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Originally posted by Cartman
Ok, to adress some minor confusion,

The Junkers, ATM are acting asliberty-rouge type pirates of the Sol run. We are RPing dishonest, ruthless pirates, with annoying senses of humor.

To let you all know, the junkers do not always do this, we form into the server's climate as we see fit, and this is where we saw an opening.

On our last server, we were not at all like this, we were
a large group that attacked and occupied omicron gamma, taking it from a large and notorious clan on HA5.

We wont always be pirates, we will become something else entierly if it is nessecary

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Originally posted by StingRay

If you don't pay the tax then you can expect to be shot.

Getting shot when you don't pay tax, ok, but remember that you should refrain from dockrapes.

Dockraping is engaging a human player when he has just left a station/base/gate/hole and not have gained control of his ship yet. In such a situation you can get the shield down and hull damaged before the player can react. (DK's are good dockrapers, even with a maxed out fighter you can find yourself being blown to pieces before even starting up your thrusters).

This is a rule every player has to obtain, no matter the role you play.

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im gonna take a wild guess at what he's calling a dockrape

Dockrape is defined as attacking a player within 6 seconds of their launching from a base/jumping in system (unless they open fire on you first) - which as said above indicates that the player has control over their ship.

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Either, its because i always pirate in the same spot, usually without moving,

Sitting in the same spot for hours waiting for your prey is called a) boring, b) camping, c) planning ahead, and d) laying a trap

or e) Broke down and waiting for the arrival of a repair ship

dockraping = getting killed within 6sec after leaving station

jumpgates or jumpholes dont count coz you always could take another way or fly around before you pass the gate/hole

Nitro I assumed teh_crow misused the term dockrape when he said it happend in Dublin. There is no place to dock a train in dublin. Shooting a fleeing play trying to dock with a station, gate or hole has always been acceptable.

burro There may not be an official, bannable, rule against invading clan systems, but we have all agreed that this is a rule and is not to be done as it will lead to chaos. I'm sure the leadership of CFPD don't want there members challenging players to invade Tarsus.

The reason I posted the reply was the two statements made it seem that teh_crow was complaining about the RP that we all play, and inviting ppl to break the rules.

I was just suggesting he discuss this with his leaders so that they could explain it better.

sure, i have a limited idea of the term RP and dock rape, dock rape was cleared up by op, yes i indeed understand this term, junkers oak, always uses his cruiser to block the jumpgate in dublin to hyperion, so when i came through the leeds jumphole, i was assuming that would be the safest, u know not coming through the nl jg/jh, when i came through the leeds jh, b4 my screen returned to me i was at 5% hull, of course i ran, he's in a cruiser....

secondly, the asking of them to invade tarsus... well im yet to actually meet a junker, whom can pvp well, i took out ldogs battleship in my fighter... so needless to say they can't fight pvp... well

i feel it necessary to add this post to clarify my situation.... i dont have a problem with pirates, or rp, or anything else u guys do, but when im trding in rhineland, and u come all the way from dublin to camp me, or when im doing sol run, u change chars and sneek about making it look like ur not gonna come to where i am to attack me, it starts to feel more personal then just u doing ur rp....

i have been chased across 5 systems b4, chased from char to char, i have been dockraped coming out of planet NB, dockraped coming out of planet LA, yes it feels a bit of a personal attack, well i have uber $$$, and uber ships, so i invite the pirates to a few friendly pvp's in arena.... oh nvm i know u wont come to arena

but like i said, im not trying to complain or w/e, its just i seem to be getting targeted more than anyone else, chased, tracked down, most of the time when and if i trade, getting a new route just isnt an option, hell ive even bought an apc to do some small runs, and i even get attacked then ruthlessly, they dont even ask for tax anymore they just shoot. guess they've given up on me actualy paying them, and as i was told already if a cfpd pays tax, he gets kicked so ok now im asking for advice, how should i trade... get a new untaged char? which i will be banned for??

i know im the new cfpd, and therfore dont know how to handle multiple constant attacks, and im pretty much the only way ppl can hurt a cfpd, cause the pirates know if they try doing this to another cfpd they will get rolled so bad, dun worry, im getting much better, better than 130 pvp's in 4 days, i will get better, much better, so yea, im a newb now, but lol will u die many many many times when im not

i would suggest leaving a fully equipped fighter in dublin
and then doing a run in you train if as you say you have
lots of money sacrifice a cargo and as soon as you are killed switch chars to fighter and then kill the cruiser
head straight for NL wher he will respawn and kill him again dont let up the pressure and keep killing him, (I realise that camping and F1 ambushes are not considered by all as fair and good RP but its my belife if a cruiser can F1 ambush a train then a fair response is a fighter F1 ambushing a cruiser in fact the cruiser has much more chance against a fighter than a train against a cruiser)

then tell him every time you bother my train i will kill you 10 times

stick to it and soon you will be to much hassle to bother

or you could just enjoy the RP and try to avoid contact with pirates at all when u are in your train as most of us do

but it deos seem you are a favorite target of the junkers
so i would do a bit af harsh enforcement with them and send out the message you are not to e targetted or there will be consequences

If you want to trade, get someone to help you. If you are in a clan, ask a clanmember for help. When you pay him 20% of the profit, and the clan bank 30%, then I don't think that people from your clan would be reluctant to help you.

thx m8's ill try, and flyin muhahah, ima do it haha

Teh_crow is referring more specifically to one certain {LP} , who is questionable anyway, who sits outside the Planet LA and taxes traders, docking AND undocking and if these players do not pay, he kills their train.

Well to make it worse, he taxes them EACH time they undock and in a few cases, MULTIPLE times to a SINGLE player.

So I personally took an interest in this {LP}, he now logs off or changes ships to stay about 8 systems distance from me......I think I made my point.

Cartman it is still a good idea. We need Pirates, it makes the game fun and all of the bravado is also part of the fun.

Besides, I havent had the time to kill you yet. LOL