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Serious question: We fought in Sig 19 yesterday and two times i thought i was being fired at when i was still getting out of the station. Usually i wouldn't mind being dockraped too much but in a 2 vs 6 (or 7) situation i thought it kinda unnecessary.
Someone said 5 secs after you see the pilot is enough. Might be, but honestly: Who is checking his watch in a situation like this?
I think the easiest way to make sure you're not dockraping is to wait until your opponent moves.
Other ideas?
It is a problem because some players have been opening fire the moment a ship comes into view, rather than waiting for the opponent to get control of the craft - even after being repeatedly told not to.
Dockraping is called as being unfair.
Dockraping is if you undock a Gate, Station or whatelse because you are in a helpless situation for some seconds, with no chance to defend - if you are docking (not undocking) in a Battle it was your choice to let them blow up your ship - because it´s a retreat.
The best choice is to let your opponent moving - i normaly set a warning shot on his shields and wait them to regenerate again or set a warning shot in the near of him. His/her answer in Guns, CDs or Missiles will be the starting point of my attack then.
tbh If you attack so close to a dock you are a potential dockraper,so dont do it .
The attacker knows the pilot has just launched so should keep his distance until he has a valid target,ie the target moves away .
This doesnt put the attacker at any disadvantage and gives the target a chance to take control.
Also it allows the target to disengage and leave if he wishes.
Repeated dockraping is known as spawnkilling and we dont like that 
It is unadvisable to kill a pilot whilst docking as he should be protected by the dock sequence but can be killed sometimes.
Launching and Docking are covered under the same rules.
QuoteOriginally posted by Wavey
Launching and Docking are covered under the same rules.
Sorry Mate, thats simply wrong.
Launching is covered by rules, docking isn´t - and it would be wrong to do so - because docking while fighting is a retreat - it´s your decision to let the docking pilot flee or take him down.
As Lucy was writing it - it was in a battle - and it´s not to control where battles turn "physical".
The rules cover undocking... for docking it has always been in the players choice how and when he docks.
---> fast dock - you have no chance to kill someone doing fast docks
---> but that does not apply to undocking as there is no fast undock possible.
The simpliest way is - just keep the battles at least 3 - 5 k away from docks 
Or appeal on the players mind to play fair!
Fair? Since when do we have fair? If someone is dockraping, just return the favor until enough people get tired of it, then it will stop. 
Hmmm now i remember this subject comming up once and the response then was that Dock raping during docking or undocking was impossible... as when ur in docking or undocking scene your ship takes no damage....
Very right Slyer. The term was created in vanilla Freelancer.
Now i vote for closing this thread, as there are plenty of answers and this thread might develop into a discussion that is far from Lucys question.
I quite often even wait till my enemy turned into my direction
Daywalker The pilot you attack may not be retreating just docking
If you are fighting the pilot and he then tries to dock while under attack ,that is fine.
If a pilot is attacked when he is docking and not fighting,that is not fine.
There is a difference especially when we bring haulers into it.
Retreat has nothing to do with the rules .
slayer when you are in dock sequence you are supposed to be safe ,doesnt always work.You can kill someone just before the sequence takes over .
The above is my opinion .
Dockrape is not about docking it should be called spawnkilling as that is how we refer to it in the rules
When you launch you can be attacked before you get control of the ship.I was killed twice by Kermit like that a while ago.
To make things quite simple dont attack pilots who are close to docking(unless you are already engaged ) or have just launched.
Or do as Huor suggests
Ill leave it with a qoute from the rules
QuoteNo Spawn Killing You are not allowed to attack players as they undock. Players often have no chance of escape and can be killed repeatedly, which eventually forces them to leave the server. It is considered a flaw in the overall design of Freelancer and anyone engaged in such an activity will be banned on sight.
I think that covers it very clearly
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QuoteOriginally posted by Wavey
I was killed twice by Kermit like that a while ago.
As already told (10 times?) It was one time at the Ring and because you was moving already it wasn´t an undock kill. My CD was hitting you first to prevent you from running again. Reason of attack you had a Bounty. Reason why you are posting this sh.. after two month now in the open section of this forum - dunno - but quite annoying!
Btw. if you was killed by me, why are you still able to post?
Thanks for all the answers. I'm a bit surprised at the range of opinions/definitions expressed here but that probably explains why the issue keeps coming up.
QuoteOriginally posted by Gunny
Fair? Since when do we have fair? If someone is dockraping, just return the favor until enough people get tired of it, then it will stop.
Not exactly what i'd expect from a SP but then again, it actually works. It even works if you're not returning the favor. I remember being dockraped repeatedly at Crete by 4 guys on another server and eventually i decided i let them do it till they get tired. Took them 2 hours, but in the end they left Gamma.
Constantly spamming them with Frank Zappa lyrics helped a lot i think.
I am puzzled is dock raping another term for respawn killing? If so then it is against server rules. Has this rule been abolished? If it has not then why is a SP not unholding the rules?
@ Wavey i was just quoting what was said last time this discussion took place and then it was ok to accept the fact that it was impossible.... unlesss the CF mod has changed in the last 7 months then surely this answere still stands.
@ Daywalker calm down Wavey was just using it as an example not to discredit you.... and lets face it i think we have all been guilty at some point of Dock Raping/ Spawnkilling or whatever you want to call it.
so how to stop this happening? quite simple play nice and treat otheres the same way you want to be treated and if you do decide to spawnkill don't bitch about it when someone does the same back to you or if an SP happens to see it and kicks you from the sever.
I did not accuse Kermit of Dockrape
I said he killed me before I got control ,we discussed it at the time and I said he should wait a bit longer before he attacked as he was only 1500m from me as I launched .
He believed I had fired cds and I hadnt .
I used that as an example of the time it take to get control
It was NOT an accusation
QuoteOriginally posted by lucy in the sky
Thanks for all the answers. I'm a bit surprised at the range of opinions/definitions expressed here but that probably explains why the issue keeps coming up.
Not exactly what i'd expect from a SP but then again, it actually works. It even works if you're not returning the favor.
My answer was in complete satire. However, sometimes you have to let things run their course, otherwise some people " don't get it".
Gunny, i realized it was satire. But i also was forced to find out that for most people you have to give a WARNING: Satire or they won't get it. Heck, a lot of them still don't get it even with the warning.
