Posts by Jib

The above is not true op, and u know it.... very

little of to has anything to do with the truth. We pwned dc so bad yesterday... u felt like

u had to intervene or lose face urself. But then that didnt go so well , either.

For

as long as i have been on this server, bg has only done one thing... chase noobs out of

their system.. or go after ppl pirating trains (but only if they feel like it, tho..)?

Except to delare war on chaos once before of course.... for no good reason then either. That

war almost destroyed the whole server. At that time, our deciding to stop fighting was the

only thing that stopped a much worse situation from occuring. Then they bragged about

beating us... Its amazing how some ppl will use other's sense of responsibility against

them.

Remember the 4 guys from Russia a month ago? Bg wouldnt do anything about

them.....They would half-heartedly fight them now and then.. for fun.. but when they wanted

to trade or felt like doing other things, or if they were out in Sol and too hard to chase,

oh well let them alone, ROFL.. Where were u then op and nitro?? What a sham ur "declaration"

and "RP" crap is.

Why, of all times, did they decide to attack Chaos while we are in

a lawful war with dc... butting into our fights, changing the balanced sides (....AS OP

SAID ABOVE!!) ..?

Why?

1. To "teach Chaos a lesson"... to prove bg is still

the king of the hill.. ur egos wont let u do any other thing, yet to nakedly declare war

makes u look bad.

2. To insure their new ally isnt humilaited (more than they are),

which they would be by now completley except for the underhanded intervention by op's bg .

Yeah, op... the server admin who also runs the bg clan.

3. its quite obvious this has

nothing to do with role play, and never did... its about us refusing to cowtow to them...

They had a plan to weaken us, ruin our morale, by hiring the entire dc clan to fight against

us in sig 19 forcing us out when they couldnt do that themselves.... We stopped that plan

and delcared war on dc , the betrayers of trust and allies of our enemies, as our way to

insure our own survival agianst the dirty plan... As we had every right to do. But the bg

command's bloody-minded arrogance cant take ANY one defying them... so this is the

result.

Well.... u wont defeat us, u wont force us to your will, u can resort to all

ur dirty admin tricks that u used last time.... but it wont prove that bg is still

"superior", it only show u are fearful of a ANYONE who opposes u possibly gaining

strength.

With bg's help (and only because of bg's interference), the war will drag

on... because we wont give in, and dc eventually will... Its a shame really, they could have

survived this relitively intact. But now... it will hurt them even more. All because bg

command hates the idea of Chaos winning a legitimate war... And bg wont declare war on

chaos either.. they just attack us when ever they feel like it, today in X, for example.

When i said something to Nitro about that, he said basically "so"? Which goes to show this

this is NOT about role play, but about showing us "who's boss".... lol.

Pathetic,

really. their brittle egos cant take any competition. Well. it will go on now..... and on,

and on, and on. Because u cant use strength to force free-willed ppl to bend to ur will.

Damn i went edit my post to change the battle times from

10 hours to 13.5 hours that Vlad reminded me of... But nitro had already played his litte

quoting game already, lol.

I also wanted to add that I have never been so proud of my

Clan or the great ppl i fly with, as i was yesterday.... U ROCKED, M8's!

If it

takes another 15 or 20 hours to get it done again today.... u know we will. That's what

bothers the hell outta u, lol.

Well i just wanted any bg or dc ppl who were not

around yesterday to know what really happened in Tohoku yesterday... Cause if u read bg

propaganda i suspect u will get a much different story...

Dc had a very rough go of

it, we dont wish to brag at other's misfortunes, but it wasnt pretty. Oh well, no surprise.

But to be clear about it: Chaos fought them off the server.

But what happened next

is quite interesting: Op came online and led 5 bg to Tohoku to attack Chaos.. A clearly

unprovoked attack agianst another serverclan. He also sent ppl into our system, Casius, and

then made server-wide messages taunting us about it "Chaos have lost control of Casius" i

believe was the terminology, lol.... Clearly trying to taunt and provoke us. I asked i he

had decalred war on Chaos, and he said no, he was just helping dc.... hmm.

So he has

decided the bg will help dc in the clanwar between them and Chaos..... Why , i

wonder?

Well i want the bg who were not there to know: We beat the 5 bg off the

server as well... mainly by outlasting them, but also by killing them regularly at a rate at

least as good as our own. So it was not "easy" as op is probably telling u..... Althought

the bg fought bravely and well as usual, to op's surprise and great agitation, we did a

little better. So at the end of the long, long day (10 hours of fights)... the BG went home

too and Tohoku remained in our hands (then there was a server upgrade period).

Oh btw

during the 3 hours that bg attacked us in Tohoku, no dc were to be seen on the server... I

can only wonder what the bg guys fighting there thought about that So if Dragon or other dc

think this will solve their Chaos problem.... they are wrong.

As a matter of fact,

the terms for your surrender have just gone up.... We now demand the 350 mil (same amount bg

were paying u... to cover our expenses and teach u a lesson in clan diplomacy). Plus your

agreeing to the other GENEROUS AND FAIR compromise we offered earlier of no more than 2 dc

helping bg against Chaos at any one time under merc contract.

Op

said:
________________________________________

we didnt vote for war and ive never

said this
if there would have been a vote for a war you already would know about that

coz we already would have burned this word "war" into ur shiphull

_______________________________________

Ohh shiver me timbers, mateys. As Don

would say, lol...
Well in that case i would just get a new ship and we would keep

fighting.... But i do recall a conversatation on MSN regarding the BG rank-and-files, where

u said they voted on this matter and were ready to fight.

Regarding this other

person (not u OP, u were away):

I am careful who i call a liar and i wont stand for

bullsh*t like that. Ppl take stuff out of context, twist it, and then call me names. I would

think u [op] would not be pleased to see this particular eposode continue. So it would be

wiser not to threaten me, cause i have no more patience in this matter.

Regarding

Bans:

Well those guys were wrong to think some Chaos were banned last nite (must have

been a server reset prob im guessing).

Edit> nm

ROFL... OP secret weapon.. He sent Tommy! lol

oookees. we will have some fun then dragon.

Whee!

OK dragon, lets

have some fun then....
Hope u are stil relieved and cheerful tomorrow, lol.

btw:

He has been in Chaos less than 24 hours... and we have 2 of your ex guys fighting for us

(and doing dam well too).

ROFL what joke u ppl are... u couldnt get ur way having the dc fight

with u cause we spoiled your plan so u are attacking us anyway , as was your plan all

along....

There is no reason for bg to enter the conflict between dc and Chaos except

to try and destroy us.... like they planned all along to. Weak... We will fight anyone who

attacks us, trys to steal our rights, and who insists that they are the only "good" clan on

the server.

We have every right to declare war on dc..... why not? Please give a good

reason why we dont have the right to, anyone?

Is that the best u got?

U did take it out of context......

Because the preceding frames would have shown exactly what i already said in the

above posts, what i have been saying all along... That we will defend our clan against ANY

attacks.... All the things i have been saying over the last 2 weeks... and that if ppl think

they can cower us, and use my sense of moral obligation against me in order to get their

way.... they are wrong. Because i did do that once and ended up paying for it. And that to

some important ppl here, defeating the bg would be the same as destroying them.

U are

now proven by your own screen screen shots to be a liar about me saying i would destroy the

server..... Your half-assed apology was just another excuse to attack me again.... So stop

attacking me.

Because if u continue in your attacks after making your point, then

ppl will have to wonder if u are a pawn, told what to say next by others.... a shill; a

stooge... which of course u are.

If anyone still doubts my true motives, if i am

just trying to protect my clan or not.... do a search of my posts and start reading

backwards.

EDIT: Yeah wait until i post then throw up another screenie... lol... well

that changes nothing.

post them then..or shut up.

U amaze me

dragon. WhyTF should i need to provide u with any proof of betrayal.... Your actions are all

i need. And what ever chats converstations i had with your officers were not recorded, why

should i? At the time there was no need not to trust them.

Interesting comment about

op stopping our war so we both lose.... Has he offered to help u out of this mess or

something? If u look at SWAT_OPR8R's Profile on this forum, below his Avatar there is one

word: "GOD" (its true, go look, lol...).

But even the Greek, Roman, or Norse gods

didnt stop the wars of man.... they enjoyed watching them too much, lol. U are banking on

your friendship with OP to save u, i guess. Good luck with that.

The reality is that

u got urself into this mess and u will have to figure a way out, or some1 else in your clan

will do it for u.

Your other bg-buddy Nitro wasnt hurt too badly by all of this,

tho.... was he? oh the original plan got snafu'ed but there are plenty more plans.... too

bad ur clan got left holding the bag....

Here's an interesting scenario for u: what

if that was part of the plan afterall? Bg gets a few more days to gather wayward members and

prepare while we fight u... Public opinion forum blitz makes it look like i am a crazed

hitler-wannabe, lol... and no matter how Chaos reacted to your attack, it goes ok for them.

Once we fought a clanwar, there would be zero chance of Chaos allying with dc or hiring u

against them. A win-win for them, eh?... clever.

But either way, or anyway.... we

will force u to surrender. The sooner u do it, the less damage ur clan will have to its

morale = players staying = future.

You twist my words and take

them out of context, and then accuse me of something else in the same sentance...

YES i will defend my clan and defeat dc, bg, or anyone else here when and if

required to protect the existance of Chaos (... i say not "DESTROY", but "DEFEAT" ) !!

In your opinion if we in Chaos vow to protect our rights... then we are asking,

begging, for war..... Every time i have ever said something about war it has been in the

context of protecting Chaos Clan from being humilated and destroyed! Shame on me for

defending myself and the Clan, for refusing to be shoved around arrogantly by ppl who would

gladly see us dead.

It's called Brinksmanship: And it is used to insure ppl dont

make the same kind of mistake that dragon made yesterday. If i had known he was going to do

this... I would have made sure he knew what would happen as a result... Then u could have

called me a war monger for that too, lol.... But the reality is that the war with dc then

wouldnt have happened at all.

In my own defense, i was fighting 4 hours straight

when the dc deal went down... and u cant be a soldier in a war zone and a diplomat at the

table simultaniously. But to be honest about it i am a little disappointed with myself for

not seeing it coming sooner... and for believing the dc's senior and middle-rank officers'

when they said :"Dont worry, DC and Chaos will still always be allies"

... Because if

i had seen it coming, it could have been stopped real quick with a few words that sounded

like threats... but were actually the promises that stop wars from happening. Well, too late

now. But its not too late for others to understand we have the resolve of hardened battle

steel.

Its not my fault if u equate the defeat of the bg with it's destruction....

or the server's destruction. i can guess where u get that way of thinking from, tho...

cause i have heard it said before. But that doesnt have to be the automatic result if bg

loses a clanwar... so i refuse to let ppl try and put that our heads.

On one hand u

apologize, on the other u still talk shit about me....

Seems to me what we got is a situation simular to Tennis. How

they solve the tournement problem (so everyone doesnt have to fight everyone else) is to use

the "Seeding" system of rating players, allowing standard "pyramid" style elimination

rounds. And what the seeds do is to match higher-level players with lesser ones.... so the

semi-finals and final matchs are usually the 4 or 2 best ppl (so the two top "seeds" dont

have their fight in some earlier preliminary round).

But that would require some

preliminary fights to determine "seeds", but at least they dont have to be on the same day

(and could happen at different times .

Dragon: U arnt listening. U dont have a

contract now, cause there's no reason for one. U and nitro thought u could determine the

outcome of our battle with bg and dictate terms to us.. but we decided not to play along

with your little plan. Now we will be the ones dictating terms to u. Expect to fight us

anywhere, at any time. This a clanwar between your clan and ours, and it ends in your

defeat... If that happens to be sunday at 23:59, so be it.

Theres no real reason for

it to hurt the server... Just ur clan. And in the end, there is no one to blame for that but

u.

Nitro Dont bring your hatred of the U.S. into this thing... man deep down i knew

that the thread about US vs Europe politics would be a bad idea.... cause some ppl just cant

make the leap between free exchange of ideas and opinions, and not holding personal grudges.

If ppl are wondering what im talking about , look at the "Altair" thread from 2

weeks ago (oh...the same time all the problems started....).

And its not like i

really am complaining about dc ... I was just defending our position againt all u ppl

getting out the torches and pitchforks.... So i yes dc had a right to do what they did. JUST

LIKE WE have a perfectly good right to declare war over it. "Finito", as op says, lol. Deal

with it.

Corp: Plenty of flaming and taunting going on both sides in a war. What

do ppl expect? And there were at least as many bg dieing yesterday as Chaos were.. and some

bg's tempers flared cause of that. But although u may have a point about us being like

"corsairs", dont forget Omega 5.. All they ever do is fight there, lol.. So even in the lame

RP parallels that ppl insist on making, we have a precedent, lol.

@ kristof: U

missed the point altogether. We dont care if we are not your little ideal of what Pirates

should be, and we dont give damn if u like it or not.

Geez, it amazing how many ppl want to

tell us what we should "be" and exactly what our role is... Sry but our role is what WE make

it, not some1 else's ideal of what a "pirate" should be. Maybe if it made ppl feel better

(and not call us "thieves" lol) we should change our decription to _____ (... just a blank,

u fill it in urself). But that would make some ppl uncomfortable, cause they couldnt

pidgeon-hole us or judge us for not meeting their expectations.

Listen: We dont

expect all of u to agree with what we do, and truth is we dont care if u do. Because we cant

trust u to have our interests at heart, only we have that. And we will do what we need to do

to survive.

I shouldnt even have to say this..... but the verbal

diahyyria from some ppl around here is so disgustingly shitty i cannot believe it.

If

some1 one says i want to destroy the server one more time... i will see that actions are

taken against them. They will stop slandering me one way or the other. i wont put up with

ppl who have no responsbilties, no serious stake, and no fucing sense dising me publicly

like some poisonous gadfly.

I beat him in space, every time. i beat him in the forums

with reasoned posts.... so now he LIES and slanders me. This will stop.

Lemme ask u

all this, are not those posts what's really damaging to the server?

1. BG is the

largest and most powerful clan, Grinder reminded wavy of that online and still he

persists... pathetic really and just another example of his "personal problem" with

me.

2. Just because a clan decides to call themselves "mercs" doesnt mean they can do

whatever dirty things they feel like doing to others, without expecting retribution.... To

pretend otherwise is just absurd and ridiculous.

EDIT: Nitro: Call me childish

because we dont want to fight the 2 biggest clans at once, and because a trust was betrayed.

Call me whatever u wish, but ppl will wonder why this happend, why its happening now at this

juncture, and why the bg needed to hire dc in the first place.......

U WILL STOP YOUR FUCING SLANDER OF ME, OR I WILL SEE

U ARE BANNED FROM HERE.

Edit: bg or swat command, u had better put a muzzle on wavy i

will not allow him to slander me. here's a guy who obviously has a personal animosity for

me, and it shows.... Because he thinks i humiliated him online seemingly.

This was

my second call for him to stop slandering me... it will not be tolerated and im talking

real-world here.

The biggest clan

on the server hires the second largest clan on the server to help them fight the third

largest...

Here's what happening here: Earlier this week dragon pulled out of CSF in

anticipation of fighting us... Soon after the war zone in Sig 19 was declared,

actually.

Earlier today some DC asked all of u fighting in system chat if we wanted

to hire them. Well eventually bg clan did hire one or two of them to help in their

battles.

Later, 6 DC show up saying they were hired by bg for 4 days, the whole clan,

the whole weekend and until Monday, to fight Chaos.

At that point, i realized what

the plan was and that we in Chaos, who have been good allies and m8's of DC, were betrayed

in a deliberate plan to see us crushed.

Because if they really are neutral mercs,

they would not try to change the balance of power so completely, not make the odds so high

in bg's favor.. not make it a all-verses Chaos war.

Well. Mercs have a right to make

contracts. they should also expect ppl not to like it if they attk them, that is also Role

Play. They cant expect us to sit back and let them betray our trust, our friendship, and

change the balance of power so completley. So they should not be surprised that now they

have a war they cant win on their hands.

They should have used the earlier model, a

few ppl helping BG (who WERE NOT OUTNUMBERED) now and then, not a mob of them against us

long-term.... I suggested that, publicly, as a compromise. They refused. It then became

clear to me what was going on, and what was needed.

That refusal to compromise was a

big mistake... but what it really did was show their hand and expose their true

motives.

We are not war mongers, for 5 months we have not had a war, we did not

declare the last one if ppl will remember..... we did not have a server-wide war with bg we

localized it to maximize the RP aspects, and minimize any possible damage to the

server.

I wonder what others would do in this situation....? I do know that we in

Chaos have the will and the balls to do whats needed.

To

busy to elaborate now but ALL HEAR THIS:

The War Zone in Sig 19 is hereby

revoked.

Chaos Clan was betrayed by DC clan who allied with BG to try and destroy

us... WELL THEIR PLAN DIDNT WORK.

AS OF NOW CHAOS IS AT WAR WITH DC CLAN. we are not

at war with bg clan, there is no zone in Sig19, I declared it , and i now undeclare

it.

DC WILL PAY for their betrayal. The only thing i want to hear from those ppl is

their terms for surrender.