Crashes...

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    Hey all!
    Been playing on the server for a couple of days now, and I'm impressed! :]


    But recently, a few problems have occured; whenever an NPC dies in my vicinity, either by myself or other NPC's, the game crashes instantly.
    I've been looking around the forum for similar problems, but it seems that no one has addressed such problems..


    I noticed this problem when I got myself a Bullpup Mk.I heavy fighter, and loaded it up with Heavy Flashpoints and an Adv. Debilitator.. Think that it might be the reason for the crashes?


    I've tried disabling 3D sound, but that doesn't seem to work..
    As for the game itself, I did a complete wipe of the FL files, including FLMM, and did a clean install, with no patches or SDK's..



    Hope anyone can help! ?(

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    I've tried disabling 3D sound, but that doesn't seem to work..
    As for the game itself, I did a complete wipe of the FL files, including FLMM, and did a clean install, with no patches or SDK's..


    Hope anyone can help! ?(


    Disabling the 3d sound didnt work or even with disabling the crashes continues?


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    Disabling the 3d sound didnt work or even with disabling the crashes continues?


    I meant that it didn't make a difference.
    I've looked though the guide, but there's nothing useful that addresses my issues.. :(


    I sold the Bullpup in favor for a Valkyrie, to see if it is related to a bug in the ship, but still the same thing happens..
    Tried changing the equipment... same thing.. :(



    I tried killing NPC's with a new character, tough. And it worked like a charm!



    Could it be character corruption?

    Nope it is propably the Adv. Debs you are using. Turn them off and report if it works please(worked for me at least).
    Im was having the same problems and this would proove my theory that the Debilitators are bugged somehow.

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    Nope it is propably the Adv. Debs you are using. Turn them off and report if it works please(worked for me at least).
    Im was having the same problems and this would proove my theory that the Debilitators are bugged somehow.



    You were absolutely right!
    I disabled the Deb during combat, and it worked like a charm!


    I also tried using the Deb for shield killing only, and using the other weapons for the kill itself, but it crashed nonetheless... Looks like even just one shot from the Adv Deb is enough to make the game crash.



    So, I guess that's proof enough that the Adv Debilitator is indeed bugged! Hope this can get sorted in the future..



    Thanks mate! 8)

    probably just a buggy/corrupted install ;)

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    doesnt makes much sense
    the weapon is not different from others
    and if it would b bugged then i dont understand why it does not crash while using the weapon but when the ship explodes

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    doesnt makes much sense
    the weapon is not different from others
    and if it would b bugged then i dont understand why it does not crash while using the weapon but when the ship explodes



    It could have something to do about the modded behavior of the NPC's, maybe?


    If we could try it in PVP combat, we could see if it affects other player deaths as well..


    It is strange, nonetheless..




    @ magnet: I doubt that it is a buggy/corrupt install. The mod wouldn't have worked unless I had a perfectly clean install, as I have.. It could be that it has something to do with my copy of FL being a Ubisoft release... Which was already pre-patched, if I remember correctly..


    I remember having trouble with a mod in the past, though, (Evolutions, 1.28 I think..), due to different version numbers of the Freelancer.exe file.. Could the Ubisoft version have the same issue with Crossfire?

    I was using the Deb from the very first steps i made in CF. The problem accured first when the graphical update was out a few month ago. There is another thread somewhere where I state my problems and i followed every possible suggestion of a solution. I reinstalled Freelancer, redownloaded the mod of course, got myself new drivers, new alternative drivers and so on.
    To expand the description of the bug (whatever it is):
    -When you kill with debs some(!) people will get the same crashes when they are near you
    -It does not matter if you kill NPCs or real players
    -It does not matter which ship you or the other pilot uses
    -If you turn out the Debs everything works well
    (- I could survive those crashes by turning down my effect bar in the options, others were still kicked)

    but that also does make no sense coz the new players dont have the graphic update
    and something else has not been changed... the weapons have not been touched except the dynamic lights

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    Id suggest some others try Debs in a full system. If it is only the 2 of us with the bug we can still use every other weapon

    Why would any1 use Debs if they have Tizs, nomie cannons, classified MK2's, ppcs, cgs and dkas. why are you using debs? :))

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    thats not the question magnet and we still use debs because we can :P


    the test is worth a try... i will test it this evening an post my results ;)

    I have never had a problem with this Debs in nearly 2 years of using them.


    It could be that with certain sound cards there is a prob? However my instincts would be to look at other known issues first but I see you found none. I have seen no effect following the lighting change.


    Daegon, your not alone and it is not unheard of for 1 or 2 players to have the same probs whilst others do not.


    Where was this hapening..ie system. Was it always here or in other locations? I ask as I shall duplicate and see what happens. I also run fraps to catch it on myself or on you. Im sure Huor will hope as well.

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    Where was this hapening..ie system. Was it always here or in other locations? I ask as I shall duplicate and see what happens. I also run fraps to catch it on myself or on you. Im sure Huor will hope as well.



    It happened in pretty much every system I went trough - New York, Texas, Hudson, Hamburg, New Berlin, Sigma 13 and so on, plus a few of the new systems.
    So I don't think it had anything to do with the location.




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    I could survive those crashes by turning down my effect bar in the options, others were still kicked



    If turning down the effects worked, then it is likely that the effects are bugged, isn't it? Maybe altering those could solve the problem, client and server wise.





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    Hell yeah!! :D

    Ok,


    Having the same problem in Altair?


    It is an interesting problem and turning down effects has worked? GFX card problem perhaps or Direct X?


    I was on earlier in Hudson shooting DEB's and had no probs at all.


    Maybe tomoz you will be online and grab me, we can investigate and Ill film and talk face to face. It might help if all see what you say.


    There are so many potential reasons so lets elimate the obvious together first! Then we can bring in the real nerds.....(coughs). It might also help if this is persistant to have a Dx diag doc sent to op. So he has a benchmark.


    It is important to remember that this is not console game and modded so there will be probs.


    PS. Tizona is great alone but there are ocassions on certain ships when Deb is better, such as bullpup. Power consumption is better and effect can be the same. Fire 2 Debs at a BS then a Tiz and see what happens! BUT lets not turn this into a weap thread :)

    I can only approve what Daegon said. It happens in every system. The weird thing is that if other players (more often newbies btw) are near, they eventually crash as well.This should tell us something, im sure, but i cant say what it is ;)