The Void

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Originally posted by Pandora
...whoah, I'm gone

for a couple days and this happens.

oh and everyone will have to excuse my cussing.

sorry bout that.

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WOO-HOO!!
The babe of Crossfire has spoken! [10]

hell.....she pwns the CF mod herself

Hehehe, Baldy i love ur new sig (my m8's at work got a kick out of it

too).

Yes Pandora, we are soo glad u have returned so u can solve this dilemma for

us! Yer brilliant plan of calling the void ppl names and spewing vile crap at them will do

the trick, im sure.....

please dont tell me that you guys tried to cancel it? [8]

Damon was just a low skill player
i fought him many times and he

sucks he never was a danger for another player
chemo as well

sorry to say this but

its the truth

oh and OPinator you just post what a WP told you to post here... you

believe what they say
but in the end you can ask nearly every member of old starlancer

clans about WP and they will confirm what i have said
you were not there on the zone, you

didn't see what WP did but i was and it's time that everyone out there can read the truth

about those guys

Ok, i´m sorry for posting again in your forum, but I had

to say sumeting.

OP-R8R can u say where u "moved" the posts "call to arms", and

"isn´t it nice"?

Cuz those are the posts that started it all, and it would be nice if

all the CF players that think Strail started this would get a chance to see them, because,

in these posts, u talked a lot of crap about us (not just the noob calling), and STRONGLY

defended Mech´s idea of starting a war on void

I searched the whole forum and used

the search tool using the titles of the posts, and then simply using keyword "void", and

they didn´t show up.

So, OP-R8R, either your search tool doesn´t work or you are

lying.

P.S. I don´t agree with the random insults from players from either side, but

i gets me really mad to see an admin manimulating it´s players to unite his server (maybe

u´re havin problems with players moving away?)

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Originally posted

by Johny_Kat
Ok, i´m sorry for posting again in your forum, but I had to say

sumeting.

OP-R8R can u say where u "moved" the posts "call to arms", and "isn´t it

nice"?

Cuz those are the posts that started it all, and it would be nice if all the

CF players that think Strail started this would get a chance to see them, because, in these

posts, u talked a lot of crap about us (not just the noob calling), and STRONGLY defended

Mech´s idea of starting a war on void

I searched the whole forum and used the search

tool using the titles of the posts, and then simply using keyword "void", and they didn´t

show up.

So, OP-R8R, either your search tool doesn´t work or you are

lying.

P.S. I don´t agree with the random insults from players from either side, but

i gets me really mad to see an admin manimulating it´s players to unite his server (maybe

u´re havin problems with players moving away?)

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The quotes were moved to

the recycle bin, only accessible for administrators and forum moderators. I can access that

section, and I can confirm that those 2 threads are there. But since I didn't moved them

there, I am not the designated person to move them back.

ehh, ok this is

about CF and Void and ex-cf at void in the year 2005 not about who had the biggest salami

back in starlancer days. Everytime there is controversy around here, all of OP's old

enemies come outta the woodwork... Whatever i may think of OP i am turned--off by those

attacks (...whether they may have merit or not) because they always look like weak cry-baby

stuff made by ppl who got beat 3 yrs ago and never got over it... fer further details see

Baldwin's new sig, lol.

Anyone who is doing alot of things and who is in the public

eye, like admins of popular servers such as Strail and OP, are going to have plenty of

enemies... it goes with the territory. U want to never have enemies? Sit at home never

opening ur mouth, and dont try to change anything or create something.

now lets get

down to details of having a tourney..

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Originally posted by Johny_Kat
Cuz those are the posts that started it

all, and it would be nice if all the CF players that think Strail started this would get a

chance to see them, because, in these posts, u talked a lot of crap about us (not just the

noob calling), and STRONGLY defended Mech´s idea of starting a war on

void

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how unfortunate that you didnt get to read it....not a single Crossfire

player supported Mech.....however, we said IF Pheonix "decided" to invade...that we

would fight them off.....thats it....thats the basic rundown of Mech's Call to Arms.

I did read it baldwin, and u are right. Not one player

supported Mech, only OP-R8R, that´s who i was talkin about, not the players, i should have

made that clear.

Again, I have no problems with the CF players... I never met u, i´m

sure most of u are great people.

It´s just that i am getting the feeling that your

admin is not being honest about the all issue.

Johny... just a moment i first want to reply to this WP shit
then ill explain

everything ok?

Takeo or damon

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i hope you remember one of your last good SL

recruits,
you know about whom i'am talking here?

you shouldnt use the

word good together with Damon and for sure we had much better good SL recruits after him...

it would be an insult for all other pilots

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if not here's a clue he was a

Cadet for almost 6months and kicked everyone except one man... and that was Devil.

maybe you should think about this
"Cadet" and "kicked everyone"
thats not

logical
cadets cant even win against their trainers... if they would be able to do this

they wouldnt be cadets
and the fact that he was cadet for almost 6months must mean that

he was pure crap coz all other cadets went up the ranks after a few weeks
just to give

you a list of recruits that were better and joined

later:
GTF_Covert_Ops
GTF_Warlord_C
GTF_TGS_C
GTF_Razor220_C
GTF_Korn
GTF_

Werewolf
about those im not totally sure if they joined before or after Damon but it was

close to this time:
GTF_Lazio
GTF_rBaron
then we also have a bunch of MoD members

which were damn good pilots:
MoD_Moose
MoD_Skorpion (also known as the ex-leader of

WPs SL-section -> WP_Skorpion_CO)
MoD_Binage (also known as the ex-training officer of WP

-> WP_Binage)
and of course (rBaron, Paladin, DonZardeone, Werewolf which joined MoD and

kicked GTF out of the zone)
long list isnt it?

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i'm talking about

Damon...
i know a lot about your history, you told your old GTF members not to fight WP

and stuff like that cause you said they cheat, but there were always two guys who always

fought!

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maybe you should know a little bit more about this
1. yes i

told them not to fight WP
but like usual they didnt tell you all of the story... only

cadets were not allowed to fight against members of other clans until they were completely

trained... as far as i know from the WP trainers the WP cadets got the same

order
everyone else was allowed to fight members of other clans
hey and i bet they

also didnt tell you about the way they fought... usually they started to argue with other

clans like WP with the intention to start trouble between the clans... now you will ask why

they did something like that right? the answer is quiete simple, they were working for WP

(we knew that at least chemo was working for WP at this time)
well and time has proven it

oh and a last thing about fighting skills of damon and chemo
damon left GTF

after those 6 months together with his uncle "GTF_Hero" - they left in dishonour and tried

to start a new clan... GTF declared war on this new clan and 2 days later Damon and Hero

left the zone coz their ass got kicked and they were to scared to stay... 3 months later

Damon came back and begged me to let him rejoin GTF he said "it was a big mistake to leave,

i dont know why i did this" bla bla
and about half a year later was the end of

GTF.
GTF started a war with my new clan (MoD) and we showed them what real skill is... we

joined their games and killed them "en masse" - the last game that has been fought between

MoD and GTF was a team game.
Team 1:
MoD_XL-R8R
MoD_OP-R8R
Team

2:
GTF_Senior
GTF_Damon
GTF_Chemo
GTF_RealStudio54
GTF_Styraco

so it

was 5 GTF (including chemo and damon) vs 2 MoD
to make it short -> MoD won this fight

10:1 (yeah i got killed one time... but not coz of a GTF... it was coz of a mine from XL

which i didnt see)
after that fight GTF left the starlancer rooms of the MSN Gaming

Zone
so where was Damons skill? if xl wouldnt have killed me it would have been a 10:0

for us
oh btw. i can prove this by screenshots (i always took them - also when i was able

to win against devil)

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Chemo and Damon, and guess what, they NEVER met

an cheating WP, ok you were a good SL trainer BUT you aren't the 2nd best SL pilot, and you

never was eh 2nd best, there were a lot better pilots than you...

sure

they say that there was never a cheating WP coz they are WP now lol
but guess what i just

have found my CD with the old chatlogs and there ive found it... its true that damon

never said something about that WPs are cheating... but chemo said it for sure
to be more

exactly HE was the guy which informed me about jaguar and that this wp cheated
im also

sure that i can find a dozen old SL players on the net which can confirm that neo was a

cheater
and slavik didnt even deny it when we asked him why he is doing all this

bullshit... he didnt even tried to hide it

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moreover the WP's already

visited your server many times and were banned after kicking you and your members.

The only WPs that appeared on the server were Shadow and chemo
With shadow i had

a nice talk in NY and then he departed again (with nice i really mean nice)
and chemo

well... he was on the server and i started to follow him... when i met him in NY i couldnt

do anything but then he went to tau 31 and docked at the Freeport station there when he

noticed that im after him... we had a little talk and after i told him that i will kill him

sooner or later he departed and was never seen again on the server. (what a hero)
yes now

you can say that those guys didnt use the WP tag...
but hey you should know the

serverrules... conclusion:
1. WP have broken serverrules
2. WP needs to fake to

fight
3. WP are cowards that need to hide and attack others from the back
4. Those WP

could have been those guys which were banned coz of cheating
oh and about this

banning... lets make it totally clear now
1. only ppl which have used cheats, or those

which have broken serverrules have been banned
2. everytime when some1 came here to this

forum and said "no i didnt do that" then i took the time to explain why he was banned, i

have posted serverlogs and i have posted screenshots which proved 100% that this guy cheated

or broke serverrules
i even have asked other players about their oppinion about all this

a list of all banned chars on this server and on the previous servers is available... on

this forum are also all threads about those banned players, the screenshots, the logs and

all the other stuff
so if those WP would be man enough to tell us which fake names they

used then we could have a look at them and see if those chars where banned coz of cheating

or coz of other broken rules (well i doubt that they are man enough)

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maybe

you think that u are a good pilot, but everyone who really met you in the old times knows

that you are really good in talking but you never did something.

yes i was

good at talking and i was even better at fighting thats why i was the most dangerous person

for WP... thats why WP lost many members to me
but lets look that the best pilots in SL

(when i was active):
WP_Devil_CO (known as the best shroud pilot - but also known as

cheater now)
SE_Hellfire (good shroud pilot which used the phoenix first - i had 31

fights in total with him and won 18 - and yes i made screenshots everytime)
WP_Spawn (was

able to beat him after my first yeah in SL)
WP_CaptAmerica (was good once but became

crappy... was an easy target at the end)
WP_Slavyk (devils most liked cadet which

always wanted to be better than me... somehow this didnt work -> last fight against slav was

a 10:1 for me - screenshot also available)
Steel (dont know which clan he was - but he

was the best phoenix pilot ive ever seen but he wasnt good enough with a

shroud)
MoD_rBaron (best wolverine pilot - yeah one of my guys - i was the only pilot in

SL which was able to win against him without using missiles, even devil didnt made

that)
UNG_Lancer_SP (killed him and ppl said i should be proud now coz he is the best UNG

O_o)
MoD_XL-R8R (yeah the 2nd admin of the SWAT-Portal also belongs to this list - he is

good enough to make a draw but he had some problems with his aim skill from time to

time)
MoD_OP-R8R (well what should i say... there were not many ppl which where able to

beat the guys above but i belong to them for sure... and i killed them move then anybody

else ^^)

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REMEMBER WP'S DO NOT CHEAT, alles klar chris?! wenn du das nicht

raffst biste selber schuld,

they do you are the only1 who doesnt want to

see it
well finally i want to quote something that has been said on the zone by a WP

"weak mind would believe a WP but there are enough such guys out there" - well this guy was

a very high ranked WP which left the clan a few weeks later

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lol you are really

dumb, i know that you played against damon but you played against him in his first week of

online gaming, and op knows how good he was, damon was able to kick everyone and he got the

closest games with dev so stop talking crap

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you are refering to a game

between damon and devil when damon was still a GTF... maybe it would have been a good idea

of damon if he would have told you more about this fight
Damon was in a shroud... the

best ship in SL (highest speed, reverse thrust, high agility and autoaim)
Devil was in a

predator ... the first ship you get when you start playing SL (kinda slow, no reverse

thrust, medium agility.. well at least not as high has the shrouds)
he still lost against

devil 10:9... but he made a screenshot to prove his heroic "i have a deathstar and you only

an unarmed transport" fight lol
he has sent this screenshot to nearly every GTF
rofl -

damon the skiller... he managed to loose against a predator lol

ohh and damon...

if you want to prove ur skills then come to me
it will be a pleasure to give you

another lesson (maybe i take a predator too)

@all others that were forced to read

this lol - what takeo (OPinator) wrote was from a WP which naturally would try everything to

defend his clan but if you want to know the truth then ask the other guys that are not WP...

many of them are still out there

Jib - well let takeo post this... at least it

shows why all this trouble between CF and void started
and ppl wont post shit about a

serverwar anymore lol

Johny... no i didnt forget you... ill post that stuff as soom

im back from dinner
hungry now

Woth

babe Baldwin

ROFL post it ... and i have one more proof for WP stealing

a forum (which is illegal)

ohh and takeo... 3 things you should know...
1. i was

trainer in SL - this includes that i practice with cadets ... even if that means that i dont

move and they practice unlocked missile shots
2. to be trainer also means to loose some

fights from time to time to keep up the morale (something which I learned from

GTF_Bodyguard) - even devil lost against his cadets so they would feel better
3. the fact

that when he was not in my clan anymore and lost 10:1 or 10:1 while he got more kills when

he was in my clan is just a proof of 1. and 2.
and we should never forget that one single

fight never shows how a war will end (meaning: one lost game is unimportant if you won all

others ^^)

ok and now the promised answer to johny:

ok first

off
we never tried to hide something here... we didnt hide the existence of those

threads... we didnt hide the content of those threads
both threads have been moved to the

recycle bin of this forum coz:
1. they were pointless
2. nobody replied to them

anymore
3. we wanted to stop more ppl thinking about a serverwar
4. at the latest

forum cleanup those threads were rated as "not needed"

but ok... yes i can move them

back but why?`
to start more stupid discussions about a serverwar that is only wanted by

some WP, phoenix or iron or what they are called now
no thx... i think both servers dont

need such a shit
and you will excuse me if i move this thread here to the recycle bin as

well as soon those shitty discussion are over to prevent future trouble between the

servers

now im willing to give you an detailed overview about those 2 threads, i

hope its enough to explain all this shit

i start with the thread "isnt it nice" coz

it was created several weeks ago
the thread was about a clan called phoenix... could be

that they use the name iron fangs again
the origin of this clan was on the crossfire

server but after a clanwar those guys left and tried to destroy the crossfire server by

taking all members to a new server... they failed coz the clans and players here love the

server and the mod... they are friends and very loyal... even the rivals stuck

together
well like i said the plan to damage crossfire didnt work... but somehow their

new server had to close (as far as i know coz of using a mod without permission... dunno

exactly)
now those guys are on void... some of them noticed that it was a mistake and

returned to crossfire and we gave them a 2nd chance
yes it is true that there was also

something written about void and a serverwar
one of those phoenix members which came back

to crossfire had/has a personal problem with a leader of phoenix and coz of this he started

to post something like "lets go to void and kick the shit out of phoenix"
after that the

development went this way "phoenix sux... they are on void so void sux... go there they

wouldnt have a single chance"
then it was time for me to appear on the scene...
coz i

know void and coz there was a discussion about void about 2 months ago i started to post my

oppinion
when i was there i fought several players and i didnt have much problems

there... i noticed that most ppl were sitting doing nothing than chatting... a bunch of

other CF players also had a visit on void and told the same so i said that those guys on

void are kinda unskilled and yes i think i also have said the word "noobs"
if you look at

the correct definition of this word

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The informal term newbie (n00b or noob in

leetspeak is not the same) means a newcomer to a particular corner of cyberspace, such as a

game, newsgroup, or the World Wide Web itself or to an operating system. The word itself is

likely a corruption of new boy, the equivalent figure in real lifeusually observed as a new

arrival in a school and who is, therefore, vulnerable to bullying of various kinds.

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you will see that its not an insult even if many ppl think such a shit (often ppl use

it as an insult even if its not neccessarily meant this way)
but ok lets go on...
yes

i also have put in some comments about the mod on void... i still think that this mod is

very basic compared to other mods... sorry... i mean give me 2 days i and create a mod which

is equal with void (dont take it as offence... you like it and we dont)
well to sum up...

all this started coz of some guys that are now on void and coz of some "misunderstandings"

like Mr. DonZardeone would say now
if you want a war coz of such a shit then i cant

prevent it... but somehow i have the feeling that at least some of you guys can understand

this

now to the 2nd thread "call to arms"
it has been started by an ex-phoenix

member which came back to crossfire (nobody of us has the right to judge about him or his

reasons to start that thread if you ask me... he did it coz he was angry at the phoenix

leader and something like this can happen if your angry)
the first that happened was that

his new clanleader tried to calm down the situation (i think that after the last clanwar he

had he is glad that everything is going on friendly terms now - but nvm)
then it was my

time to post something again
on the thread was something written about a danger from

phoenix and void... so i replied that if we need to fight then we will do that but i will

not agree with a serverwar without the support of the other clanleaders
the DC clan and

the other clans of CF decided not to reply but to support us in the case of war
ergo: no

war if we are not forced to
also the ex-phoenix which started the thread calmed down and

said that he overreacted

well that was everything
as you can see not everything

that started this situation came from CF and not everything came from void
one thing is

clear... not a single player on void was insulted personally on those 2 threads
it was a

partly misunderstanding and partly overreaction
nobody ever has done any harm to your

server or your members

i hope you accept this instead of those threads... you can see

that i didnt left out the facts that leaded to all this (i mean hey most ppl already had the

chance to read that lol) and i told you even more about the backgroud of this crap

(sometimes it helps to understand the situation)

about this phoenix topic... as you

can see this takeo (OPinator) is still here trying to start more shit... the CF guys well at

least those that i know O_o mainly tried to calm down the situation here... they know takeo

good enough to expect such a shit -.-

oh one more thing lol.. has not much to do

with the topic but...

Pandora - darling i like you more and more

Ok then, i remember your posts were a bit harsher then u

describe, but that´s ok...

The only reason I wanted those posts shown, is because i

feel some of the CF players seem to think that Strail started this out of thin air, at least

now they know there was other stuff behind it....

So then this is my last post

here.

Best regards to all, and please, everyone... go easy on the

insults.

Cheers

ok bye johny... maybe we will see again in future

under better conditions

hehe i know i said my last

post was my last one on here but all i can say is this.... YESSSS FINALLY! cooporation

sorry hehe had to announce it..... its midnight.... do you know where your brain is? mines

hoped up on caffeine!!!!!

Hmmmmmmm this

was an interesting read, i'm from VOID. All this coulda been settled with a fight, but

whatever, its up to u. Lets just agree that, we will stay on VOID and u can stay on

Crossfire. Guess thats about it.

Ok im glad, i don't like people insulting each other, I just hope we can get along, maybe

one day well have a nice friendly inter-server tournament.