Seagate Momentus XT 2nd Generation Hybrid Solid State Drive?

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  • Since this is about a hard drive I'm putting this in Hardware section but this thread will be a what do you think, review, opinion, question subject. Anything, weather it be a comment,opinion, update info, video, picture, what ever, as long as it surrounds this hard drive.



    So let me begin: :D


    I have been thinking ever since I bought my laptop (which came with a 320 hard drive) that sooner or later I was going to buy a bigger hd and use the 320 for external or backup.
    I was thinking on putting another Seagate HD in my lappy(laptop)when I found a video in Youtube with a review on this SeaGate "HYBRID" HD... I got very interested in it and decided to wait and see if more reviews good or bad came out and to also hope that sooner or later the price would drop to my level of reality. That was the main reason for waiting. :S And that is why this post came to being. ^^


    I can almost taste it but thought I can wait just a little longer(after x-mas/ newyear) in hopes that the price drops yet further....
    1. Does anyone have this HD in there lappy or PC?
    2. If so then how long and what is your opinion?
    3. Anyone heard any negtive feedback on this HD? (I've only found good ratings-sounds to good to be true)
    4. Anyone know of a HD which is better (Statisticaly and not personaly)
    Below I have posted several (some of the latest) clips on the hard drive just in case someone has not heard about this HD.


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  • Velociraptor ftw \m/


    But anyway, the momentus just uses the built in flash memory for caching. It will give you better boot/shut down times and will speed up your overall experience. It's just that you cant use that SSD bit of it. I would say buy it if prices drop. It is definitely worth it if you are using it as a stand alone OS and mass storage drive.

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  • The hybrid version, mixing those 2 technologies limits the SSD power to the physical movement of the disks of the older type of HDD.


    The hybrid HDD is more reliable than the old HDD one, but still breakable at light/power switches off (when the power goes off, or due to some PC error you gotta pull the plug/press the force restart button), and still has all the failures the old HDD have. The reader arms are still mechanic and move arround until breaking, unlike a SSD one.
    The "downside" at SSD, except the price, that thing of a software limit of reads is a "story", because I never seen a CPU or RAM dieing out for working for too long time. Maybe there is such limit, but not in the first 5 years, as long as the warranty holds.


    I have a 250 GB Samsung 840 Pro SSD in my Computer, as space, it is all I need to play every game I want at once (as in having them installed at once). I have an external 2 TB storage (images/SS, videos, downloaded stuff, ISOs, etc), classy and cheap model for storage, having it permanently connected to the PC, it's like having a hybrid, just that the Fast Boot and EVERYTHING the PC does is on purely SSD capacities and speed. When I need something new or that I haven't used in a long time, I take it from the external HDD, which looks just like an internal one.
    There are no problems in putting a SSD and HDD inside the PC, just that I didn't want to buy an internal HDD when having this.
    Now, I wonder if you can mix the SSD with this Hybrid HDD, because if the slower one is supposed to cache the OS files, that will be wrong.


    The SSD has 5 times more writing and reading speed than the 2nd generation hybrid model (a cheaper 256 GB Pro SSD model like mine has a Sequential [not random] writing speed up to 520 MBits/second and 540 MBits/second sequential reading), and not limited to that little cache where half of those 8 Gb are filled with the OS system (because you know how much the main OS files and linked programs that load at the windows start can weight), and he says how the boot files are still not 100 % loaded in the cache. It is just faster by adding a bit of SSD tech, but not the same as pure SSD.


    So in the end:
    The hybrid one is indeed cheaper counting how many GBytes it has, it's what you need if you want big size and feel a bit of the SSD power, but if you want performance and Real reliability, and got the money, the SSD one is worth it.



    For SSD users, CCleaner is even better :D

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  • Velociraptor ftw \m/ ???????????


    anyway @ Michael....Wow fancy words I think I understood half of that :S LOL but I was planning on a normal HDD just because of the storage and because I just have one port.....because of price and the limited size of the SSD .....really the only place or should I say the only time that speed it the issue is at start up and when I open my browser (6 tabs and also skype) And he did say in the video that the SSD saves life a little on hard drive .......just hoped that maybe someone on this forum was using it. now a days you can't believe everything in YouTube...but fellow Gamers in a forum can be a good source of info.thanks for the info :D

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  • The description in the 3rd video, of that guy, he didn't lie. But he only shown the good parts of this hybrid model ,and not the bad ones.


    He made it look awesome, but it's still 5 times slower than a real SSD, but also, 5 times cheaper ( per Gigabyte) ?
    And it can still break as an old HDD one, for having mechanical parts, metals that move so much end up broken, and worse if the power goes off, unplugged or such.



    Even the boot is slower as he said how not 100 % of the Operative System (windows) files are on the SSD part, so some still have to load from the HDD part. And for the browser, that's not included in the boot...


    You say that the only issue was when starting the browser, but a faster HDD/SSD also means faster installing games, activating CF, copying stuff, even playing games is faster, the loading screens, etc.
    Anyway, the old HDD still do their job :D If it's a desktop/table PC, you won't have issues with it getting broken (it usually brokes fast on laptops for being turned and moved while working).




    What Vishu said, velociraptor is that very fast dinosaur, and FTW = For The Win, as in, "this is the fastest HDD" though that's not true :P

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  • well Vishnu and Michael thanks for your feedback....just shows everyone has his own opinion depending on his experience with a hardware or software....if you had a bad experience then of course you will say DON'T BUY IT!!! :D and the same goes if you have always had for example asus and had no problem with it more than likely you would buy a second one when the time comes (i did :D ) well I just bit the bullet and ordered from amazon.....got a 50 euro gift certificate from my daughter for x-mas and I used it to buy the HDD :rolleyes: but it only cost me with tax 57.34 euros :D will keep everyone posted if I made the right call or if I got flushed out into space ^^


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