I can only assume no Chaos leadership were at this
meeting?..... We were available all weekend. Who were the 4 chaos that attended,
pls?
1) In topic 1 u said:
"The server and the SWAT-Portal was down because
of the shit members of this community did and tried to do. "
I can only assume u mean
some of us Chaos, lol.... Well that is not very conductive to discussion. NM. We agree that
the level of discussion should be kept calm and not personal.
2) About fakes... I
dont think there are any fakes in Chaos, unless there is a bg spy or plant there.... Some1
who also agrees with the bg position as well and who just started in the clan last week
perhaps.... but i dunno that for sure yet since we have had no contact.. But either way
these ppl certainly dont speak for us....
Now do some of the ppl still in Chaos
have other-named chars (i still keep one called Jib which has the record for most explored
systems and jump holes...)? So its possible but they havnt been seen in space since the dc
war started. I think the "new" rule that clan members have no untagged chars caught
everyone (including dc) except bg by surprise.... since bg were the only ones to have that
as a clan rule.
4) The role of trowa in all this is unclear. Who was he working for
at what particular time, what are his motives? I can tell u that he was also the person
pretending to be AngelEyes, so maybe he deserved a good cussing out for being a liar and a
provocateur....
Don Z is op's problem to solve and has nothing to do with us: A bg
who refuses to accept current leadership's dictates. But he is not "in league with Chaos to
destroy bg" and i believe he is not playing online (and hasnt since he left months ago).
But we do have a large amount of respect for him; as do many ppl still in bg.
5) To
understand the transcript and why it was given to op, u must understand Chaos' role in
this.... which seems difficult for some. We are protecting our interests. We are not out to
destroy anything but when attacked we will fight for victory, which mean defeat for the
other side.
7) No one should be surprised that dc were hired earlier by bg to fight
us, one or 2 at a time... It was mentioned earlier, and remember that was our compromise
position that dc wasnt interested in even discussing..... But no PiA were hired by Chaos
command.... I believe they offered their services for free to help once, tho.... Until they
were threatened by dc to leave or face clan war with them (ironic, huh?). We don't want
other clans to be caught up in the "punishment" game thats being played here against
us.
8 ) A supposed Screen Shot from the Chaos forum?? Interesting subject. Well..
perhaps if i knew spys were copying our stuff i would have said the word "conflict" instead
of "war"..... Because everyone on the server knew that bg were attacking Chaos.
But
for the 20th time: It doesnt matter anyway because a clan has to declare war on one another
either on the forums (as Nitro insisted that i must to do when we declared on dc ....), or
by saying it clearly in space. Threats and ultimatums dont count, declare war yourself it
thats what u want.
Chaos never declared war, still hasnt, still wont. Ppl trying to
claim that just cannot do it..... because it never happened.
The Chaos forum was
destroyed yesterday by malicious attack..... Luckily we finished moving to a new more
secure location 2 days before that happened.... Lol, ive been reading "The Art of War" and
it gave me hunch something like that would happen. We are not accusing anyone in particular
of this dirty event. But know that it did happen, thats a truth.
9) To stop the
flaming and personal attacks is a good idea. To stop other ppl from dissenting on your views
is another. The idea that this is all Chaos' fault is just plain wrong..... And we wont be
a scape-goat. Nor will we stop commenting on issues that are important to us.
12)
Again the idea this is all our fault, lol....... Well thats just absurd and if ppl think
they must be cowed into saying that, just so the server can stay up... Dont worry. Op has
lots of reasons for keeping the server up and making neutral freelancers happy is not at the
top of his list.... Think about it. And think about the absurdity of blaming the shut down
and possible permanent shut down on me and Chaos.... Is it more likely this is being used as
a ploy to unite ppl against us? Right before a major war erupts (if bg declares war cause we
wont)?
13) About my personal Serverpolice rights.... I probably wont be paying op for
a system anymore (why would i ever donate or pay him another dime after this treatment?).
So my right to be SP could expire at the end of the month anyway, as would our lease on
Casius. If it happens at least i can get rid of the char and use it for another fighter,
lol.
Conclusion:
It is clear this whole thing about the shut-down went pretty
much as we expected it to go. Although i did expect to see a formal declaration of war from
bg at the same time as the return... But it appears they think they can just go on with
their undeclared war on us... trying to look cool while doing it, making us look like the
war mongers.... When in reality they are trying to stop their ally from losing a war and
stop us from winning one, but without actually declaring war themselves..... Well, all the
"warmaonger" personal attacks didnt work last week and i doubt they will work now.
Its important for ppl to understand that we are defending our rights and our honor
as a Clan... from ppl who would push us around and say: "If u dont like it just leave"...
Well maybe we will leave eventually (since we are no longer welcome here), But no one runs
us off..... That u can bank on that. We can be banned, sure.... But we wont me muzzled and
we wont back down and you cant get rid of us by using propaganda.
