Posts by Jib

OK i will concede that Marc is probably the best in Euro time zone, lol........... Let's

have them on later next time, eh? Some ppl gotta work or a living (hehe im at work now).

Marc vs Merc... will pay to see that one.

"The battle of the vowels"

hmm

ya ok prokiller. ill try to keep the last one of those rulz in mind, lol.

Argos, I afraid u really know very

little about the US. Watching hollywood movies, american tv shows, and your national news

wont give u the whole picture or put it into perspective....

Personally, i drive a

4-cylinder BMW Z-3 roadster that gets 29 mpg, and gets me pussy while doing it lol. I am now

laughing at my neighbers with SUV's cause gas has gone up to $2.80 per gal (100% rise in

about 18 months). The used-car prices of such dinosaurs has now sunk to ridiculous levels,

and no one is buying new ones (.... Capitalism saving the day again lol).

I dont

like the war in iraq either, never agreed with it. I have a brother and a nephew over there

in the Army and i want them back safe and in one piece!

What amazes me is ppl will

look back in history and "forgive"... say things like " german soldiers who fought and died

in WW2 deserve to be honored" .. (sure, maybe i agree in some cases)... But these same ppl

refuse to give any consideration for the US troops there in iraq now... AS IF THERE IS ANY

COMPARISON to what they are trying to do and what the nazis were trying to do! Some even say

hateful things like "the americans should all die for their crimes".

Well no one

better say shit like that around me... as a lawless american I DO have guns for-real and im

a hellova good shot with them. (i would never threaten anyone over the internet, especially

over speach, but say to me in person, and u will pay).

well, its not bad

baldy.

My follow up compromise suggestion was gonna be this: We have "Associate

Members" which join asf or CSF "provisonally" under two conditions: a) they plan to get a

sys within the next 3 months (a lifetime here lol, we are like fruit flies), and b) they

have at least 5 members, which gotta be seen all online together at least once (...our

present csf requirement).

So they gotta leave if they dont get the sys in 3 months

or beg op for an extension, lol. Hes a socialist at heart, so he should understand their not

having any money lol.

Some questions were brought up here that require clarification now,

since the issues were brought up:

1. Tags: The server rule u quoted did not

specifically cover what wavey was complaining about: A person in a clan (with at least one

clan-tagged char) sometimes using another untagged char... like a secret hunting or trading

char. Me and about 50 others who occaisionally use untagged chars would be very surprised

and dismayed to hear that is against the rulz........... Is it? Sounds like a very difficult

rule to enforce.... and such rulz are easily abused by selective enforcement.

2. How

could u possibly not know the other system-less clans were in CSF in the past (sliders, ice

pirates, shadows, iron fangs after they gave up their sys)......? Well nm we know u must

have known since u follow all events around here closely... but i guess u chose not to say

anything until now. So now no clan is allowed into CSF without renting a clansystem..... U

doing this just to get back at me? Cause if so its damn petty.

So now HUNters will

have to be booted-out and n0x told to go away. What purpose does it serve? Ppl who can

afford or want a clan sys will get them anyway CSF or ASF membership or not. Ppl that cant

afford them, are just outta luck then.

LOL

Op to answer ur direct question about

what i know about communism: Ive read Marx, Engalls, and Mao. Studied alot of history about

the 1918 revolution, about the soviets (Communism with a capital "C"), and about he

turbulent years after ww1 in Germany. Also the Socialist movement in the US in the 1930's..

As an idealistic teen i even fancied myself a "Progressive Socialist". In the late 1980's I

traveled to Moscow and Leningrad (St. Petersburg) on business and spent about 3 weeks

(..followed around by secret police the whole time, lol). Also Poland at that time. But no,

i never lived in a socialist state.....

But then i dont need to experience diahryhha

in a wet suit to know i dont want to !!
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I

think my Bavarian friends (all of them thin and in great shape lol) would not be happy with

me for precipitating an argument about them and the east... It's like airing dirty laundry

to them i suspect.

And btw i have an authentic pair of Leiderhosen that i wear

while playing Freelancer. And my hat has that little boar's hair brush in it, too.

So i am the two things u seem to dislike most: American and Bavarian-at-heart LOL.

*buttons a sprig of eidellwise into his lapel*

Well i

personally didnt think it was Grinder cause he probably dont speak a certain language that

Flame was seen using. The guy OP had in Chaos 4 months ago did speak that language i believe

and he hasnt been seen in a long time. Since he already has a history of sneaking into clans

and lieing, he is the top candidate.

We can discuss the matter on msn, Dragon. But i

dont think u were ever kept in the dark about it i told u as soon as i saw u, if u

recall.
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BTW: Since we are on the subject, in an

earlier post OP said he knows who all the R-39 are... Lets see u name then then.

hmm, Sliders (WHO HAD A SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP TO BG) were not required

to have a system.....

What made u change ur mind i wonder? I think it was OP who

listed them as a CSF clan, before i had admin rights.

Dragon, i do agree with u

about all the spewing but i have no other means to defend our rights and good name.... in

this game u must reply aggressively to every challenge, as OP well knows. Public opinion is

the only thing stopping him from doing certain things now.

As for the tags, these

guys are by definition "Ronin" meaning Leaderless Samurai which means they accept no leaders

and so cant wear the Chaos tags. Our solution to that was elegant, but op and the bg felt

too threatened by it and used the server rules to stop it.

So... we will follow the

server rules to the letter and help the R-39 do what it takes to make them a "serverclan",

then i hope u and HUNters will agree to vote them into the CSF (u can assume Chaos votes

"yes", lol). Then once all that is done, this can be put in the past.... And the REAL

fighting begin (CSF/asf battles). If the bg feel outnumbered they should recruit some more

clans into the ASF ; that's not our problem.

Silly

rabbit....

Only the BG have rulz about using un-tagged chars......
Its not a

server rule (well, not 10 mins ago but now who knows??).

No one gives a damn about

what u want wavey. We will tell more about the spy when we feel like it and when it won't

reveal anything on how we knew about it in the first place.

Now go collect some

screenies of ppl swearing online, lol.

Ok... so i wont call it a merger any

more..... forget what i said earlier then, lol...... *flips u the bird*

Internally,

R-39 and Chaos will have our own definition of a relationship which will not be spoken of

outside the clan..... Outwardly, we will be two independant clans for the

moment.

Because i wont fall into the trap u have prepared for us....

Hmm.

Maybe R-39 will rent a clan system then.... Hell i might even help donate for that,

lol...

So ur "plan A" didnt work OP... Back to the drawing board on another way to

provoke us to war so u can supress us before we are ready.

This is summer, most of

our ppl are away and frankly im glad they arent hanging out in front of a puter, lol.. But

fall is coming and they will return.

And maybe u can get all the BG guys to come on

anytime u like... We shall c. What would it take to test that, a jamboree and campout in

Cust, lol?

@Wanky : Do u doubt that OP uses spys in clans?? If u do ur a bigger fool

than ur avitar looks.

No, hell is of their own making and we cant help them there.......

It naive to think that communism would have just stopped trying to grow without a

force to suppress it. Some ppl like OP still seem to think it was a better way..... It's an

opinion that they have a right to. He says that it was the best days of his life, well my

childhood and teen years were my best too... But i bet that if he had grown-up in my

neighberhood it would have been even better for him.

Well thousands of his countrymen

risked their lives to escape from the East, and many brave ppl died trying. Strange that no

ever died trying to escape TO communism......

Golf and boats: In Bavaria i was told

this by several of my friends there. Could it be a Bavarian state law then? If so i didnt

realize it since i have spent accumilated months around Munich area but little time

elsewhere in Germany. To be specific: U needed to take lessons to get the golf licence, so u

wouldnt be too slow or noobish on the course i guess lol. The boats- thing is happening in

the many large lakes near the Tyrol where there are licences and long waiting lists before

u are allowed to have a boat on these lakes, or all lakes in Germany as far as i know. These

are well-known facts there. Maybe not in former east germany, in but Bavaria.

BTW:

My friends there are not so happy to see u as countrymen..... They think that many from the

east are lazy complainers who are not at all appreciative of the many sacrifices the Western

part made for them... More to the point that the massive re-building of the crumbled

infrastucture (...and cleaning of the environmental polutions) is lessening the rest of

Germany's standard of living to much, and ruining the economy. Is that the US's fault too,

lol?

I guess the only good thing for them is that the northern gemans who used to

look down on the Bavarians now dislike the easterners worse, lol. Im telling stories out of

school about the germans internal problems to make a point: U make ur own world... U cant

blame ur shit on the US.

Lol. A Portuges guy dont like what i said about their fucing-up

Africa. Well dont take it personally.

Maybe we should have let those CUBAN COMMUNIST

troups take over cental Africa, yeah that was a good idea...

We had to act there,

AGAIN, cause europeans were AWOL. It was YOUR mess there..... Where was Portugal? Apparently

they washed their hands of the whole bloddy mess.

Again, the blame for every fucing

thing that ever went wrong... Your politions spend their time telling u this... It's a

great tactic cause it diverts u from looking at their own corruption and ineptitude.

I wont tell u anymore about the spy, theres no need to cause those

who know u well know its one of ur favorite tactics. We'll just let u wonder how we knew

about this one...

Wavey: Oh now we are lawless criminals huh? Not obeying the

rules.... Ones that were created here as we speak. ROFL.

@ OP: Look in the "Time to

Get the ASF/CSF Going Again" thread, where i welcomed the HUNter clan to CSF. they were

voted in by the other clans of CSF (Chaos and DC), which was the custom... As we did for

Sliders, Shadows, and Ice Pirates in the past. I did update the Clan listings in CSF

forum.

About the numbers.... BG are primarily Euros... on earlier than we are. EVERY

saturday.. look and u will see 6, 7, 8 BG on and only a few CSF ppl. Now 3 hours later, no

BG at all are on (or maybe one nervous newbie in Cust, lol) and a ton of Chaos and DC..

thats just the time differance. A huge disparity in numbers IS NOT a problem in these

battles... If it EVER did become one, we would do as i know the BG have had to do in the

past when they had too many: Hold ppl out of the fight to keep it fairly even.

We

dont want trouble... But we are not liking u telling us how to run our Clan: AGAIN!! It is

unacceptable to us; as it sure as hell would be to BG if some1 tried to tell them

anything.

U must have known we wouldnt stand for that... So who is the one looking

for trouble??? "The Art of War" indeed.

No i was not refering to Trowa.... He was openly in DC as most

everyone knew.

And like ive told some ppl once before, spamming is NOT appreciated HERE.

Have u noticed that there are over 2100 reads of this thread? Ppl dont come here to

read spam... News and info about the pirate-side of the server mainly (not for my crappy

poetry im sure). Pls post here if u have something to say that others want to hear....

Otherwise go to Off Topic.

U may know who two of the

R-39 are, because of a spy u recently had in the DC ... oh yeah we knew all about it, and

fed him a load of horse-hockey disinformation, LOL. Deny if u like but we got proof who he

was/is (....a person without any honor; to lie and spy IN A GAME).

But u dont know

exactly who the rest of R-39 are. Unless u are reading chat logs....?

The definition

of "serverclan" is of course the key here...

Apparently what ever u want it to be at

the time. Recently the [HUN]ters joined the CSF. Are they a "serverclan" under this

definition? The n0x are considering joining as well; can they? Just what is the definition

then?

These ppl who helped BG yesterday think im acting weird... Hmm never talked to

them before yesterday so i am surprised they have any reference.... For all they know i'm

"weird" like this all the time lol.... That one is a pure load of crap. When i dont spew the

party line, and instead look to my Clan's interests im being "weird" i guess.

So

are u telling us:

A) .... The R-39 gotta wear Chaos tags to fight in CSF battles?

B) ...Or that they cant merge at all with Chaos and still use their own tags?
C)

.... Or are u suggesting that they are "outlaws" breaking server rules just cause they

exist?

I recommend u THINK ABOUT YOUR REPLY. Cause your answer just may well be

unacceptable to us and many others, and from there it's a very dangerous road for us all.

[SIZE=3]YOU WILL NOT[/SIZE]

tell our clans what we can do,

who we can merge with.... u can change the rules to suit u, ban us all (if u are that

incredibly WEAK), but we will merge our clans if we feel like it and there aint a goddamn

thing u can do about it. Yeah: That's a challenge.

Are the 5 or so ppl of R-39

such a threat to the BG? If so bring on the other ppl from off- server..... but understand

that's a very bad precedent.... Just like the precedent of having 3 non-tagged freelancers

fight for the BG in sunday's fights.... U seemed to have no problem with that.

Ok,

since the rules are changing like a kaleidoscope around here whenever the bg's "supremecy"

is challenged even a bit.... Pls tell us all exactly what the R-39 would need to do to fight

in CSF battles.

Dragon, thx for the

comments. I can tell u here, publicly, that there are no (...and never were any) plans for

Chaos or "Chaos/R39" to attack DC.. And the probs between R39 and DC seem to all be sorted

now, thankfully.

I think some loud-mouthed comments made in anger leaked from the

Chaos forum could have been taken out of context here.... Like allot to forums, they can act

as steam valves but the whistle is worse than the bite, lol. Actions are what matter not a

few flame spams.

U have my word that the long history of friendship between our

Clans will continue as long as u wish it to, m8.

As for the CSF, we hope that u

allow ur guys to participate... we all get good pvp training and the battles are fun.

If u still have an issue with it or with my neutrality, allow me to offer to step

down as CSF leader : If that's what it takes to get DC fully engaged in the CSF then Wolf

can take over until the next election for leader in October (he and i could switch

positions).