Ever though of time travel paradoxes?

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  • Here is something wich drives me crazy: assuming you have a 2-way time machine(fully functional), and you're going to the past, where in that specific time in the past the past-you were there(presuming you've never seen anything that had to do with a time traveler before), then how is it possible, presuming the time traveler-you DO meet the past-you?


    The problem is: if you haven't seen in the past the future-you realtive to the past, then if you go to the past and meet you past-self, then it is likely you create ANOTHER reality in wich you enter as soon as you get there(unless you have the ability to be phased-out of the universe, i.e you affect 100% nothing) in the past, and you can never return to YOUR timeline.


    That might be the answer, another reality.


    Think of THIS: you're in a time traveling Car, in a race(a Drag race or a realitivly straight sprint race with no traffic in an urban terrain).
    after a minute or so you plan on tricking the other racers by being at your EXACT position 10 seconds earlier.


    PRESUMING that it is impossible to create or enter another timeline, can you do the time travel presuming you HAVEN'T seen a copy of your car and you inside it?

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  • yes according to my memoirs I will be thinking of them next week

    All those moments will be lost in time , like tears in rain . Time to die.

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    Originally posted by Aukmune
    yes according to my memoirs I will be thinking of them next week


    that seems to be the top answer

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    Originally posted by Aukmune
    yes according to my memoirs I will be thinking of them next week


    yep, we have been talking about this in about 2 years. also i promised that i wouldn't have posted before you this time^^


    to enigma: i told u the answer when we met next month... ;)

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  • Typical... :O
    jk, I think that it WAS a headache to read it...


    Oh well...

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  • well, there are aswell 3 other possible theories:


    a) once the future_me met the past-me, they can see and hear each other, aswell see themselves, but they aint alowed to touch themselves. reason: the same material cant be on the same place at the same place .. following thing would be that future-me and past-me vanish from the universe and end up in nowhere dimension


    b) another theory would be that once the future-me comes to the past, the future-me enters past-me body and take his mind over (something like that). hm, betetr said, the past-me wouldnt be alive anymore and he would be replaced by the future-me, and future-me would be trapped in the past in my past-me body


    c) in the future future-me knows what happened in the past with the past-me .. but once future-me return to past to met past-me , he couldnt reutn to his real time . reason: in the past the past-me doesnt know what will happen in the future with future-me and yb that future-me wouldnt know which dimension (or better said - time) is his time ... he maybe knew what happened in the past, but as soon as he left his present time, he doesnt know anymore what is happening in his real dimension and by this he cant return to a time he doesnt know a thing about ....

  • I would say before we start breaking our heads over such theories, we should built a time machine. And if we have finished than we practically can look what will happen in cases of time travel


    :D

  • Build ? build ? There is no need to build one, you are one, the controls are locked off at birth you just need the right password to access them.

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  • Sure - this sounds like reincarnation for me?!


    Then i will run some brute force function to find the password - i am sure my brain will end up in 100 % working load to find it :D

  • if any brain is working 100% on the process to hack that password, wouldn't that stop some other processes like breathing and not to slobber?^^

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  • I think he means 100% load overall
    Since it's usually 30, or am I wrong?

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  • i have thought about this like 100 times and never got to reasenable end .. but if i`m right them if i would return tu the past it would not chaing enything becouse i was suppost to go to the past and lets say kill samone or save samone ..ofcorse in the eyes of others it would look like my time zoen has wanished and i have to live in a different reality ,but in the mean time from my point of view it would be the exact time i have to be as it is my future wich i was suppost to go (i hope you realy understand what i`m saying O_o ) ok lets make an example ..the year 2035 i creat a time machin and travel to the past to lets say stop the WW1 this would mean theat i possiebly would not exist ..but if i travel in the time line were my past me is existing i could chaing my future to the better ,but only for me and not others couse if i chaing enything other then my live it could totaly chaing the future even if i must admit by chainging enythign in my live i would have to give direct orders to my past me to not chaing my hole future just minnor things and not magor as it would lead agen to a total futur chaing ...hmmmgeez to write it down is much harders to tell it in person :\ well i mostlikly will stop here now befor it gets to big ...probebly i wonts sleep know as i will sink realy about it (sry i`m a big philosof)


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    Originally posted by Gust
    I think he means 100% load overall
    Since it's usually 30, or am I wrong?


    thats probably right, but still: 100% for one process leaves no resource to any other function, does it? ;)



    what i think about time traveling problems (if time travel would be possible, what i actually do not believe at all):
    i would only meet my past-me if i already remember that i have had a visit by future-me. if i do not remember a visit in the past, then - even if i try - something will stop that happen. i could for example break that time machine accidentally right before that journey...^^

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  • Gust and Häger


    both are right :D


    100% of load would lead to that no other process will have the chance to get to busy state ;D


    But i think my brain wont work in single mode; I hope my brain will then work on multiple processes (and rework for these in round robin method): So I hope there will be enough time for the processes "breath" and "heartbeat" lol


    Back to topic:
    A past-me could never remember to have a visit from a future -me because the visit has never be taken place. Until this point the visit as taken place ;D And then everything will change - so travelling back to future and visit your own ego must lead to changes in the future... and any further live processes or? ---> we can discuss about what is going to happen if time travelling is possible about 1000 of posts ;D But we only would know what will happen if we can test it. So is there any one that would like to be a "Time-Travelling-Dummy" ?:D

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    I think he means 100% load overall
    Since it's usually 30, or am I wrong?


    even less
    often ive the feeling that some ppl dont use more than 1%


    but if you test the 100% overload then take a woman coz men cant multitask very well ^^

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  • I know exactly what happens if you try to travel back or forth in time.


    Absolutely nothing.


    I am not joking. If you try to stop a war, war would start.


    I will explain myself more clearly. Your only aim is to stop a war. The Minute you go back in time, you are going to do your utmost best as you already know the date the war started. What will happen is, you will be responsible for starting a war as you will be trying to convince one side not to fight but if they get information that the enemy will attack first; they will launch the First Attack.


    Believe me the result will be the same. The Past or Future will not change no matter what a mortal does.

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  • hmm good thinking well then i go build my self a timemachin ^^ and will wach waht happened or what will happen :D


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    Originally posted by SWAT_OP-R8R


    even less
    often ive the feeling that some ppl dont use more than 1%


    but if you test the 100% overload then take a woman coz men cant multitask very well ^^


    ROFL, your right OP, we should use women for this ;D

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    ROFL, your right OP, we should use women for this ;D


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    I have read this thread over and over and I think my brain is dying!


    I think using the 'present' you helps here....


    Right now, future you appears, and tells YOU what YOU do in 2 years time. 8o
    YOU haven't done it yet, and knowing about it changes that event, because say YOU sat there in shock today 8o , when future you was living today instead of sitting there dumbfounded, future you had, i dunno, gone to the park, met a new friend. :) YOU didn't. :( so now YOUR future is altered, which means future you could not have met that friend either, THAT future you ceases to exist, and now theres another future you. :rolleyes:
    Everytime a future you visits YOU, things change and that future you ceases to exist.
    So maybe, future you COULD visit YOU, to stop YOU taking a particular path, (which chain of events wise would happen as soon as future you appeared). Its a one way ticket backwards for future you.


    Now put yourself in the position of future you.....
    YOU, right now, travel back to visit past you. past you falls off chair in shock and breaks arm. ;( YOU think ' ?( hang on i've never broke my.....' POOOF!!! YOU'RE non existant. and also being future YOU,...YOU know that you were never visited in the past, because if you had been, YOU wouldn't exist to back in the first place ;)


    Go back -->die (cease to exist) --->another future you ---> Go back----->die , go back ----->die, go back ----->die, .......... a continuous loop of non existance?


    Therefore.... what I meant to say in short..... not bloody likely!


    (However, would it be possible for a different person from the future to visit you) ??? ?(;):D