Sig 19 Declared War Zone

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  • So from the 3 choices i had above your answer


    appears to be the last #3 , the "didnt care" scenario, meaning


    "They may declare war


    if they like, let'em, they cant hurt us and its good practice for dc".


    Sure...


    actually this attitude i can understand and appreciate.... But then why the all-out


    war-monger anti-jib media blitz and the bg attacks in space on us.....


    U really cant


    have it both ways and still be the "good guys" in all this u know... i mean ppl will notice


    (ah, see #3 again lol). So this war was pushed a little from the other side too........ Isnt


    that fair to say?


    Well since this is becoming utterly absurd, i suggest bg just


    retire to their corner in this professional wrestling tag-team match, and let dc and Chaos


    duke it out. Nothing good will come from continuing on the way it is, and i dont mean that


    as a threat just common sense.

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    Originally posted by Vlad



    That all you say nitro? ?(


    Jib is no longer a valid partner in


    conversation.
    Like he said himself in the systemchannel of Sigma 19 a week/two weeks ago:


    He is not gonna talk to me anymore.


    Fine, if he wants to act as juvenile as he is


    doing at this moment (for the record: this is not only my own observation, or the


    observation of just the BG, it goes way beyond that), then he will be treated in that way,


    turning him into a non-party to deal with.


    I don't care what Jib tries to uncover or


    drag from beneath rocks that don't exist, I stopped caring about the things he said about


    me, the clan, the server, since I see him as nothing more than a seven year old boy in a zoo


    who's lolli pop just have been snatched away by a 6 year old girl, left him crying for his


    mom.

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  • lol
    nitro is the...
    "nothing more than a seven year old


    boy in a zoo who's lolli pop just have been snatched away by a 6 year old girl, left him


    crying for his mom"


    ahem! exquse that off topic remark, but check this out...
    its


    depressing, so dont read if u dont wanna feel depressed and unsafe...


    he was not


    even willing to defend his own system today... outnumbered or not! not even willing to


    defend!!! that is just cowardly, we were really dissappointed in him that he didnt even


    show some blood...


    it honestly made me sad that he would do that to his own clan :(


    couldnt believe the police, law enforcement at its best, didnt even wanna defend the donut


    shop... or might i say the whiskey bar ;)

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    But in all reality here... No one considered that our likely move in response was


    war with dc? Really, thats hard to believe.


    I think no one thought someone could


    be stupid enough to declare war over one contract over and 8k radius around Havaii. It's my


    opinion too (like OP said) that you could just leave Havaii alone till sunday time 23:59 and


    than you could hire DC yourself. But you chose your own childish scenario. I can understand


    that you think that DC backstabbed you. But it looks like that you didn't even concern


    about their RP role in this game. You only wanted to see the knife in your back which


    wasn't there.
    I know most [Chaos] don't like OP and i'm sure that's the reason


    because you all wanted this war to happen. [Chaos] knows that BG won't declare war on them


    for no reason and that's how [Chaos] provokes it.





    I know Nitro and I know he has his reasons for this actions. As far as


    i'm concerned, I wont fight any [Chaos] as long as they act like kids. I will just ignore


    them until they become reasonable. And until now I only saw bloodthirsty n0x and mad [Chaos]


    and that's not the behavior we want in this community.


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    this whole community


    is going to hell, foreign and civil war everywhere.


    I totaly agree with you over


    this one. So sad this is happening over a luxury liner ;(


    P.S.: But all of that is


    just my opinion.




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  • Too bad i didn't wanted to play with your game, is it?
    1 on 1, or


    2 vs 1, fine with me. But 3 vs 1? Are you that desperate?

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  • psicek@ Actually only in this weird little op-universe would ppl think it weird that a clan


    decares war on another for attacking them... Still it doesnt explain why bg decided to attk


    us over it (it was none of their business), without declaring war.

  • Jib, I personally wouldn't declare war because of 4 days and over 8k radius. That was the


    contract if i remember correctly. In your place I would make "eye for an eye". I would stay


    away from Hawaii for those 4 days and between that i'd make a contract with DC. So they


    would attack BG after their contract expires. It would be a great turnover. You could do


    lot's of damage (RP thinking) to BG if you would played your cards well.


    Example in


    those 4 days i'd make a contract with DC that would start at Sunday 00:00 hours and just


    before that time i'd attack with full force the Hawaii liner. Hopefully the DC would be


    outnumbered and the BG would came to help. At 00:00h the DC would suprisely change sides


    because of their contract and there would be bad times for BG [10] and there wouldn't be


    any war now on the CF server. But that would be just mine little plan [9] . But of course


    you're not me and you handled the thing different with more distructive tactics for the


    server itself.


    About B G attacking [Chaos]. i wan't online much, so I don't kow


    what they were talking about. I also didn't have my FL ID at home, so I was in a non-BG


    char and stayed neutral with this whole thing. But my opinion about BG helping DC is this:


    BG helps the clan they paid for defending Hawaii Liner, because the [Chaos] war declaration


    to DC just wasn't right and it's BG's RP role to protect the inocent.


    I hope I


    didn't get you all confused with my blabering :D




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  • pSicek, I am not surprised u and other bg


    or dc think we should have just retreated from Sig19 for those 4 days.... Why should u care


    if we were forced to retreat and lose.... But oddly enough we care about it, lol. So from


    our point of view that idea is completely without merit. But i appreciate your comments and


    can see why u made them.


    @ALL


    I dont care how many ppl come on here to say we


    are "warmongers"..... We were defending ourselves from an attack by dc, its that simple.




    AND WHO IS TO SAY THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE ANOTHER "1 WEEK" CONTRACT NEXT TIME, OR A


    "1 MONTH CONTRACT".. in other words this a permanent alliance for all we know.. After all,


    OP admitted yesterday that dragon wants to join the ASF (formal alliance with bg).




    So in some ppl's opinion a clan can just decide to attack another clan, and not


    expect any consequences? Oh.... except for bg who decide to attack us for no real reason in


    Tohoku and then invade Casius.... (we have screens of OP taunting us on SERVER WIDE CHAT


    that we have "Lost control of Casius"... .....Taunting us, the neutral server admin;


    invading our system... But still he refused to actually declare war. He was trying get us to


    however, by provoking us. lol he seemed pissed when we ignored it. "There's beer in the


    fridge, enjoy".


    There's no disputing those facts ppl, everyone online saturday saw


    that...... several ppl screened it.


    Only in this little weird world here is this a


    "bad" decision to declare war on dc... Its just with only a few clans left here in CF (cause


    bg's attitude has run off several...), ppl here dont see clanwar much so they dont


    understand that. So they somehow equate clanwar with bombings, killings and real-world


    violence. Since they know im from america, they somehow seem to equate me to George Bush,


    lol... I assure u i dont like the guy either, AND NO ONE is actually injured in these


    wars, lol.


    So here's some more of the lies they have been spreading about me, and im


    getting damn sick of it:


    1. "That jib is trying to destroy the server with his


    wars."


    All we want to do is protect OURSELVES from being destroyed.. We remember the


    dirty crap from last time, yes... and we know what to expect if we dare defy bg in anything,


    it seems. What BG_Wavey refuses to show u or admit is the preceeding frame of the screens


    shots.... Where i promise to defent ourselves against the bg's attacks... Like i have said


    many times to many ppl. So i was telling him what would happen * IF * bg made war on us. So


    he twisted it out of context, then says i am trying to destroy the whole server.... lol.




    But never mind, he is COMPLETELY discredited and exposed as a shill and a fake now


    because of the AngelEye thing, see below.... hehehe


    2. "Yeah jib is ruining the fun


    for us all"


    How is that, again? Unless u are a mercenary who attacks us, we wont ruin


    your day lol... There is no reason for the average freelancer to worry. We taxed before


    the war, and we are too busy to now, mostly, lol.... If u are bothered by the poisoned


    attitude in this forum, well i will stop replying when ppl stop attacking me. I think when u


    consider the magnitude of the attacks and lies, i have a right to respond to them.




    3. "Hey that jib is abusing 14 year old girls."


    ..HEHEHEHE Now we have found


    out that the person AngeEye who attacked me out of the blue is REALLY A MALE IN HIS


    20's. [SIZE=3]R O F L[/SIZE] ....... there to deliberatly


    provoke me, Why would they say that, then?.... WHY WOULD THEY LIE ABOUT ME? By the way..


    The incident happened 1 day before the war started.. think about it !!!


    4. "That


    bad person jib is a hater"


    I dont hate anyone on the server, even nitro for all the


    dirty stuff he had pulled on me.... he threatened to BAN me last night again online, still


    dunno the reason really (he was very upset...he really should take a break from this), and


    not OP either. OP is very worthy opponent who "lives for this sh*t" and resorts to tricks


    that i dont like... I disagree with his tactics, and i guess he doesnt like mine. But i dont


    hate him never did even tho i suspect he would gladly c me in hell lately, lol. And of


    course i respect his talents.


    BTW: They tried to say all the same things about me


    last time during the Chaos-bg war.... Anyone remember that? After the war ALL the personal


    attacks stopped.... i was made Serverpolice, and listed on Lancer Reactor as being part of


    the Mod Team... Although i am not a modder at all, Op was being generous by acknolodging the


    other things i have done for the server. For awhile everything was rosey, lol.... until


    Chaos started to grow in strength.


    These forum wars get dirty and smelly...... I


    expect some of that. But this AngelEye thing... Way over the line. Funny, tho actually. If


    they could have said it was their grandmother in a wheel chair and get away with it, they


    would have, lol. Well u got caught this time LOL.... i want ppl to start thinking about it:


    Why would they do that?


    In the last war OP told Chaos' allies to stay out of the


    war, he threatened them over it, actually... Said he would ban anyone who helped us ..


    These were ppl from the server (DC and Fangs), not intruders.... Now, he interferes against


    Chaos in our war against dc..... And somehow we are the bad guys in this. That is the clear


    double-standard from "bg-leader-and-admin" that we dont like, and have the right to complain


    about.

    And lastly, there was a tacit admittal yesterday by op that nitro on bg side


    and whomever it was on the dc side didnt care if Chaos declared war on dc, that it was


    factored into the plan for the contract - alliance in the sense that it was a possibility


    that was looked at but ignored.... So they are as much as fault for the war as Chaos is.




    U see the most important part of their plan is to discredit me personally, make me


    look "out of control", a "hater", a "warmongerer"


    [SIZE=3]... That way the facts are


    not examined closely. [/SIZE]


    I think u ppl are smarter than that.

  • i never said that i dont care... i just said that i expected things to happen... i expect


    many things to happen and prepared everything possible to come out of such a


    situation


    and i say it again... it has nothing to do with the war it only has


    something to do with roleplay and the fact that the DCs are mercs now


    we have not


    pushed the war ... we didnt declare it... we also didnt enter it
    what if we wouldnt have


    paid DC to keep s19 clean? what if we would have done this job of our own and then a DC


    would have taken sides in s19 coz he is our friend... wouldnt you have started the war


    against DC too?
    another option would have been that if BG attacks chaos in S19 then you


    would have started a war with BG... and then DC would have tried to join this war on BGs


    side
    one of the last options is to pay DC coz they are mercs to keep sigma19 clean coz


    its exactly what mercs do and chaos would have accepted it as the roleplay which it


    is


    but as we already know this didnt happen


    the BG leaders do their decisions


    very carefully and not over night like others... we get our information... we discuss


    options... and see which chances we have... and even before we make a decision we prepare


    for the consequences
    unlike other leaders we dont make decision coz we are pissed about


    some1 and we also think about the consequences for the community but for sure there will


    never be a "we dont care"


    Jib i really have enough spreading more lies about me and


    my friends
    i never threated some1 that i would ban him at the last war not the fangs and


    not DC
    i took them to a private chat to ask them to stay out of everything


    most of


    the other things you have posted at the last thread are also not true like ur endless


    accusations
    if i see such a shit just one more time on my forum ill make sure that this


    will never happen again and if i will have to close the server coz of this then it will be


    this way


    i try to be nice and calm down the situation... explain the facts and those


    other guys here seem to do anything to destroy this community... fine if that is what you


    want then you can have it
    then you can go to your friends from WP and phx and do ur shit


    there


    and for sure ill leave a present for the lancers community

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  • Jib, you are warmonger, since you in the name of Chaos declared war against the BG.

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    It's just a game, and it will always remain a game

  • We never declared war against BG (...where did that come from o_O?).


    Well


    until u get a change in ur marching orders, i c the attacks continue, lol. See above post


    that nitro doesnt want u to read for details.
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    A:


    "You are blue!"


    B: "no, im red."


    A: "No u are definately blue!"


    B: "No,


    im red."


    A: "NO NO NO U ARE BLUE!"


    B: "Heres a pic of me, see, i m


    red"


    A: ---


    A: U are Round!!


    B: "Eh.... no, look a the pic again...


    see, i am square"


    A: ---


    A: U are Blue!


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  • lol i don't geddit


    i do i do it shows BG and how they just


    argue about anything and everything


    also OP U BANNED DON ZARDONOE THAT IS NOT FAIR


    AFTER OVER 3000 POSTS!!!!!!!!!


  • Shall i lay it out for you pancake?


    [Chaos]Jibber: BG


    will not attack Chaos in X or any other system, or it will be war



    Meaning that he


    threatens the BG to keep away from the Chaos, or it will be war.
    The comments i have on


    this are:
    1. Childish since Jib wants to deny another legitimate serverclan, the BG,


    their rights to play the role playing game. Rights he is denying DC, also a legitimate


    serverclan. He believes that Chaos is the only serverclan who can follow the rules of the


    role playing game. If someone from outside Chaos makes a remark on this, Jib is hiding


    behind the RPG.
    2. Unprofessional.
    3. Chaos have declared war on BG that day, since we


    killed hundreds of chaos players since that time. No, it is not BG who declared the war, it


    was Chaos who threatened, and declared the war given the threat given earlier.

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    It's just a game, and it will always remain a game

  • OK Op we would also like to calm down the situation.


    I


    would suggest this:


    1> That the dc-Chaos battle event be set quickly, Wolf or Shadow


    should be able to get that done since the leader Dragon cant be on this week. I know theres


    little u can do about that, hopefully we will hear from dc . As u know, the most important


    part of negotiation is meeting both parties' core needs. This appears to be the only way to


    do that.


    2> That there be a cease-fire between Chaos and BG on the server. We won't


    provoke anything, and DC can fight their own battles. After all, as long as the present


    situation continues, dc has no incentive to stop the war, and neither do we.


    3>


    Dunno my head hurts.



    Nitro: Pls stop posting ur meaningless screenies.... That


    was a war warning... not declaring war... That must be done on the forum.. Remember u said


    that in Sig19 at the very start of the war? "Where's it posted, Jib?" (i remember cause i


    had to run offline and go post, lol).


    But thank u for proving that u were trying to


    provoke us to go to war... Now who is the warmonger?


    3a > Maybe nitro shoud stay out


    of this, its become too personal between us and i fear for his health (i actually do).


  • Jib, a warning? That was a


    threat. You don't want the war? Too bad, you declared it yourself.

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  • lol....


    No matter


    what u say u cant "force" me to declare war. Its really silly to try and proves my point


    that u should stay our of this cause u arnt helping the situation any.


    I've said


    several times on this forum and in space (u arnt showing those screens i notice, lol) that


    we wont declare war on bg.