Sig 19 Declared War Zone

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The above is not true op, and u know it.... very little of to has anything

to do with the truth. We pwned dc so bad yesterday... u felt like u had to intervene or lose

face urself. But then that didnt go so well , either.

yeah right jib and the

next thing will be that you have beat us today right? lol
there r ppl which would give

alot to have ur phantasy

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For as long as i have been on this server, bg has

only done one thing... chase noobs out of their system.. or go after ppl pirating trains

(but only if they feel like it, tho..)? Except to delare war on chaos once before of

course.... for no good reason then either. That war almost destroyed the whole server. At

that time, our deciding to stop fighting was the only thing that stopped a much worse

situation from occuring. Then they bragged about beating us... Its amazing how some ppl will

use other's sense of responsibility against them.

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well ehmm what you call

noobs were very often ur own members jib
and yes we were going after ppl pirating

trains... there was no need to hunt pirates just for fun coz we had the asf/csf events where

we killed those pirates... now that we dont have those events anymore we are force to look

somewhere else for those pirates (i hope you will understand that we still need to fill our

killboards ^^)
the last war was started out of good reasons and that those reasons were

true has been confirmed by you (screenshots available)
And yes chaos surrendered... but

the BGs didnt ran around "hey we won the war... chaos surrendered.. bla bla bla"... there

was no reason for doing that

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Remember the 4 guys from Russia a month ago? Bg

wouldnt do anything about them.....They would half-heartedly fight them now and then.. for

fun.. but when they wanted to trade or felt like doing other things, or if they were out in

Sol and too hard to chase, oh well let them alone, ROFL.. Where were u then op and nitro??

What a sham ur "declaration" and "RP" crap is.

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which guys from russia? and

why should i do something against some1 from russia? coz of the country?

O_o

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Why, of all times, did they decide to attack Chaos while we

are in a lawful war with dc... butting into our fights, changing the balanced sides (....AS

OP SAID ABOVE!!) ..?

Why?

1. To "teach Chaos a lesson"... to prove bg is

still the king of the hill.. ur egos wont let u do any other thing, yet to nakedly declare

war makes u look bad.

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you want a lesson? you only need to say it if its so

oh and about our egos... we dont need to taunt after every kill to feel better like

some other guys which invaded tohoku... think about it

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2. To insure their new

ally isnt humilaited (more than they are), which they would be by now completley except for

the underhanded intervention by op's bg . Yeah, op... the server admin who also runs the bg

clan.

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i told you several times to come with facts and not with

accusations.... there is no ally Jib the serverpolice which does the decisions for chaos

even if he is not the leader *blubb*

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3. its quite obvious this has nothing

to do with role play, and never did... its about us refusing to cowtow to them... They had a

plan to weaken us, ruin our morale, by hiring the entire dc clan to fight against us in sig

19 forcing us out when they couldnt do that themselves.... We stopped that plan and delcared

war on dc , the betrayers of trust and allies of our enemies, as our way to insure our own

survival agianst the dirty plan... As we had every right to do. But the bg command's

bloody-minded arrogance cant take ANY one defying them... so this is the result.

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great jib... ur a tactical genious... u stopped our "plan" -> instead of

fighting against DC for just a few days you now have a war... its like some1 wants to

prevent that some1 else burns down a house by burning it down before the other guy will get

the chance.... really clever

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Well.... u wont defeat us, u wont force us to

your will, u can resort to all ur dirty admin tricks that u used last time.... but it wont

prove that bg is still "superior", it only show u are fearful of a ANYONE who opposes u

possibly gaining strength.

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u talk about defeat.... are we at war?... jib you

have played this game with me when i came back friday... i can do the same now... so are we

at war?
no need for me to comment the rest of what you have said coz its pure crap

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With bg's help (and only because of bg's interference), the war will drag

on... because we wont give in, and dc eventually will... Its a shame really, they could have

survived this relitively intact. But now... it will hurt them even more. All because bg

command hates the idea of Chaos winning a legitimate war... And bg wont declare war on chaos

either.. they just attack us when ever they feel like it, today in X, for example. When i

said something to Nitro about that, he said basically "so"? Which goes to show this this is

NOT about role play, but about showing us "who's boss".... lol.

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yeah sure

jib... u still think DC would just say "oh almighty jib forgive us that we have accepted a

job from BG to fullfill our role on this server... we will surrender and accept all ur

conditions that you have dicated to us"
nice dream isnt it? time to wake up for

you
"And bg wont declare war on chaos either" lol that sounds good... flaming around that

we dont want to start a war lol... if you want a war what you posted here does say it...

then declare it and finish this show coz im getting tired of you crying around "oh oh BG

doesnt want to declare war on us..."
and yes jib we attack pirates just like we wish...

coz this is still a RP-server and thats exactly what militaries do

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Pathetic,

really. their brittle egos cant take any competition. Well. it will go on now..... and on,

and on, and on. Because u cant use strength to force free-willed ppl to bend to ur

will.

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free-willed ppl... you mean chaos members with that right?
what

about... lets say... the free will of DC, BG and freelancers?
i mean what should i say

about a guy which dictates such conditions to DC for the surrender even if they are not even

thinking about giving up...

"3aHo3a, PisdeZ, FanaT, and Matros." annoying guys, at last i think most ppl did like i

did, just (try) to ignore them till they get in a serverrule (again) to never see them again

(if continuing with their behaviour). Also there is the thing about ppl that initially

behaves bad but then get its path right, ppl may get a 2nd chance. Missunderstanding lead to

distrust.
I want to point that most of the "everyone noticed" should be quoted as

"everyone got my message pointing that".

I cant understand what is going here really,

looks like the whole issue has its roots from long ago.
I am sorry Jib, but you look what

you accuse, that you have this anger rooted from many time ago and been working on it to

this climax.
Looks like something went wrong on your plans and you are acting quite

wildly now.

Last "war" you fought bravely against superior numbers, I am sure this

was quoted constantly. By your late actions and speechs, i dont think any clan that has the

bad luck to be defeated by yours will get that treatment, but to be humiliated and

ridiculized constantly, thats inmature and has nothing to do with the "honour" that you

speak of.

I got that feeling, and i am sorry bcz i used to think great of you.

This server lockout, with the ping on, but the server

effectively off, seems related to a fl bug in which a system dialog is showed by fl, locking

it till someone presses "ok".
This seem to happen sometimes using the console as nitro

did last night, like he does many times but only very few times the bug arises.
Also

happened in past times with no battles on, and most times when on this part of the world is

very very early morning and working days, with no apparent, console relation.
I am sure

has nothing to do with any mean intention but an infortunate coincidence.
The delay to

bring up the server is obvious, it requires to connect with a remote administrations windows

tool and manually restart all (if not it will show again), well OP did. So i am very

gratefull, bcz if I where he, and doing my bussines sunday night, perhaps it would be way

more long.

Lets talk of compromise let accusations aside for a while.

the server crashed during a try to kick a player from the server which broke the

serverrules
i was contacted by 3 BGs about this topic and asked to restart it... but i

didnt
the server was offline for more than 90 mins

and now jib you can blame me

for not bringing up the server again in time
you can blame me for talking to my gf

instead, using that chance i dont have very often
im not ur slave and i have my private

life so stop ur wild accusations against me and my friends... i really have enough of that

shit

during the last 4 weeks ive been accused being a liar (and not a

single time some1 has ever said where i did lie),

ive been accused to have banned

ppl from the server several times (i have proved that this is not true),

me and my

members have been accused being cheaters (it has been proved that this is not true),

ive been accused that i have send a spy to DC and i have been accused to be a spy

aswell (both has been proved as not true),

ive been accused being a crap RPG-player

in the past (but me and my clan have done more roleplay on the server than all

others),

ive been accused wanting a war with chaos (as everybody can see only chaos

has started a war recently and BG even tried to prevent it),

we have been accused

that we have entered the war alongside DC against chaos (this did never happen)

ive

been accused to abuse my powers as serveradmin (but in fact i only enforced rules which

exist since the creation of this server),

ive been accused to interrupt the server

so chaos cant fight anymore to win this war with DC (but in fact DC was holding their lines

very good and i never have done such a shit),

Nitro has been accused to want that

jib and DC will loose their SP rights (in fact he suggested to remove all SP rights during

the war to prevent an abuse of those powers, something i didnt agree with coz then i (a BG)

would have been the only1 with such powers)

Dragon and the DCs have been accused to

be traitors and allied with BG (something which is not true - they only played their role as

mercs on this server and did nothing wrong),

ive been accused that i should have

dockraped a chaos member in x-3034 (but this guy got killed even before the docking ring

opened itself)

we have been accused being cowards (but we are not those guys which

have to attack 1 DC with 5 chars at once... we are not those guys which spam with missiles

and mines all the time)

... what is the next?
really i have enough of this

shit... you call this honour? u call urself honourful?... a guy which even insults a 14

years old girl on the server... a guy which talks shit about other clans and players on the

server

you really should think about ur definition of honour... coz honour means to

help others (we even helped one of ur members while you had nothing better to do than to

attack a few DCs), honour means to help new players, honour means to fight in a fair way

(during the last 3 days i noticed that even the DCs stay out of fights if their opponent is

low on numbers... thats honour), honour also means to go by the rules, it means not to

insult others and it means to show some style

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Originally posted by Jib
Ok Corp im sure u believe

that.

Why was i the only one booted offline? Not being able to log on is one thing,

possibly caused by the bug u mentioned. But i was simply thrown offline in the middle of our

little argument there in tohoku.. BTW it was right after i said something i am quite sure

nitro didnt like at all (...although that would purty much describe the entire conversation

lol). I was in dock at the time. Then after getting kicked i couldn't log back on for at

least 90 minutes.

Was there a server reset with a long time to re-boot at around

that time? Because the list still showed over 20 ppl online and msn contacts were still

online and fighting. I did try logging into console to see what that said (online or

offline) but was unable to get anything at all from that (i could be removed from console

access now, or maybe u cant access it if another is using it... dunno never tried

before).

Leaving the console up is a possible cause for lag or other problems (....as

nitro is prolly aware), i wonder why he would really need to do that? I also experienced the

"target bug" again yesterday. This is the problem where missiles & hornets wont lock and

just fly into the woods. Another of our guys reported it too. Come to think about it nitro

is usually on at those times i experience it... i wonder if he usually keeps the console

up? I notice nearly all bg's dont use missiles in battles anymore (but may still use for

pvp), so u guys may not ever notice it urselves. But believe me, we do... In our last series

of CSF battles about 3 weeks ago it happened the whole day. This last Saturday i didn't

experience it most of the day but noticed it about the same time as i mentioned on sys chat

that baldwin seemed to be a lag generator, since red lag was coming and going the same

times he was (dunno, yesterday was laggy anyway).

I do know that some bg will often

fire a hornet or other CD at long range to see if it tracks, as a means of testing if this

bug is present. And that this phenomena is not exclusive to v1.52 or maybe even CF (although

we have noticed it much more lately).

Thx for that little piece of info Corp it could

be invaluable to solving a very vexing problem that we have been having.

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Talk

to the hand jib.

I kicked Pan for abusive language. Haven't touched your account

(yet).
Yes I have screenshots of you, and yes, they are all way over the line of

acceptable. All going to be filed at the serveradmin who should take action.

Jib

It happened other times. As other times was discussed.

The server

core got hang, connection thread still working for active connections, some broke bcz the

absolute lag (no server attending message queues) others not, as my self i was there alone

in red lag till i close then was unable to reconect, the server still shows the active

connections of those still waiting alone in red lag, number that steadily decresases as ppl

got tired of wait or fl itself broke the connection if the task you are doing requires

active server response, (undock, etc).

I recall other times when i was kicked or just

as yesterday waited in space. If waiting you try to dock ... you may get out.

It is

just that Jib, please, there is not any conspiracy, well, except that of this Harvard guy,

Willian Gates the 3th, to rule the world

more accusations... he will never stop with that

shit

BG_assistance is a 2 month old char created to help new player supporting them

with money and equipment... it has not been created this weekend... if needed i will post

the file directly to this forum so every1 can see the timestamps

oh and that 14 years

old girl was just an example - you have insulted so many ppl on this server
and just to

let you know her name is lisa and she was extremly upset coz those words were coming from a

SP
dont say i dont care about the players on the server and what happened to

them

i wont comment the other things you have written here coz that is what i already

have explained many times

Talk to the hand jib.

That all you say nitro?

jib i can tell you why DC left CSF
coz they

wanted to do this since months
Dragon asked us several times during the last year if DC

can change sides to ASF... i had to tell him that its not the right time for such a

move

finally DC did this decision now... it is no surprise and i still wonder why you

didnt know about it coz before i left for one week DC announced what they want to

do

DC did nothing wrong accepting a job from BG
they are mercs they have every

right to do this ... they also could have attacked BG if you would have paid enough
it

was just a job which would have been over now if chaos would have started a war

we expected different things to happen (even the

worst case) but came to conclusion that nothing of this would be a real danger

and no

jib there were no talkings about support in case of war and in fact i dont want to do such a

support coz i think that DC will grow stronger fighting