Posts by Jib

Ahh, me old

buddy wavey...

U said:
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No

Jib your forums were deleted by the person who runs your forum.
Trowa has caused all

this shit ,playing one side against another
We didnt push u around u did that with sigma

19
Don has been involved as well
Simply put BG never attacked or declared war on

Chaos ,you decided we were going 2!
Now if you disagree fine ,but why the hell didnt or

dont u try to deal with this without wars?
I will prob get a slap for posting but oh

well...

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1. Since u mentioned

this here: Who was it that destroyed the Chaos forum and how do u know this information??

That is a serious charge; so u back it up now. U will notice that i did not accuse

anyone of this... at this time i really dont have any proof who it was.

2. U may be

right about trowa, but im not convinced about his motives or goal yet. U are wrong about Don

tho. He is like some kind boogy-man to u guys.... i assure u he is not fighting online with

us (i know everyone of our guys fighting), and really has no bearing on this.

3. Did

u really think the war zone in sig19 was "pushing u around". We can all recall it was the

state of affairs anyway... Chaos would come in to attk bg traders there for weeks (eh, since

v1.5x started, really). All the Zone declaration did was formalize it so it would not turn

into a big nasty thing (my intent was to make it like an event and a way for us to compete

without war)... It didn't go badly for either side until bg decided to widen the conflict

by hiring dc. So from out point of view... It looked like it wasnt going well enough for u

guys in your opinion, so u decided to push us out by using dc. That was risky, so any blame

should be shared.

3. Bg did attack us while we were fighting the war with dc.....

No one has denied this until u did now. Which of course is kinda silly cause there clearly

is no denying it... What ever bg wants to call it, "role play" or whatever, it was still an

attack on us.

4. To deal with it without war.... Sounds very nice but sometimes

clanwar is the best solution to a situation. Remember it is not a real war where ppl get

hurt.... And it doesnt have to be particularly mean and poisoning either..... After all, it

can be held only in space and not on the forums, too lol....... But all through their

history, the bg have used forum war and propaganda as a major tool to help win wars. So i am

not surprised by these attacks, just surprised that more ppl dont recognize them for what

they are.

I can only assume no Chaos leadership were at this

meeting?..... We were available all weekend. Who were the 4 chaos that attended,

pls?

1) In topic 1 u said:

"The server and the SWAT-Portal was down because

of the shit members of this community did and tried to do. "

I can only assume u mean

some of us Chaos, lol.... Well that is not very conductive to discussion. NM. We agree that

the level of discussion should be kept calm and not personal.

2) About fakes... I

dont think there are any fakes in Chaos, unless there is a bg spy or plant there.... Some1

who also agrees with the bg position as well and who just started in the clan last week

perhaps.... but i dunno that for sure yet since we have had no contact.. But either way

these ppl certainly dont speak for us....

Now do some of the ppl still in Chaos

have other-named chars (i still keep one called Jib which has the record for most explored

systems and jump holes...)? So its possible but they havnt been seen in space since the dc

war started. I think the "new" rule that clan members have no untagged chars caught

everyone (including dc) except bg by surprise.... since bg were the only ones to have that

as a clan rule.

4) The role of trowa in all this is unclear. Who was he working for

at what particular time, what are his motives? I can tell u that he was also the person

pretending to be AngelEyes, so maybe he deserved a good cussing out for being a liar and a

provocateur....

Don Z is op's problem to solve and has nothing to do with us: A bg

who refuses to accept current leadership's dictates. But he is not "in league with Chaos to

destroy bg" and i believe he is not playing online (and hasnt since he left months ago).

But we do have a large amount of respect for him; as do many ppl still in bg.

5) To

understand the transcript and why it was given to op, u must understand Chaos' role in

this.... which seems difficult for some. We are protecting our interests. We are not out to

destroy anything but when attacked we will fight for victory, which mean defeat for the

other side.

7) No one should be surprised that dc were hired earlier by bg to fight

us, one or 2 at a time... It was mentioned earlier, and remember that was our compromise

position that dc wasnt interested in even discussing..... But no PiA were hired by Chaos

command.... I believe they offered their services for free to help once, tho.... Until they

were threatened by dc to leave or face clan war with them (ironic, huh?). We don't want

other clans to be caught up in the "punishment" game thats being played here against

us.

8 ) A supposed Screen Shot from the Chaos forum?? Interesting subject. Well..

perhaps if i knew spys were copying our stuff i would have said the word "conflict" instead

of "war"..... Because everyone on the server knew that bg were attacking Chaos.

But

for the 20th time: It doesnt matter anyway because a clan has to declare war on one another

either on the forums (as Nitro insisted that i must to do when we declared on dc ....), or

by saying it clearly in space. Threats and ultimatums dont count, declare war yourself it

thats what u want.

Chaos never declared war, still hasnt, still wont. Ppl trying to

claim that just cannot do it..... because it never happened.

The Chaos forum was

destroyed yesterday by malicious attack..... Luckily we finished moving to a new more

secure location 2 days before that happened.... Lol, ive been reading "The Art of War" and

it gave me hunch something like that would happen. We are not accusing anyone in particular

of this dirty event. But know that it did happen, thats a truth.

9) To stop the

flaming and personal attacks is a good idea. To stop other ppl from dissenting on your views

is another. The idea that this is all Chaos' fault is just plain wrong..... And we wont be

a scape-goat. Nor will we stop commenting on issues that are important to us.

12)

Again the idea this is all our fault, lol....... Well thats just absurd and if ppl think

they must be cowed into saying that, just so the server can stay up... Dont worry. Op has

lots of reasons for keeping the server up and making neutral freelancers happy is not at the

top of his list.... Think about it. And think about the absurdity of blaming the shut down

and possible permanent shut down on me and Chaos.... Is it more likely this is being used as

a ploy to unite ppl against us? Right before a major war erupts (if bg declares war cause we

wont)?

13) About my personal Serverpolice rights.... I probably wont be paying op for

a system anymore (why would i ever donate or pay him another dime after this treatment?).

So my right to be SP could expire at the end of the month anyway, as would our lease on

Casius. If it happens at least i can get rid of the char and use it for another fighter,

lol.

Conclusion:

It is clear this whole thing about the shut-down went pretty

much as we expected it to go. Although i did expect to see a formal declaration of war from

bg at the same time as the return... But it appears they think they can just go on with

their undeclared war on us... trying to look cool while doing it, making us look like the

war mongers.... When in reality they are trying to stop their ally from losing a war and

stop us from winning one, but without actually declaring war themselves..... Well, all the

"warmaonger" personal attacks didnt work last week and i doubt they will work now.

Its important for ppl to understand that we are defending our rights and our honor

as a Clan... from ppl who would push us around and say: "If u dont like it just leave"...

Well maybe we will leave eventually (since we are no longer welcome here), But no one runs

us off..... That u can bank on that. We can be banned, sure.... But we wont me muzzled and

we wont back down and you cant get rid of us by using propaganda.

Nitro

said:
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Who says it was 350 mil? Perhaps the

price was low...... very low.... perhaps we got it all

back.
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Geez i would hope so, lol.....

cause u ended up spending alot more time and effort over this than u would have fighting us

in sig19... (but then u had a chance of losing those battles now and then... unthinkable to

the bg command... beter go hire some help, lol).

Doesnt matter. Doesnt matter what

others besides dc think of our event proposal. All that matters is dc refuses to reply about

it so has no interest in ending the war by fair fight... Why should they as long as they

have bg propping them up, lol.....

So it will continue, and prolly widen when bg

realizes we wont do the declaring so they must do it themselves... Cause this was always

part of their plan anyway.

Well if u want to try and "punish" us, go right ahead.

Frankly were sick of all your personal attack bullshit, fake reasonings, and posturing.

If we dont hear from some1 in dc leadership by the end of today we will assume the

offer to have a Battle Event to end this clanwar between dc and Chaos has been rejected by

dc. The offer will then be removed; and it will continue to be a regular clanwar... By

definition a fight to the death of one clan or the other.

Is this what u ppl wanted

by dising the offer for no reason other that to piss on anything we proposed? Delay works in

our favor as well.

We made fair offers for compromise, which were rejected out of

hand, causing the war in the first place. We offered to end it quickly and fairly, again

ignored..... And op then said some snide remark about some1, (WP Clan i think) doing that

only when they were losing, lol... he said himself it wasnt even his business, yet he

couldnt help saying that.... Mr. neutral admin, the same guy who goes to our system Casius

(...while we are already busy fighting a battle againsta both dc and bg's), and makes

server-wide announcements taunting us, deliberatly tryiong to provoke us.

I suggest

this: If some1 tries their best to infuriate another person, to provoke them, then they

should be punished as well as the person provoked. Because it is a low, disgusting tactic

without honor.... In fact, their clan members should punish the person themselves. About the

same as ppl who sit by a dock waiting to be shot at, lol...

The bg continue to

interfere in our lawfull clanwar, to help their allies but they refuse to declare war...

Instead they use underhanded tactics and personal attacks and set-up jobs to try and wear us

down first...

Well those kind of tactics only strengthen our resolve, and show the

new ppl why we have all the reasons in the world to distrust op and bg.

Well in all fairness, the rank's been

like that since the change in providers (the first one i think). The inability to use quote

function was recent tho, dunno how long since i dont like to use it as much as others do,

lol.

Doesnt matter. leave it like it is for all i care.

PiA hadnt

officially joined CSF yet, actually.

thats a total

load of crap. Even u cant really believe it....
Clanwar doesnt affect roleplay: Utterly

ridiculous.
Bg at war every day... hah.

BG is always at war with who? One of ur

old enemies GF or something (btw here another chance to tell us how great u were and how

they were are all cheaters).

You c in op's long history.... Not one of his enemies

were "good guys and worthy opponents"...... Every one of them had something "wrong" and

"bad" about them. He is just a crusader for good, i guess.....

Well u just go on

saving dc's bacon for them, prolonging and complicating this war... using any noob excuse u

want (the "role play" one stinks so bad u obviously dont care enough about public opinion to

even think up a good one).

Pancake mentioned that Don Zardione was banned from

forum, so i found out out he is not fully banned just "Muted" meaning OP stopped him from

posting his comments here..

Hmm. i just did a search of his posts are there is

nothing there that would get him banned... Unless of course it was because he agreed with

Chaos on an issue or too... Is that why?

Well Don is an observer who could go either

way as far as Chaos is concerned... His next comment might be criticizing us... So i dont

understand why OP muted him or why he accuses Don of somehow being behind these troubles (an

absurd charge if thats what he believes)... Other than make a few posts here, what is it

Don's supposed to have done?

Since i have some stake in this (he is apparently

accused of helping us somehow) i have to ask why Don is muted..?

I dont want to see

anyone friend or foe denied the chance to comment. Does anyone else here really want

that?

Crowd outside of swat headquarters:

UN-MUTE THE DON!
UN-MUTE THE

DON!
UN-MUTE THE DON!

Corp: R O F L that was a much

needed laugh, thx.

Nitro, if u are threatening

to declare war on Chaos "For Denial of Role Play" (ROFL), well i cant stop u from doing

that.

Cause even blackbeard's ghost is tired of hearing u go on and on about it.

U want war with Chaos, so bad u can taste it.... It really vexes u that u couldnt

goad us into doing it, doesn't it? For the 13th time (i think its 13), no we wont declare

war on bg.

@ There is one major difference between the war zone in Sig 19 and your

attacking Chaos in defense of dc.....
WE ARE IN A CLANWAR... BG IS INTERFERING IN A

LAWFULL CLANWAR.

Look.... U will do what u do, say what u say but in the end: U are

interfering to stop Chaos from beating dc, or stopping dc from being defeated period (by

anyone). Or both.

Ppl those are the core facts

here.
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Edit: Op i would prefer to talk privatly to

u about the AngelEye affair, show u evidence if u want.. then u can decide what to do about

it cause imo its not a good subject to continue (i still care about the future).

ehh... what am i missing here?

....Did anyone say it was our final negotiating

position?

Geez!

Some1 else, not in dc, bg, or chaos pls: Is this rocket

science??

@Nitrox, Please tone down your comments, Cmdr.,

this situation is too volitile right now as it is. All Chaos: post with reason no flaming,

pls (i know, look whos talking, lol..).

U dont like my opinions, really u never did. Many

others dis-agree with me, here too.... Thats fine i dont attack them: Only when ppl tell

false stuff to try to make me look bad, to gain the upper hand in some damn FORUM

BATTLE!!

I never tried to discredit anyone deliberatly... knowing what i said wasnt

true.... Sry op if u dont like what i say but i dont retract any of it. U can deny what i

say point by point, thats ur right.

I never tried to "deny some1 their roleplay"....

It is a totally absurd concept lacking in any basis in reality:

Roleplay is not clan

war.... Roleplay goes by the board during clanwar.... Clanwar is about diplomacy, not role

play. Clans making decisions to attack another dont use role play as their guide, they

consider the political and diplomatic implications. What do they do say" Hmm, if we declare

war on that clan it will disrupt their role play" It is "play" as in play--not serius. Clan

war is serious sh*t.... Not "play". The implications and risks of clanwar makes treating it

like "play" a very serious mistake.

So once a clanwar is progress, there are no

role-play considerations; none at all... All types of clans go to war the same, no matter

what their peace-time role-play is... its just clan agianst clan... Unless some1 interferes

of course, which is not really about role play either, is it?

I dont deny dc

anything in my propsal for the battle event... I gave a starting position for barganing...

Something thats important for any successful negotiation: IS THAT NOT TRUE? .... I saved

some time by being direct and to the point, so everyone understands our position. The next

step is to get a reply back from them, and then counter.. I honestly dont get ur point here.

Someone pls inject some reality here!!

Oh u are a pip...

I

caught u red-handing lieing about who "she" was. ROFL.....

I have no respect for u.

Maybe i swear occaisonally

AT LEAST I DONT LIE AND TRY TO DISCREDIT PPL

!!!

Even if u didnt know (which i believe u did)... U are a fool then. U are willing

to slander me wherever and whenever u can...wavey, "the crusader for good".... What a joke u

are.

i wont tolerate ur damn lies any more!!

nitro... are u on yer meds or something?

We will not declare war, we havnt

decared war. Nothing u have changes that... Ihave said it dozen times.

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From earlier post (for those u dont

look 1 page back):

Server Destroyer, Hater, Warmongerer, Child Molester.... whats

next?

pSicek, I am not surprised u and other bg or dc think we should have just

retreated from Sig19 for those 4 days.... Why should u care if we were forced to retreat and

lose.... But oddly enough we care about it, lol. So from our point of view that idea is

completely without merit. But i appreciate your comments and can see why u made them.

@ALL

I dont care how many ppl come on here to say we are "warmongers".....

We were defending ourselves from an attack by dc, its that simple.

AND WHO IS TO SAY

THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE ANOTHER "1 WEEK" CONTRACT NEXT TIME, OR A "1 MONTH CONTRACT".. in

other words this a permanent alliance for all we know.. After all, OP admitted yesterday

that dragon wants to join the ASF (formal alliance with bg).

So in some ppl's

opinion a clan can just decide to attack another clan, and not expect any consequences?

Oh.... except for bg who decide to attack us for no real reason in Tohoku and then invade

Casius.... (we have screens of OP taunting us on SERVER WIDE CHAT that we have "Lost control

of Casius"... .....Taunting us, the neutral server admin; invading our system... But still

he refused to actually declare war. He was trying get us to however, by provoking us. lol he

seemed pissed when we ignored it. "There's beer in the fridge, enjoy".

There's no

disputing those facts ppl, everyone online saturday saw that...... several ppl screened it.

Only in this little weird world here is this a "bad" decision to declare war on

dc... Its just with only a few clans left here in CF (cause bg's attitude has run off

several...), ppl here dont see clanwar much so they dont understand that. So they somehow

equate clanwar with bombings, killings and real-world violence. Since they know im from

america, they somehow seem to equate me to George Bush, lol... I assure u i dont like the

guy either, AND NO ONE is actually injured in these wars, lol.

So here's some more

of the lies they have been spreading about me, and im getting damn sick of it:

1.

"That jib is trying to destroy the server with his wars."

All we want to do is

protect OURSELVES from being destroyed.. We remember the dirty crap from last time, yes...

and we know what to expect if we dare defy bg in anything, it seems. What BG_Wavey refuses

to show u or admit is the preceeding frame of the screens shots.... Where i promise to

defent ourselves against the bg's attacks... Like i have said many times to many ppl. So i

was telling him what would happen * IF * bg made war on us. So he twisted it out of context,

then says i am trying to destroy the whole server.... lol.

But never mind, he is

COMPLETELY discredited and exposed as a shill and a fake now because of the AngelEye thing,

see below.... hehehe

2. "Yeah jib is ruining the fun for us all"

How is

that, again? Unless u are a mercenary who attacks us, we wont ruin your day lol... There is

no reason for the average freelancer to worry. We taxed before the war, and we are too busy

to now, mostly, lol.... If u are bothered by the poisoned attitude in this forum, well i

will stop replying when ppl stop attacking me. I think when u consider the magnitude of the

attacks and lies, i have a right to respond to them.

3. "Hey that jib is abusing 14

year old girls."

..HEHEHEHE Now we have found out that the person AngeEye who

attacked me out of the blue is REALLY A MALE IN HIS 20's. R O F L ....... there to

deliberatly provoke me, Why would they say that, then?.... WHY WOULD THEY LIE ABOUT ME? By

the way.. The incident happened 1 day before the war started.. think about it !!!

4.

"That bad person jib is a hater"

I dont hate anyone on the server, even nitro for

all the dirty stuff he had pulled on me.... he threatened to BAN me last night again online,

still dunno the reason really (he was very upset...he really should take a break from this),

and not OP either. OP is very worthy opponent who "lives for this sh*t" and resorts to

tricks that i dont like... I disagree with his tactics, and i guess he doesnt like mine. But

i dont hate him never did even tho i suspect he would gladly c me in hell lately, lol. And

of course i respect his talents.

BTW: They tried to say all the same things about me

last time during the Chaos-bg war.... Anyone remember that? After the war ALL the personal

attacks stopped.... i was made Serverpolice, and listed on Lancer Reactor as being part of

the Mod Team... Although i am not a modder at all, Op was being generous by acknolodging the

other things i have done for the server. For awhile everything was rosey, lol.... until

Chaos started to grow in strength.

These forum wars get dirty and smelly...... I

expect some of that. But this AngelEye thing... Way over the line. Funny, tho actually. If

they could have said it was their grandmother in a wheel chair and get away with it, they

would have, lol. Well u got caught this time LOL.... i want ppl to start thinking about it:

Why would they do that?

In the last war OP told Chaos' allies to stay out of the

war, he threatened them over it, actually... Said he would ban anyone who helped us .. These

were ppl from the server (DC and Fangs), not intruders.... Now, he interferes against Chaos

in our war against dc..... And somehow we are the bad guys in this. That is the clear

double-standard from "bg-leader-and-admin" that we dont like, and have the right to complain

about.

And lastly, there was a tacit admittal yesterday by op that nitro on bg side

and whomever it was on the dc side didnt care if Chaos declared war on dc, that it was

factored into the plan for the contract - alliance in the sense that it was a possibility

that was looked at but ignored.... So they are as much as fault for the war as Chaos is.

U see the most important part of their plan is to discredit me personally, make me

look "out of control", a "hater", a "warmongerer"

... That way the facts are not

examined closely.

I think u ppl are smarter than that.

lol....

No matter

what u say u cant "force" me to declare war. Its really silly to try and proves my point

that u should stay our of this cause u arnt helping the situation any.

I've said

several times on this forum and in space (u arnt showing those screens i notice, lol) that

we wont declare war on bg.

OK Op we would also like to calm down the situation.

I

would suggest this:

1> That the dc-Chaos battle event be set quickly, Wolf or Shadow

should be able to get that done since the leader Dragon cant be on this week. I know theres

little u can do about that, hopefully we will hear from dc . As u know, the most important

part of negotiation is meeting both parties' core needs. This appears to be the only way to

do that.

2> That there be a cease-fire between Chaos and BG on the server. We won't

provoke anything, and DC can fight their own battles. After all, as long as the present

situation continues, dc has no incentive to stop the war, and neither do we.

3>

Dunno my head hurts.

Nitro: Pls stop posting ur meaningless screenies.... That

was a war warning... not declaring war... That must be done on the forum.. Remember u said

that in Sig19 at the very start of the war? "Where's it posted, Jib?" (i remember cause i

had to run offline and go post, lol).

But thank u for proving that u were trying to

provoke us to go to war... Now who is the warmonger?

3a > Maybe nitro shoud stay out

of this, its become too personal between us and i fear for his health (i actually do).

We never declared war against BG (...where did that come from o_O?).

Well

until u get a change in ur marching orders, i c the attacks continue, lol. See above post

that nitro doesnt want u to read for details.
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A:

"You are blue!"

B: "no, im red."

A: "No u are definately blue!"

B: "No,

im red."

A: "NO NO NO U ARE BLUE!"

B: "Heres a pic of me, see, i m

red"

A: ---

A: U are Round!!

B: "Eh.... no, look a the pic again...

see, i am square"

A: ---

A: U are Blue!

pSicek, I am not surprised u and other bg

or dc think we should have just retreated from Sig19 for those 4 days.... Why should u care

if we were forced to retreat and lose.... But oddly enough we care about it, lol. So from

our point of view that idea is completely without merit. But i appreciate your comments and

can see why u made them.

@ALL

I dont care how many ppl come on here to say we

are "warmongers"..... We were defending ourselves from an attack by dc, its that simple.

AND WHO IS TO SAY THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE ANOTHER "1 WEEK" CONTRACT NEXT TIME, OR A

"1 MONTH CONTRACT".. in other words this a permanent alliance for all we know.. After all,

OP admitted yesterday that dragon wants to join the ASF (formal alliance with bg).

So in some ppl's opinion a clan can just decide to attack another clan, and not

expect any consequences? Oh.... except for bg who decide to attack us for no real reason in

Tohoku and then invade Casius.... (we have screens of OP taunting us on SERVER WIDE CHAT

that we have "Lost control of Casius"... .....Taunting us, the neutral server admin;

invading our system... But still he refused to actually declare war. He was trying get us to

however, by provoking us. lol he seemed pissed when we ignored it. "There's beer in the

fridge, enjoy".

There's no disputing those facts ppl, everyone online saturday saw

that...... several ppl screened it.

Only in this little weird world here is this a

"bad" decision to declare war on dc... Its just with only a few clans left here in CF (cause

bg's attitude has run off several...), ppl here dont see clanwar much so they dont

understand that. So they somehow equate clanwar with bombings, killings and real-world

violence. Since they know im from america, they somehow seem to equate me to George Bush,

lol... I assure u i dont like the guy either, AND NO ONE is actually injured in these

wars, lol.

So here's some more of the lies they have been spreading about me, and im

getting damn sick of it:

1. "That jib is trying to destroy the server with his

wars."

All we want to do is protect OURSELVES from being destroyed.. We remember the

dirty crap from last time, yes... and we know what to expect if we dare defy bg in anything,

it seems. What BG_Wavey refuses to show u or admit is the preceeding frame of the screens

shots.... Where i promise to defent ourselves against the bg's attacks... Like i have said

many times to many ppl. So i was telling him what would happen * IF * bg made war on us. So

he twisted it out of context, then says i am trying to destroy the whole server.... lol.

But never mind, he is COMPLETELY discredited and exposed as a shill and a fake now

because of the AngelEye thing, see below.... hehehe

2. "Yeah jib is ruining the fun

for us all"

How is that, again? Unless u are a mercenary who attacks us, we wont ruin

your day lol... There is no reason for the average freelancer to worry. We taxed before

the war, and we are too busy to now, mostly, lol.... If u are bothered by the poisoned

attitude in this forum, well i will stop replying when ppl stop attacking me. I think when u

consider the magnitude of the attacks and lies, i have a right to respond to them.

3. "Hey that jib is abusing 14 year old girls."

..HEHEHEHE Now we have found

out that the person AngeEye who attacked me out of the blue is REALLY A MALE IN HIS

20's. [SIZE=3]R O F L[/SIZE] ....... there to deliberatly

provoke me, Why would they say that, then?.... WHY WOULD THEY LIE ABOUT ME? By the way..

The incident happened 1 day before the war started.. think about it !!!

4. "That

bad person jib is a hater"

I dont hate anyone on the server, even nitro for all the

dirty stuff he had pulled on me.... he threatened to BAN me last night again online, still

dunno the reason really (he was very upset...he really should take a break from this), and

not OP either. OP is very worthy opponent who "lives for this sh*t" and resorts to tricks

that i dont like... I disagree with his tactics, and i guess he doesnt like mine. But i dont

hate him never did even tho i suspect he would gladly c me in hell lately, lol. And of

course i respect his talents.

BTW: They tried to say all the same things about me

last time during the Chaos-bg war.... Anyone remember that? After the war ALL the personal

attacks stopped.... i was made Serverpolice, and listed on Lancer Reactor as being part of

the Mod Team... Although i am not a modder at all, Op was being generous by acknolodging the

other things i have done for the server. For awhile everything was rosey, lol.... until

Chaos started to grow in strength.

These forum wars get dirty and smelly...... I

expect some of that. But this AngelEye thing... Way over the line. Funny, tho actually. If

they could have said it was their grandmother in a wheel chair and get away with it, they

would have, lol. Well u got caught this time LOL.... i want ppl to start thinking about it:

Why would they do that?

In the last war OP told Chaos' allies to stay out of the

war, he threatened them over it, actually... Said he would ban anyone who helped us ..

These were ppl from the server (DC and Fangs), not intruders.... Now, he interferes against

Chaos in our war against dc..... And somehow we are the bad guys in this. That is the clear

double-standard from "bg-leader-and-admin" that we dont like, and have the right to complain

about.

And lastly, there was a tacit admittal yesterday by op that nitro on bg side

and whomever it was on the dc side didnt care if Chaos declared war on dc, that it was

factored into the plan for the contract - alliance in the sense that it was a possibility

that was looked at but ignored.... So they are as much as fault for the war as Chaos is.

U see the most important part of their plan is to discredit me personally, make me

look "out of control", a "hater", a "warmongerer"

[SIZE=3]... That way the facts are

not examined closely. [/SIZE]

I think u ppl are smarter than that.

Yeah PiA guys, sry if the recent unpleasantness has

made things a little hot for u too.

I understand some of ur ppl were threatened by

some dc recently for helping Chaos, the dc ppl there said they would declare war on u if u

continued to help Chaos.....

hmmm.... theres a little double standard for

u.

There there's the bg, who are now on a "Quest To Destroy Piracy" or some crap all

of a sudden lol... Well, like i said to op "no ones more pure than a reformed hooker" lol.

So things are gonna be harder on u because we dared to defy them.... sry about that, bud.

Maybe u should say u are a mercenary clan, then u can do whatever u like in the

bg's eyes..... cause u have a contract, that makes it ok.

When u do claim to be a

merc clan, maybe then i will contract u guys to kill all BG trains u can find, with a bonus

of 10 mil for each frag, lol. Dont worry, bg cant touch u for it later, cause u are "on a

mission".

psicek@ Actually only in this weird little op-universe would ppl think it weird that a clan

decares war on another for attacking them... Still it doesnt explain why bg decided to attk

us over it (it was none of their business), without declaring war.