
The amount of money a merc can get for a job depends on his "customer" but it should be less than a min. amount (see "Taxes, Fines, Bounty").
Mercs may not ask for fines or taxes.

This is an interpretation!

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As Merc's we can be hired for any task:

1.Someone wants coalie turrets well they can hire SMG to get them but it will be expensive.

2.We can be hired to fly trains for any clan or faction.

3. We can be hired to unload trains.

4. We can be hired for escort duty

5. We can be hired for Contract kills

6. Etc....

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Both have nothing to do with my problems to give a yes to a clan which is living three RP´s imO. And this is even no offence to you burro it´s a request for a clear RP.

btw: you should know that i´m very familar with the Merc RP because i earned my money with it for month before i was joining CFPD - do you remember the old times?

Wavey
interesting...

this is where your merc ideas break down, on the 'protection' jobs.

reason why is because countless times i have been trading or mapping or collecting equips and im attacked for no reason. not necessarily always your merc clan, but mercs in general.

Server RP rules do not say anything about KOS on Police or Pirates for Merc RP except for an assasination.

The fact your client is carrying BMG does not entitle you to attack police just because hes in scanner range. What does allow you to attack police is if the police try to kill the guy you are protecting, i.e. they start shooting. Same against Pirates.

Here is example of what engagements we should really see:
Police: Smuggler i see your BMG, drop it and pay Fine!
Smuggler: No im under protection.
Police: (knowing now he will have 2 or more ppl to fight decides to attack or leave the smuggler to go about his business).

Pirate: Tax or Die!!
Smuggler: No im under protection!.
Pirate: (decides to either fight the protectors too or leave him alone.)

This is just sticking to server rules. and not making new ones up, because... Merc are not allowed to KOS Pirates and Police.
If you want to go around KOS'ing anyone near you then be a Pirate clan.

On another note, Police are not allowed to KOS smugglers (server rule), they are supposed to be fining them, same as pirates try more often than not to tax first.

So why the hostility being shown toward police and pirate i will never know, but this itself does cause problems so have a think about it.