grb why we banned

I make this as clear as possible now.

the last few days i heard about some irregularities and today i was called to the server because of GRB using cheats.

So what was carried to me?

1. The torpedo issue
- GRB members were able to fire torps without any delay (but the FL code contains a delay of 2 seconds on those torps)
- the torpedos were moving faster than normal (even faster than cruise speed -> which has been tested)
- the torpedos were way more agile than normal (which might be a result of their speed)
- there was no warning that they were fired (something i cant explain right now)

2. Ive been told that one of the GRB members was seen with a Ragnarok a few days ago (right now im trying to get a confirmation of this)
as you all know the Ragnarok is located on the nomad base in Styx and there is no way to enter it without being a member of the serverpolice (or using a cheat)

3. Ive also been told about a possible use of a beam weapon (the ioncannon) -> but this is not confirmed yet

4. there were complaints about the hull of some GRB members which seemed to be stronger than usual
so far this is not been proven yet (which does not mean that this couldnt have happened)

5. next thing is the use of bats and bots.... they were not allowed (as stated many times before)
but thats not everything... from what ive heard from the serverpolice they used bats/bots even if they didnt have any in their hold

6. but i dont only judge from what has been told to me... i also experienced weird things like the radar problem
I was 2 k from the docking ring in malta away and ive been watching it while i was talking to find out whats going on
ive seen that the gate opened and closed after a GRB got killed but i never saw a ship coming out of it... for other players it worked fine
GRB chars showed only up when i moved closer than 1k

7. violation of serverrules by having fake chars
(and GRB members have many chars without tags)

i know the players on my server very well .... i know that they dont come with accusations that are not true... and some of them belong to the best fighters in FL
i really have problems not to believe 3 clans and a few freelancers saying the same about GRB

and additionally to this ive checked FLSO and the console for any proofs

i never ban ppl without a very good reason... i think this is a damn good reason
your turn...

NM i edited my post OP got his reason as shown above

I would like to make a small comment on this

First of all u say we are kids while the age of the people here is between 16 and 50. The clans that u fought at planet malta had an average age of 25. So not really 1337 kids who don't like to lose...

2nd of all i strongly believe that the killcount was on our side and u guys recieved heavy losses.

3rd the matter of cheating is not an argument anymore by the screenshot of the IFSO log provided by OP. It is proven and u should take the consequences. Cheating is unacceptable and therefor the ban is more then just

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hello swat.
first you said about the torpedos that are fast. the sunslayer is but the nemesis missle are more fast. so we use more nemesis in the fight. in my ship i have 2 nemesis and 2 sunslayer. but i use the nemesis because are fast.

GRB has 18 chars with clantags... 3 of those chars have nemesis mounted (in total 5 nemesis launchers)
the stats of the nemesis are not that good that they would cause such effects... and we know for sure how nemesis do work

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second you said that some grb memebers was have the rangarok and we go to nomad base. a lot of people will tell you a lot as i am from mars. no member take that thing and also go to that base.

if you say so... all i can say is that i know these ppl very well and they are no liars

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third you said that some people have that guns. i dont know the names of that guns and no member has that thing. as i say dont beleve anything that they tell you. i dont know if there is any gun like that.

there is such a gun but not usuable for normal players... and like i said above... i have no reason not to believe these ppl that have told me about it

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fourth you said about our hull. we have only the class 10 for hull and nothing else.

well i cant proove anything else yet... but that does not mean that it not possible

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five we dont use any bat and bots in the battle. the people that say that there are a lying.

ive got reports that you guys use bats/bots already a few days ago... i even posted on the forum that you better dont do that... and ive told the others on the server to tell you guys to stop with it

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six you said about you randar. today the server has lag and maybe of the lag you have a mistake opinion. i dont know about that.

lag has no influence on radar or the contact lists... and when i scanned your members there was absolutly no lag... and the most confusing thing is that only GRB members were not shown

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seven you said about chars with out tag. yes we do have all tags and yesterday one server polise tell that to us and today make a lot new char with tag. ask the clans that we tell them about permisions. a lot of times

what permission? all i see are accounts of GRB members with fake chars

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also the thing that you have about the ioncross.the 2 ships are freighter the other 4 are battleship and i dont know what is the strange unknown thing you got.

those are not the only GRB chars with error outputs

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my opinion is that many of people that they play here they dont want to lose in battles and also dont want to play for fun.
we are not a small of boys as they are and tell them to close the mouth and dont says bad words to us. i tell you again most of us we are married people with kids.
the other that i tell you i thing most of the people you know and are in the clans beleve them because they pay the server. and some of that people will be destroy your good server.

you should be careful about the way you are talking about others
you talk about them without knowing them... you call them small boys but right now you act like a small boy blaming them

and just to let you know from what i have seen GRBs fighting skill are just average
you think that you are good? tzz... i tell you what is good... a clan that can call itself the 2nd oldest clan in FL... a clan that can say that they didnt loose a single war... a clan that can that they fought for something good and not just for personal fun... a clan which has destroyed or heavily damaged more opponent clans than you might have met in FL yet
THAT IS WHAT I CALL GOOD!!!

and dont tell me whats good for my server... on CF ppl treat each other respect... but from what i have seen GRB didnt do that. I only need to take what is written here on the forum and how you or this pont''*§"...whatever he is called talk about others.
you came to CF and the first thing you guys did was to start a war.... you dont even know what war does mean for the old lancer clans.
You can be glad that you didnt come to BG and declared war on them coz then we would be fighting now till the death of your or my clan like is has been done with several other clans in the past.... and i doubt that BG would loose such a war

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that all for the grb and sorry for my mistakes about my english.
if you like to banned us ok it is your rule. but i hate when people say to me that i am a cheater.and also some kids that they dont know to play foer fun.

im only interested in facts... and they have been layed down here
you should really reconsider the way you are talking about others

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please i am waiting respone about the things i am say to you and also what are you gonna do about banned.

best regards
grb lakis

i tell you what i will do ... i will investigate more on these cheats... to find out their background
but as long i have no reason to believe that all the ppl on the server and the error logs on the GRB are all wrong your clan will stay banned

Well guys i think you all talked too much!If you find any proofs that we cheat posted them here too see the evidence ,cause all you said before are only rumors,nothing specifik and we'll not play anymore on this nice server! :]

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Originally posted by pontios
Well guys i think you all talked too much!If you find any proofs that we cheat posted them here too see the evidence ,cause all you said before are only rumors,nothing specifik and we'll not play anymore on this nice server! :]

I dont wanna be rude but are you blind or something?

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Originally posted by SWAT_OP-R8R
I make this as clear as possible now.

the last few days i heard about some irregularities and today i was called to the server because of GRB using cheats.

So what was carried to me?

1. The torpedo issue
- GRB members were able to fire torps without any delay (but the FL code contains a delay of 2 seconds on those torps)
- the torpedos were moving faster than normal (even faster than cruise speed -> which has been tested)
- the torpedos were way more agile than normal (which might be a result of their speed)
- there was no warning that they were fired (something i cant explain right now)

2. Ive been told that one of the GRB members was seen with a Ragnarok a few days ago (right now im trying to get a confirmation of this)
as you all know the Ragnarok is located on the nomad base in Styx and there is no way to enter it without being a member of the serverpolice (or using a cheat)

3. Ive also been told about a possible use of a beam weapon (the ioncannon) -> but this is not confirmed yet

4. there were complaints about the hull of some GRB members which seemed to be stronger than usual
so far this is not been proven yet (which does not mean that this couldnt have happened)

5. next thing is the use of bats and bots.... they were not allowed (as stated many times before)
but thats not everything... from what ive heard from the serverpolice they used bats/bots even if they didnt have any in their hold

6. but i dont only judge from what has been told to me... i also experienced weird things like the radar problem
I was 2 k from the docking ring in malta away and ive been watching it while i was talking to find out whats going on
ive seen that the gate opened and closed after a GRB got killed but i never saw a ship coming out of it... for other players it worked fine
GRB chars showed only up when i moved closer than 1k

7. violation of serverrules by having fake chars
(and GRB members have many chars without tags)

i know the players on my server very well .... i know that they dont come with accusations that are not true... and some of them belong to the best fighters in FL
i really have problems not to believe 3 clans and a few freelancers saying the same about GRB

and additionally to this ive checked FLSO and the console for any proofs

i never ban ppl without a very good reason... i think this is a damn good reason
your turn...

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And it was not just the ones who pounded you , it was almost the whole server who had problems with your
1 Attitude

2 You thinking you can put your rules on others

3 When one of your friends attacks someone dont try to tell that person to stay out of it when he gets attacked for nothing [12]

4 Killing 1st and taxing after is lame

5 Dont post back because your chinese is very difficult to understand

Just keep on talking but dont talk kaka

i made it easier for them to check

Nice pick you got there but nothing says about cheating,only unknown things and i dont understand what they are and how all are unknown.I'm not convince cause i want something specifik us i told before.

If it is an unknown equipped item to the server ioncross files then it is something not supposed to be used on the mod. If it was something original from CF files then it wouldn't unknown then, huh?

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I read al you say swat. first i would lke people come into here and post if they saw us with that guns and this ship you said. also you post about the ioncross the lakis T IS a train , the thirio is battleship, the kolopaido is battleship, and i thing drakos is also battleship. and you have them 2 times in the ioncross. we fight in alpha with the fighters. also i thing the iocross may have a little mistake about this 3 characters because only one time the battleships have a attack and the r distrot easaly, ask them.

i say this just once
there is no error on ioncross... those ships contain equipment not used on normal FL or crossfire
additionally to this it shows unknown hash codes on GRB files (which should be impossible because every kind of equipment has been added to FLSO by me)

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also some people say that we attack with out a warning. 3 times we have a fight the clan of r attack us.

i never said something about no warning if you attack them... i said "no missile warning" when you fired them

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the other thing if you like to banned us ok np, and i would like someone to post that he found any cheat of us with prove not only with worlds.because he have not cheat and we are clear. all we play freelancer 4 years and we know how to play.

I have played FL even before it was released... i most likely know more about the game than anybody else... about its code... about mods... about servers... the physics... about everything you can imagine but what i have seen on the server yesterday was NOT normal

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the other thing is if we cheat we are not gonna lose never. ask them all i thing they kill us a lot of times in the battles. ask also the trowa i have 1v1 together and beet me 3 times if i was wrong ask him.

in the last 3 years ive met many cheaters... and most of them did loose the fights even with their cheats... in Starlancer the top pilots chalenged known cheaters to kick their asses even if those cheaters used weapons that could kill a ship with just one shot... we still managed to win the fights... so dont tell me something about that loosing means that there is no cheat

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now i want to tell me if we are banned for ever because we have to know that.
and if you say about the bg we dont have attack them then i will tell you that only the r attack us and the pia come with them to the battle.
we dont start a war but only we have some fights for fun. to be more intresting the game. because then we play a singleplayer and make only traiding and not play a multiplayer.
all grb we play in a lot of servers. asgard , void , tegakis , colour, and we know to fight. because some people they saw us good players and the first thing that you telling to you is things that have no prove. only worlds if they say to you.also i want to test your ioncross to others players but i want to tell me the trueth if it has a mistake, because i thing it has.

like i said your fighting skills are just average not more so dont call yourself good or experienced
especially if trowa has killed you (no offence trowa)

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so i am waiting respone about that i say to you and also i want a honest answer about the proves and also the bann.

best regards
GRB LAKIS

u got my answer and the proof... even if i think that again you will ignore it

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HELLO swat again. also i would like to post the hours that we play this caracters lakis T , THIRIO, KOLOPAIDO,INDIANOS, because the lakis t , was made yesterday because my other name was metaforeas lakis , and also the other three was made before 1 day and there are new haracters abd we dont play a lot, and i thing something mistake is about your ioncross. please if you like post in here the hours we play this caracter and also to see all that something wrong is about that. i thing iocross has wrong not you it s not a personal.because yesterday i was make the new caracter laki s T, and i was tranfer money for metaforeas to the lakis T, and someone help me for transer and i thing one LP help me. and i go and buy it and go to sol and take it. and also i to berlin and make 6 transport. see it m8 and post the hours from this 4 caracters tha you found unknown hascode.

thats all for the grbs. i thing you acuse as unfer and we are not a cheaters.

best regards
GRB LAKIS

as hours would be important on this topic
yesterday 3 clans and freelancers told me that you are cheating and today a 4th clan came to me saying the same
you say that its not true? you say all those ppl are liars? and that a proof that has been layed down is wrong and that the admin of this server has bad eyes?
and you say all this after showing even a bad behaviour on this forum

" PoNTios

Well guys i think you all talked too much!If you find any proofs that we cheat posted them here too see the evidence ,cause all you said before are only rumors,nothing specifik and we'll not play anymore on this nice server! "

you cant really expect me to believe you after all this
the discussion here is over

Note: one GRB member got unbanned to the fact that it was prooven that he had nothing to do with this shit

For me nevermine ,but to know these are your talks and these are no proofs .Told you before if you have some specifik proofs post to convice me that I cheated!!Thats all!!but i dont think you post something cause you dont have

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Originally posted by SWAT_OP-R8R

like i said your fighting skills are just average not more so dont call yourself good or experienced
especially if trowa has killed you (no offence trowa)

none taken since u never fought me after i left BG and after i got training from DC_Blade and R_39 so u have no clue what my skills are now :]

trowa. do you want to be tested?

sure why not

i'm not saying i have the skill of someone like Blade but i got better
anyway lets not go to far off topic this is still the thread about GRB