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well not absolutly true to say that pirates dont stand very long i mean look at LP... they are quiete successful on the serveralso pirate clans had their times of success the only problem is that they did shit to the server and the members of this community the way i see it LP and FALLEN have been playing fair all the time... ive not heard a single complaint about thempersonally i think both clans will have a bright future on CF if they decide to play their role a little bit better