Multi Server Breakdowns

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  • agreed on the most. Want to add that UDP is connectionless and that packages can be send also if one part is missing. Packets are not transmitted in the order they should there is no rule for it with UDP. And the application has to deal with it - and this at least can cause bad server integrity.


    But nor you neither OP can change this. It depends on the UDP architecture.


    And it could be that sol causes these problems as it is very big and maybe near the limit of the system size for FL. To move at limits doesn't do well a long time^^

  • i dont really agree to some points


    1. starlancer was more stable and more lag free in MP even with low connection


    2. limits are there to be broken

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  • ill have a look at it when i have more time
    but i better concentrate more on building a stable cf1.8

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  • ofc, m8. but since u will build 1.8 using the same premises as in 1.7, i guess u could simply use any error info u can get.


    just take a look at the logs for the server and u'll notice if something is going wrong, in a few seconds.

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  • well - those crashed appeared after the latest problems with the update server
    and i asume that they are related to corrupt cf versions which still run the 1.7e patch

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    Originally posted by SWAT_OP-R8R
    and i asume that they are related to corrupt cf versions which still run the 1.7e patch


    I told u that the E patch was buggy! Btw my PC hasn't crashed a single time after i did a clean install w/o the E patch [but the server has... alot]

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  • the e patch was not buggy
    there are just stupid ppl which cant read instructions

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  • ok, no calling names now...


    r u sure those errors r because of ppl 1.7e clients? is there any simple way u can check that, op?


    crashes happened before 1.7e patch too, ofc. but i wasn't too much online to be reporting those... u can ask other players, they will confirm it.


    i'll continue reporting this crashes when i experience them.


    the last crash i experienced (ppl say there were more of them, but i wasn't online) was today at: 2:55 pm gmt

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  • yes im sure that this is the problem
    since no files have been changed... not on the server... not on the client
    the only explaination is that ppl dont get the correct updated coz they didnt follow the instructions correctly

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    they didnt follow the instructions correctly


    could u plz be more precise?

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  • op, i told u already server crashes happened even before 1.7e patch was released...

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  • and i told you that nothing on the server has been changed and since it was running fine for more than 1 year i have to asume that some ppl crash the server by using crappy installations

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  • op, it wasn't running fine, it was crashing before cf1.7e got out too. just ask anybody from server police, if u don't believe me, i wasn't online all the time.


    anyway, another crash report: 10:22 am gmt


    btw, op, it could help if u would name specific files on client installation that could get server down, whatever comes to ur mind 1st. or better not, since that could b misused too... :(

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  • goddamn
    it was running file for more than one year
    it was running for all the day without any crashs
    if you experienced crash as long you are here then someone with corrupted files is crashing it since that time
    but as long i was playing on the server it was running fine
    and it was running fine long after



    the only possible reason for crashs are corrupted client versions
    and since the update that is currently running are exactly those files which i have and since they work perfectly the only possible conclusion is that ppl crash it by running modifies or corrupted files
    and no its not possible to say which files

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  • ok since this issue with the 1.7e patch is mentioned, i use it but i dont see how a installation could be misunderstood (unless you're some retarted lobotomized ape) i even clean installed cf and tried it without 1.7e and timed out twice as much (ill reinstall again just to be sure)


    if i could take a wild guess, a friend and i bought us soulforges on terra (ok earth ill say terra), as we tried to dock with the lanes the server crashed, as we gone one after another without the lanes everything went fine, so i assume it has something to do with the sol/coal lanes and large ships


    hope that observation might help finding the problem

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  • it's the clients... the clients w/ buggy/modified/incorrectly-installed/corrupted files. that's what's crashing the server. my client files are all 120% OK and my game hasn't crashed a single time since i did a clean install a month or so ago...


    btw servercrashes [reported by laserjet]
    today 14:41 gmt
    today 14:48 gmt

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  • so, should we ask ppl to reinstall their clients as a broad policy? do u recommend that, op?


    clans could force that as a directive on their members, and we could all work together to get most of freelancers do it also. i guess newbie will b no trouble, since they freshly installed their clients.


    tell me, op, could these things happen if somebody is using fl patches, like 1.1 or sdks or maybe even unofficial 1.2, 1.3 or 1.4, quickfixes or something alike made to fix usual problems with fl sp? what i mean is - could clients get unnoticeably broken if ppl installed any of these things before cf mod?


    if yes, i have a proposition to ensure these errors don't tag along in the future, for 1.8: including working, correct versions of files distributed in usually used fix packages, like those mentioned up, into cf installation, even if cf doesn't change those files from originals. it will not make mod file much bigger, but it would ensure that even ppl who think they should use fixes before applying mods get their copies adequate.

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  • another crash 15:57 gmt


    *edit*
    another crash 16:26 gmt

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  • crash: 9:10am gmt
    sol run active, one player was in sol, six players present total

    We sit together,
    The mountain and I,
    Until only the mountain remains.

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