1. Whatever is going on DC or not is not the R-39 problem they arnt doing anything bad
to DC imo (the only guy they recruited was already quit from DC) and last i heard Trowa was
trying his best to keep the DC clan together and strong... i know this cause we had a
personal disagreement about how to best go about that, my position being that i must remain
neutral in those things. I dont g-a-f what tales op tells about personal conversations
he-said-this-about-u, we arnt a bunch of women gossiping about the neighbors here.
2.
To call chars "fake" assumes they are trying to hide... no one was trying to hide they just
used untagged chars. And in that ill-fated battle there were no untagged R39, Gabriel was
acting as a freelancer hadnt joined R39 at that point. Untagged chars were tolerated here
for many months no one thought there was a problem with it, unless ppl read the shit in this
one forum thread last week, they never would have known it was against the rules, which are
vague. If u took a pol of ppl online right now, 70% will still not know that its against
rules to have a non-clan-tagged char if u belong to a clan... it s a rule most servers dont
have.
3. I have been told that definetly No R39 ppl flamed or taunted in that battle
(i wasnt there personally). If some Chaos or DC taunted and / or reloaded then that is
unfortunate and wrong, but A SEPARATE ISSUE than R-39..... Well it is unfortunate that it
was so one-sided i admit theres no gain or honor to fight such a battle imo. But we in csf
got pwned lots of times and we didnt threaten war over it. and attking BG in Cust is not
against serverules as far as i can imagine... against
ASF/CSF battle rules maybe but
that is a separate issue with different sets of punishments (like "you are forbidden to be
in battles for 3 weeks" or something.. not run off the server for chrissakes).
4. To
lie about making a Paypal is absurd, whytf would they..... I suspect the pay was held up
electronically, and prolly showed up today. OP may remember Saturday that i offered to
personally guarantee the 20E to pay if he didnt get the payment. Its just silly to think
anyone would not pay if they said they would. Since they got the Paypal email receipt, they
assumed u got paid (this can be sent to OP, but i dont think its necissary by now). To call
ppl "Liars" over this is just over the top.
5. The R39 have a right to send a letter
to ppl they personally know if they like, again not against any rule. And btw: They sent the
letter to a very select number of ppl. If they dont want to join, they are left alone from
then on. Basicaly it was just an announcement that are here and ready to fight.
6.
the Private Locked Server was planned to be just that...a place to have meetings and
practice, not to hang out very long cause 5 pl on a server is not much fun anyway.
7. R39 wanted to have CF as their base of operations for temporarilly going to other
servers.. not "take over" this server. All of the ppl like it here and would be loyal to CF
it it were attked by another server... Something not every clan here can say yet. To compete
or fight on other servers, yes... Why not that isnt against any rules either.
Soo... Why is OP so upset about this clan and what it represents:
> Having
good players go compete off-server is something OP has not wanted the BG to do.. I think he
doesnt like to "have dogs playing in the yard when his dog is chained to the porch".
> Having a strong fighting clan is a direct threat to BG. yes sure. but the plan was
to get R-39 into CSF which means the fights are controlled and "friendly". What is so bad
about having a tougher opponent?... Imo it would help the BG to remain stronger, sharper,
and well-trained. After all, all their secret char and other troubles BG has experienced
lately could be attributed to Boredom. The disparity in nubers can be addressed by some more
rules, we have adjested them in the past as needed.
The problem ppl will notice with
almost-banning R-39 (not allowing them to ever be a server clan) is that then the BG
FORFEITS the fights with them! So the R-39's win by default. Think about it...
All
these guys wanna do is fight... PVP and battle is the reason for their existance. They have
agreed and prolly by now have removed all non-tagged chars, they wish to follow the server
rules.
We / R-39 have:
> Agreed not to merge R-39 and Chaos so we didnt break
the rules (damn obscure rules if u ask me)
> Agreed to rent a system so they can be a
Serverclan and join the CSF (... another obscure rule not enforced before...). The money was
paid.
> Agreed to delete non-tagged chars (ANOTHER obscure rule only pulled out
when u wanna get rid of someone)
... After all these hurdles were met: A stone wall.
It is clear whats going on here. Chaos will have to consider this matter carefully, we are
not pleased with the threats and lack of cooperation we are seeing from the admin of this
server, and perhaps we are not a good fit here after all.
