Posts by [BC]afGun

It depends on what kind of explosion occurs... Sometimes it's not exactly negative. May be a positive. The burst of activity and creativity. We are not have the Judjmend Day all the time... heh...
But sometimes even the negative explosion can force the events and make some positive results. The AoUCN, for expample.

Well...
We may be neutral... But we are just like a sleeping beast. Or the atomic bomb (Actually, the meaning of our logo). Even in the ready state it's just a bunch of metall and heavy ore. But sometimes it can explode... like not long ago.

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Did u ever think about to become honest police officer or tricky pirate, or a cunning smuggler?

No. And it's not going to happen. We are too neutral and "inert " for this. May be in the future, if we wil have more PvP pilots. But it is doubtful even under these conditions.

First post updated.

1. We are founded a new clan in game World of Tanks. Currently number of clan-players is 5.
2. Another russian clan from WoT with 70 players is currently accepted the AoUCN Treaty for consideration. The results will be announced at a later.
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Also, sad to say, most of our clan members were too tired cause of last holy-war. I hope, the activity will be recovered asap.

>>Battle Command Network<<

Not long ago, our commander have been met with CCCP in their resource center. He expressed his hopes obout of further relations and may be making the united forces. But unortunatley, there are too many obstacles...
"They said that they will not conclude any alliances with anyone becouse they are already are "the union". - The Commander said. - They argue that they are not liking "separatism" that can make the conflict between the allied forces in consequences of the achieving any own goals by each side".
It means, the searches for friends are continues... Anyway, it's a bad news for us that we can not conclude a military alliance with those who should be understand us like no other, and what exactly we want to achieve.

Inner Resourses Rules are added to first post. See in the spoiler with other clan rules.
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Also the Ingame Freelancer (Crossfire) Clan Charter was added. See in the second spoiler in the Charter section.

I just don't know where I can place the such of thread. Well.. If the thread can be moved somewhere else - I'm not against it.

Wel... Let's begin the first newscast of the whole clan life in the games and real life.

[BC]News #1 <30.06.2010>

Table of contents

Clan Life:
1. The end of the sessions - the whole clan is reviving from long sleep.
2. "Winter, spring, summer, fall - I like summer best of all" (c) - The plans of the Members and Clan for summer.
3. The Clan can be founded on the World of Tanks - the WWII Online Tank simulator.
4. The book "Chronicles of Guardian" by [BC]afGun is almost done. Author plans to complete the book by the end of the summer.
5. SCII-mania returned again.

Game [On]Galaxy:

1. The victory is near - Today the several BC fleets have crushed the fleets of the Requiem Clan Leader.
2. Holywar continues or it's just a paranoia? - The member of the top clan have ignored the peaceful relations between the clans and tearing up a personal relationship with BC Founder. He could continue the attacks on a Clan Member any time.
3. The HolyWar BC vs VSI: eye of the storm or they have surrendered?
4. The Alert have failed: little losses suffered but it still hurts.

Game Freelancer:
1. The doubts about posting of agreements and detailed iformation: the HolyWar in Galaxy maked some after-effects.
2. Upсoming new event? - The Founder have expressed willingness to create the Event about Ancients and the Way to the Coalition chapters.
3. The Chronicles still coninue - some members of Creation SubCore suggested to try to develop 2 own clan systems based on the Crossfire and according to the future Chronicles: the Omicron Psi and the LoMS.
4. Problems with recruitment: Some of the Leaders expressed their doubts about usefulness of oficial foundation on the Crossfire.

Clan Life:

1. The end of the sessions - the whole clan is reviving from long sleep.
The session is ending and some members are laready back to life within the Сlan. The old BC member [BC]Happy already began active actions to increase the activity of the entire clan immediately after his return, but there is still a lot of work. Also the returned members are: [BC]Andrew, [BC]Dimitrius and [BC]Vital'ka. The Galaxy Leadership now fully ready to work.
Last Sunday, the Founders and the Inquisition expressed doubts about current level of activity of the clan, and decided to start spending their own activities to raise it. The first results are already have.

2. "Winter, spring, summer, fall - I like summer best of all" (c) - The plans of the Members and Clan for summer.
Many of our comrades have expressed their willingness to begin active military operations on several fronts of the Galaxy. Current level of clan-activity now allows the clan to be on guard our fleets around the clock.
Also, the DKOS, our allies have icreseased their own activity and start to discuss about many existing problems of the Alliance. The main one is improving working between the allied clans together. Not only for sigle operations, but working in case of possible full scale war. The current protection of alliance is in a rather doubtful condition.
Also a proposal have been received to found the another clan in any of the other games by joint efforts of allied clans. The BC founders replied positively but anyone currently don't know what the game exactly would be.

3. The Clan can be founded on the World of Tanks - the WWII Online Tank simulator.
Almost 4 months many of clan members are playing the WoT online game. Several members have proposed the clan foundation here. Some of the Founders still have doubts about it's effectivness but all things are moving to it. If the Clan will be founded on the WoT server - it would be a first clan created by the Gaming Core itself in this decade.

4. The book "Chronicles of Guardian" by [BC]afGun is almost done. Author plans to complete the book by the end of the summer.
The first book of the Cronicles could be done in this summer.
"The CG is the sci-fi book series based on many things what happend with my life or huge number of games, - he wrote, - There is not only one universe, but many of them. And some of them were "invented" by mind and imagination of any rational creature. This is the endless cycle of creation and destruction, becouse all things are dying in the end and all the "new" universes can be born. But all of this have the Center called "The Universe Heart". If this thing will destroyed - all the universes and worlds will die. And the Universe Heart is currently in danger. But there is another thing. The Universe Heart was created by flows of the different energies. And these energies are conists in all the things what we can see or feel. They just flow trough us but we can't deel and especially operate them. These eregies can create the mind, so the such powerful object as the Heart of the Universe has it's own mind. And trying to survive. The UH created the Guardians of the Universe - the creatures with ability of controlling the energy flows. Their purpose is to keep the Balance of energies and prevent the death of single world from the corrupted Balance or something else. Еhey do not interfere with only in the natural course of events even death of the universe. But even their strengh is not enough to fight against that danger. This was a reason to create someone who can protect the UH against the great danger and will, and that one was called the Guardian. But he is to young for now but the time is not waiting. The events are forced by unexpected anomaly called the Worlds Mixing what cause the losses of any borders between the universes and disrupting the whole the foundation of the worlds. The story begins from the death of the Guardian's Inner World..."
Currently the complete I part is available for review in Vkontakte service. Seek the group called "the Cronicles of Guardian"

5. SCII-mania returned again.
Some moths ago the clan was forced to close the project with clan-foundation in that game in case of clan total inactivity including the leadership in that game. But now the activity is raising again and the several games were played in the battle.net. But the High Leadership Council members said that the project would not be renewed as long as the number of regular players will not be enough for the autonomous existence of the clan in this game.

Game [On]Galaxy:

1. The victory is near - Today the several BC fleets have crushed the fleets of the Requiem Clan Leader.
The game membership celebrate! The Fleet of Sunshine battlegroup have defeated the enemy's fleet tonight! Their leader have lost all of the military strengh, so we can send the requests of peace treatment again. But if they reject this, we will forced to turnt they back to the stone age.
Two months ago the BC Leadership have declared war against Requiem. They deliberately attacked our fleets and plundered our resourses even we've warned them many times. Thy suffered heavy losses during the first days of war but this is nothing in comparison to THAT (See the one of the battle logs in the spoiler below). Total losses of the opponent are currently more than 2 billions of uni-res.

2. Holywar continues or it's just a paranoia? - The member of the top clan have ignored the peaceful relations between the clans and tearing up a personal relationship with BC Founder. He could continue the attacks on a Clan Member any time.
One of the members of the top alliance maked several tries to defeat the fleats of one of our clan members. The alliance is friendly for us and this this condition was greatly complicated the work of our and their diplomats both. Someone told that this is just another provocation of our old enemy, like another holywar from another from their member. May be. But the Leadership currently denies that possibilty becouse that member helped us with several fights before, in comparison of previous attackers.

3. The HolyWar BC vs VSI: eye of the storm or they have surrendered?
Almost a 3 moths have passed from their last try to attack us or make another holywar on the official game forum. Unsuccessed, of course. The old enemy have unoficially declared war to destruction against us when we were too weak against them but dared to respond them worthy. Consequently the Beavers - our ally have been totally destroyed and disbanded after trawling ewerywhere and with everything what the enemy could do. The second clan was forced to break the Treatment and left the alliance. But now is another story... Currently we have enough of strengh to destroy many of their bastards who is responsible for the consequences of harassment of our Founder. And we are not forgot about our promises...
There is not any kind of peace, armistice or something else. Only one thing: the Enemy must and will be destroyed. To ashes.

4. The Alert have failed: little losses suffered but it still hurts.
One week ago one of our comrades have suffered a little losses. Even the 7 attendants were online, the opponent have launched a successful attack to the comrade. Subsequently, the clanmember have lost some of the tansports with total value up to 6 million of universal resources. The Battle Command were furious about it. Several training operations are currently planned to prevent any of that stupid losses.

Game Freelancer:

1. The doubts about posting of agreements and detailed iformation: the HolyWar in Galaxy maked some after-effects.
The Leadership Council have expressed the doubts about public posting of the AoUCN Treatment. They said that many of our current operations and relationships are currently top secret becouse of possible enemy's espionage. The fact of spy activity was proved by several cought spies in our academy\clanhall and some of our friendly clans. We can not allow the repeat of similar history as with the Beavers and any further escalation of the conflict just like the official game-forum.
The last decision the Founder will take. But currenlty any of works with translatig and designing of the document are currently paused.

2. Upсoming new event? - The Founder have expressed willingness to create the Event about Ancients and the Way to the Coalition chapters.
The Founder is planning to make another Clan-Event based in RP clan storyline. There is no specific information about what is exactly will be in that event exept from information that the involved pilots will have a long and dangerous journey out of the system Devron through the Solar System to the territory of the Coalition. If someone will bring the "big guns" this journey promises to be very interesting.

3. The Chronicles still coninue - some members of Creation SubCore suggested to try to develop 2 own clan systems based on the Crossfire and according to the future Chronicles: the Omicron Psi and the LoMS.
According to basic clan iformation, the BC is the "Fleet-outcast", the survivors of their homeworld's death in the parallel universe. They are really hate the nomads and know what the aliens really can do. They have over the 15 drednoughts, over the 100 crusers, 1000 fregates and 25000 fighters and bombers and one huge ship classifyed as the "planet cracker". this fleet was designed to intersept, find and destroy the Alliance sleeperships even if their will have the colonies. The fleet was to be launched on the day of defeat of Pluto and the whole Alliance, when the loss of communication with Earth, a huge number of refugees and the remnants of the Alliance fleet as well as the Coalition has forced them to abandon this course. Not just a home - the whole solar system was destroyed by the unknown weapon that caused the explosion the entire star.
As soon as the fleet was about to leave, he was suddenly pulled into an unknown anomaly. The next moment, just restoring the power, the fleet was forced to fight with one of the Nomads fleet, in fact, does not expect the appearance of the fleet in such of the size. The fleet had to regroup, which led to the accidental discovery of one of the Nomads colonies in the same system. The decision was made quickly. Within hours, the entire planet was destroyed by the Planet Cracker's cannon.
Some days later, the jumphole to Sirius has been finaly found. And all of the fleet members were shocked by what they saw - more than 800 years have passed! From here the story begins...

LoMS system is currently just another project - the world from another universe, what would be involved to the story in the future. According to the Chronicles of Guardian, the LoMS or the Land of the Morning Star is the Guardian's dying Inner World, what also is one of the greatest and dangerous artefacts. If the LoMS will present here, the story could be... destructive but epic.

If the project will be supported by the clan members, the story will be shurely leaded by the author of the CG personally. But currently this idea is under detailed design.

4. Problems with recruitment: Some of the Leaders expressed their doubts about usefulness of official foundation on the Crossfire.
The language barrier at the current time is a major problem recruiting people. By the current moment the founder trying to "beat out" the possibility of recruiting in Russian on the forum. But even if it can appear the usual gameplay would still be complicated.
Let us recall that very few people, especially russians are reading the forums, no matter in what language they are. Usually we choose who we want, and if we understand them and accepting their conditions, then we entering the clan. Under these conditions, the most effective recruitment happens only by direct contact. But to identify among the people who speaking in another language the ordinary russian is possible only by shouting in the native language the information they need. Unfortunately, this method is not acceptable under the rules of the server, even in spite of its considerable effectiveness.

This were the BC Translated News. Thanks for reading.

I don't think so. The Alliance Treatment is the InterGame document. Not roleplay.

But if it will not too stand, then why not...

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probably in a new thread?

If you wish then can be. I don't know where I may post these... really huge documents...

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i would love to read you Charta in english

I've sent the request for help with translation to russian members of this commuity here to speed up the process even slightly. But as you can see...

The first post updated.

Translated verions of [BC] Main Rules and General Ingame Rules are added.

See in the spoiler below the clan statistics.

Next expected updates:

1. Ingame Crossfire Clan Charter
2. Inner Resourses Rules
3. The Alliance of United Clans'n'Nations Agreement.

And may be more...

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If you already have clan rules for BC then i would please you to try to translate them to english and present them here

in progress, but 3 moths....
Also there is a Alliance Treatment, but this text is under translation already a half-year.

We will post it here, when it's done. I really hope soon :-\

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1. I don`t care how many ppl you presenting- 4 or 40, on this server approx. 300 fixed players, and everyone wanna know who is he deal with, already told you.

I'm already aswered this querstion. 3 times.

Seek here (first post):

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- Allies (clans in this game): none
- Hostiles (clans in this game): none
- Clanwars (in this game): none
- Standard relations with unknown clans: Neytral

Is this enough?

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. All your probs- university, colledge or else- just your probs

You're telling this to EMERCOM student. It means - for me is no such thing "it's only your problem".
Enough of this.

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if you came here, please follow writen and "unwriten" rules, respect other ppl.

We have someone bothering? Breaking something?
No? So, what's the problem?

If toy don't understand these words - read this and stop tread on me.

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Your relation status "we don`t know what we want from this server" couldn`t be infinite.

If you are don't care about us, so we do aswell. If you can't understand elementary things (even in russian) - I will not punch the wall with my head.
Remember: We can not do everything at once.
You're really need to more patient.

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nothing more than your decision

it's NOT ONLY my decision.

heh...
I repeat this again. We have only set up the flag here. If there is a complaint - I always listen. But not in that tone and not in the forum. Ask these questions in PM next time.

[BC]afGun, out.

Ok. As i promised, now I will translate some of the things that I said in russian not long ago... with some new information.

1. About renting the system
We don't rent any system now, becouse we currently have only a few people here. The clan is just set the flag up. Any further development is another question. So, I hope, as we will grow larger, the Idea of renting system will become more actual. But for sure - now it will be just a waste of money.

2. Foreign policy
We don't know any clan here close enough to make any conclusion about "friend of foe". Standard relation ship with unknown clans is neythral. It means - we are not agressive, but usually we answering to a opening fire with opening fire.
Usually, the main task of clan is the global diplomatic victory (If the game can provide this ability). It means, we have a lot of friends what cause sometimes rarely fighting (except for tournaments or contractual fights). BUT. Our enemies are usually ideological. It means we have a few enemies not here for now, but they are really hate us. Just becouse we did survive... and struk back
Generally speaking - we are good, but only if it is possible. If not - we become very angry.

3. domestic policy
The clan has a complex structure. Inside there is a hybrid policy, outwardly seeming imperialist or even dictate. In fact in different places we have different customs. Somewhere dictatorship where it is needed. Somewhere in complete freedom wherever it is needed and useful.
In war we present a rigid discipline. In the rest - each clan member usually doing what he wants.
That's all I can say for now.

4. War and peace
Declare peace treaty to us is usually more ease than war. Just bcouse we're usually don't declare war to another clan. It must be very serious reason for us to do it. Cause of it, usually the others are declaring the war. But we're hate the long wars. They are boring and tedious. If we see that war will not over soon enough - we are forcing the events to it's end. Good or bad - not important.
The war in which we feel hatred or relations going beyond the game will be considered as HolyWar. I really hope we never see it here.
Peaceful relations also are different. They can be as usual non-aggression pact (written or oral) or a certain type of union (commercial, military, in-game, intergame, etc.). Currently, we have many treaties with other clans in other games, but we are also have the intergame alliance. It means, the others can come here after us.

That is all for now... need some rest

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SWAT Community toolbar Clans Forums Menu, due to the increasing number of unofficial clans, there may appear a new menu with them, separated from the official ones (with a clan tag in the game, for easier member's usage, as them are the ones who own items ,ships, etc, and may be contacted more often.) I will make the changes as soon as I got confirmation of BC and few other situations, including OP's opinion about some other toolbar-related topics.

Sounds good.

Of course we wish to be part of this community. But I've just talked about that somthings can't be done today and now. We must move forward a little to expand some of the features like renting system. For expample - on other game we paying for clan-alert system becouse we have at least 23 people there. But here we have only five. So, I cant predict the thing that will we survive here or not. If not, then there is no reason to expand our possibilities. It will be a waste of time and money, right?
Now the clan just moving through the "familiarity" phase. But if the future will promise, so we will expand.

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I, of course, only accept english answers, as they'll be the only I'll understand

I hope they will... usually I speak in russian only with russians... I mean - If I hear the russian sounds among the english - I will speak in russian with those who just told that on it It's just a natural reflex. I hope you're realize it. But translating the big texts... You better kill me...

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but, do you want another link to appear on the toolbar instead of that one ?

The Alliance link, may be.
http://btlcmd.org.ru/a/index.php

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if you choose that one, as well as PX forum has an intro site with a flash and then leads you to a forum.

We are currently have no portal. All our resourses are currently separated from each one. Sorry...

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Is it the right one ? or you wish another logo appears up there.

The logo you've present is just a head-picture. Usual clan logo is here

hmm... let me think about it... I mean, talk about it with our "artists".

Слушай, я гляже тебе все прямо вынь, да положь, прямо как Хуору.
У нас тут только флаг стоит и парочку наших людей тут мимо пробежало - какоой тут нафиг "чего от нас ждать?", когда мы сами еще понятия не имеем чего ожидать от других и как самим здесь себя вести? У нас - факт, по английски шпрехен зи только большая часть руководства, и те с трудом. Все. Остальных останавливает прийти сюда только факт наличия английского. Отсюда уже вкорне меняется ситуация внешних отношений, потому что в случае мембершипа - подавляющая ее часть в англикйском ни в зуб ногой. Сам представь себе ситуацию, чисто с позиции наличия языкового барьера в индивидуальном порядке. Соклан знает какие у нас с определенными кланами отношщения. К остальным у нас обычно условно нейтральные, в понимании, как "нес не трогают - мы не трогаем", но он не сможет адекватно среагировать в случае если он летает в данный момент один, а к нему кто-то непонятно зачем пристал.
Дай решить в начале эту проблему, а потом уже поговорим о политике. Кроме того, я тут пока еще узнал два-три клана от силы, и впечатления от них сугубо предвзяты, а информация на текущий момент крайне скудна, так как никто пока в привычном для меня языке со мной ею делиться не собирается. И я лично не собираюсь с разбегу ломать неизвестно зачем систему, действующую по меньшей мере не меньше чем ваша, только ради того, что бы утихомирить чью-то параною. У нас черным по белому написано в первом посту "нейтральны", как любые мерки.
хотите узнать о нас по больше - терпите. Проф.переводчиков у нас нет вообще, а когда я тут прямым текстом попросил помощи у кого-нибудь, кто может адекватно быстро перевести мегабайты наших внешних понятий и договоров - отозвался только один, и тот утух едва дошло до дела. А до тех пор, работаю над всей инфой лишь я один. И я, блин, человек, а не автопереводчик. Я и то терпеливей отношуюсь к людям, которым очень тяжело общаться на моем родном языке, пусть даже если пишут безобразно и неграмотно.

По поводу РП отдельный вопрос. С позиции мерка есть границы поведения как коп и как пират, с той разнцией, что нельзя пользоваться их уникальными особенности, как например - грабеж или штраф. В остальном, мерков заказать номинально может кто угодно, что уже реально разграничивает мерка по ситуации, как - выполняет договор с пиратом, значит его можно с ним прировнять. Аналогично и с копом. Притом, никто не может запретить мерку получить определенный профит с грабежа в команде с пиратом, если это записано в условиях договора - разве не так?
Или у вас тут все как "ай лов ю"? Коп, значит дерешься люто и бешено со вселенским злом, а пират, значит не менее сурово портишь жизнь остальным?
ну тогда мы кажись явно не туда попали, потому что в это явно не самое адекватное определение рп как такового. И тогда я начинаю понимать, почему он тут у вас полным ходом летит ко всем бабушкам и дедушкам.
Это я гвоорю с позиции собственного опыта фрилансера. Был не на одном сервере, так что знаю о чем говорю.

В общем. Мы уже уселись, пытаемся прийти в себя после конца года. Усталые, не соображающие, едва глаза прямо смотреть заставляем. Давайте вы не будете на нас сейчас в данынй момент давить, ладно? В противном случае, я вынужден буду закрыть проект и искать другой фриловский сервер. Еще одного беспочвенного и идиотского холивара я не потерплю.

P.S. Можешь перевести сам, можешь и не переводить, но ты явно невовремя завел речь по-русски среди недовольной публики, когда у меня экзамены третий день подряд, и я тут вообще только мимо пробегал.
Сейчас лично мое состояние можно выразить, как "гори все огнем". Через неделю-две мозг очнется, но сейчас я эти трактаты переводить не собираюсь, ибо времени нет.

P.P.S. Извиняюсь, если обидел, или если показалось, что выражаюсь доволньо резко, но за моими плечами порядка 40 человек союза, чего уж там о клане гвоорить. По другому уже не могу. Ответственность не того уровня, что бы думать толкьо сегодняшним днем.

heh...

I didn't new all the specifics of titling and other in firt place. All what I've asked admis is about placing both of russian and english versions of the content. I just coudn't predict all the diffirent ways.

Today, the searching of new members is a big problem cos we cant use our native language in common as a some kind of token 'russian - not russian". So we use the old methods like this.

In this case, we just spoke about of some clan interrelations subject what also can be usefull as an information to another russians. And I did't seen another good reasons to continue this dialog in PM. Especially considering that I would translate all of these my "expressions" for ages...

Sometimes I just CANT speak in englesh correctly to express my point.
Sometimes the other possible future members just CANT speak or understand english at all.

If you disagree with it, then we just couldn't recruit the members here, becouse we can recrut only the russians, becouse of our clan membership and the native language. So the forum thread will be completely useless as the game system chat already is. We NEED this possibility.

So, the question is - can the people speak russian on this topic (not on the whole forum)?

On this topic you can speak in english or russian both.

... You REALLY want what I would have translated whole the text?... not today... sorry...

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You will

So, I did it

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как можно скорее определиться с вашим статусом - RP-

Мы пока не определились вообще на каком мы вообще свете, это к слову.

А по рп - я думал ответ на вопрос уже дан в первом посту: мерки.

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, будут ли наши кланы союзниками

Приличная часть наших межклановых отношений основывается больше на отношениях как таковых, а не рп. Причина - существоание межигрокого союза кланов, в которым мы учавствуем. такой политике рп обычно только мешает наладить толковые и продуктивные отношения.
Так что во всех этих перепитиях еще раобраться в начале надо. Пока что мы отталкиваемся от своего личного тношения к определенным кланам, т.е. у нас нет четкой граудированной шкалы по типу фрила. У нас есть статусы, начиная от кланвара или потенциального врага, заканчивая составом официальном союза AoUCN.
Проще говоря - дедовский принцип. Устаревший, но пока не подводивший. Может фриловский метод и удастся подчерпнуть, но придется тогда интегрировать по всей системе. А у нас, простите, внутренний стандарт - люди плутать начнут. Да и к тому же свои отношения мы обычно на первых полосах не разглашаем. Во всяком случае той открытости которая у кланов обычно наблюдается у нас нет. Мы уже пару раз просто пострадали от нее и решили отказаться. Профессиональная параноя, в общем.

Лично у меня нейтральное отношение как к пиратам так и к копам. Я считаю, что в разных случаях необходимы разные средства. Поэтмоу я могу резко начать вести себя как пират или коп, ансколкьо позволяет рп наемника - зависит от случая.

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если вы хотите, чтобы вас воспринимали серьезно, а не как кланы-однодневки, коих тут много

Не хочу показаться грубым, но нам 10 полных лет, и как-то мы сами предпочитаем решать, что нам делать ,что бы нас воспринимали серьезно. Как правило, те кто не воспринимает нас всерез - допускают фатальную оршибку, потмоу что это делают как правило враги. А врагам говорить о совершаемой ими ошибке - по меньшей мере невежливо. Друзьям же - они сами обычно прекрасно знают кто мы и на что способны. А если не знают, то очень быстро узнаЮт. До остальных нам как правило просто лень доводить свою мысль до разума, если сами они не понимают. В крайнем случае решаем силой. В более кранйем случае есть доктрина Судного Дня, на которую может среагирвоат ькак весь состав клана, так и союза.
В общем гвооря, мы вполне готовы к любым поворотам. А строить что-либо с ноля - это мое любимое занятие. А после меня хоть потоп.

Да и вот еще. Обычно из основанных мной оплотов клана выживаемость менее 25%. Тем не менее, к 2009 году в клане было более 25 игр с нашим присутствием. Прост овсему свое время. Если что-то где-то не получается, за соломинку мы не хватаемся. Только лишняя трата времени и сил.

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арендуйте систему, внесите свои правила транзита/посещения и будет вам счастье

Платить, простите, дохрена бабок за неизвестное пока еще счастье - нет, спасибо. Вот будет устоявшийся мемберский состав, будет лидер, который будет за меня сдесь принимать решения, тогда уже начнем думать. Насколько я слышал, аренда здесь немаленькиая. Мы в галактике на дежурную систему + всякие финтифлюшки бюджета тратим и того меньше. Поэтмоу подумать пока еще есть над чем.
текущие результаты пока -половина клана погрязла в сессиях и годовых отчетах. За сим, аренда системы пока что - лишь деньги на ветер.

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Ну и третье - тренируйтесь драться сами и учите своих рекрутов.

А кошек вы как, завозить будете, или спецзаказом брать придется? (шутка)
У нас треннировку проходят академики. Дальше мы треннируемся по ходу вальса. ("жрать будем там" (с) Суворов)
наша задача не задрачиваться. Наша задача - отдыхать. А тем, кому нравиться быть круче всех, если таковые в клане есть, те треннируются сами и треннируют остальных перед основными боями и держат костяк клана во время войн. Эффективность, учитывая наш принцип развития, вполне адекватная, при должной самоотдаче мемберов. Во всех остальных случаях, я не вижу резона гонять людей до седьмого пота. только игра надоест (по себе сужу).

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. DC структурировались годами, и теперь у нас есть тренировочное крыло для новоприбывших (независимо, опытен он или нет)

У всех с годами появляется академия или что-то похожее. А у кого-то и сразу. Эт отребование не только подготовки, но и безопасности.
У нас академия появилась после 2003-го, когда произошел первый развал, имевший собственные причины. Имеет собственную уникальную структуру и подход. Вроде пока работает.

Но если понадобится помощь с треннировками - я думаю мемберы сами обратятся. Опыт старожилов в этом отношении у нас ценится по-своему.

P.S. переводить не то что бы лень - не в состоянии. Головой уже гвозди забивать можно...

Sorry for our long disappearance... May be it caused by several events in other games, may be because I'm currently the center of clan initiative here - I don't know. Anyway only a week remains to pass all of exams of this ^%#%^&% session for me May be sometime after that but we will return

P.S. hope I will pass the Engish exam tomorrow xD